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Ban the Nativity - political correctness gone mad
Dec 5^th, 2015 at 10:18am

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/12/04/federal-judge-bans-schools-live-nativi...

A federal judge has banished the Baby Jesus and the Three Wise Men from an Indiana high school’s Christmas musical.

U.S. District Court Judge Jon DeGuilio, appointed to the bench by President Obama, issued an injunction against Concord Community Schools on Dec. 2

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/12/02/judge-bans-high-school-...

An Indiana public high school will not be allowed to portray a Nativity scene with live performers as part of the 2015 Christmas Spectacular, a federal judge ruled Wednesday.

U.S. District Judge Jon E. Deguilio granted a preliminary injunction in a federal lawsuit against Concord Community Schools, writing in the order that the show "conveys a message of endorsement of religion, or that a particular religious belief is favored or preferred."

"Accordingly, the court finds that the plaintiffs are likely to succeed on the merits on their claim that the inclusion of the living Nativity scene in the show, as currently proposed, violates the Establishment Clause," the judge wrote.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36384 Gender:	Re: Ban the Nativity - political correctness gone mad Reply #1 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 10:19am Good. Keep religion out of schools. Unless it is comparative study of them.
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Reply #2 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 10:27am

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The suit was originally filed with the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Indiana and Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF), a not-for-profit that advocates for the separation of church and state, on behalf of a student who participates in the performing arts program and his father.

Agreed. Religion has no place in state education

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Reply #3 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 10:39am

Maqqa wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

U.S. District Judge Jon E. Deguilio granted a preliminary injunction in a federal lawsuit against Concord Community Schools, writing in the order that the show "conveys a message of endorsement of religion, or that a particular religious belief is favored or preferred."

I don't have a problem with anyone doing religious stuff, as long as they aren't discriminating against other faiths (by not allowing them the same rights), or getting government money for it.

I think the Satanic Temple have the best idea regarding these events though, everywhere one religion is promoted, they apply for equal rights for their religion, much to the hilarious outrage of fundamentalists everywhere.

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Reply #4 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 10:49am

The message is clear IMO....If you want children to learn about religion send them to a private school that teaches about the particular faith that you want your children to be indoctrinated into....If you want your children to get an education without this indoctrination send them to a public school....What is wrong with having choice???

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Reply #5 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 10:51am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 10:49am:

The message is clear IMO....If you want children to learn about religion send them to a private school that teaches about the particular faith that you want your children to be indoctrinated into....If you want your children to get an education without this indoctrination send them to a public school....What is wrong with having choice???

Huh

You mean like happens now..Bloody good idea Wink

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Reply #6 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:07am

aussie100percent wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 10:51am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 10:49am:

The message is clear IMO....If you want children to learn about religion send them to a private school that teaches about the particular faith that you want your children to be indoctrinated into....If you want your children to get an education without this indoctrination send them to a public school....What is wrong with having choice???

Huh

You mean like happens now..Bloody good idea Wink

100% correct....I fail to see what Maqqa is complaining about!!!

Huh

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Reply #7 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:19am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:07am:

100% correct....I fail to see what Maqqa is complaining about!!!

Huh

We are a Judao-Christian society and we celebrate Xmas in remembrance to the birth of Christ

The Nativity is a recreation of the birth of Christ

Schools put these plays together to bring the community together in celebration.

We seem to be putting prayer rooms in then taking out Nativity i.e. inclusive of the minority but then excluding the majority

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Reply #8 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:20am

Maqqa wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:19am:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:07am:

100% correct....I fail to see what Maqqa is complaining about!!!

Huh

We are a Judao-Christian society and we celebrate Xmas in remembrance to the birth of Christ

The Nativity is a recreation of the birth of Christ

Schools put these plays together to bring the community together in celebration.

We seem to be putting prayer rooms in then taking out Nativity i.e. inclusive of the minority but then excluding the majority

No Maqqa. We are a secular society.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Ban the Nativity - political correctness gone mad Reply #9 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:21am Baby Jesus and the Nativity scene has a place......inside the church and at faith based schools, but not in the public school system. Keep public education secular, lest we have mad people blowing the schools up in the name of religion.
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Reply #10 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:22am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:21am:

Baby Jesus and the Nativity scene has a place......inside the church and at faith based schools, but not in the public school system.

Keep public education secular, lest we have mad people blowing the schools up in the name of religion.

So does that apply to all religions in Australia?

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Ban the Nativity - political correctness gone mad Reply #11 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:27am Maqqa wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:19am: We are a Judao-Christian society You would like that to be so, but it's not true. America believes it is (they invented that title for themselves) and if we are the 51st state of America, must we say we are too?
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Reply #12 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:29am

double plus good wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:22am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:21am:

Baby Jesus and the Nativity scene has a place......inside the church and at faith based schools, but not in the public school system.

Keep public education secular, lest we have mad people blowing the schools up in the name of religion.

So does that apply to all religions in Australia?

Fanatics from any religion, I suppose so.

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Reply #13 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:52am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:27am:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:19am:

We are a Judao-Christian society

You would like that to be so, but it's not true.

America believes it is (they invented that title for themselves) and if we are the 51st state of America, must we say we are too?

Yet you don't offer any evidence to back it

I believe the US is close to if not above 70% Christian and in Australia its about 60%

The early days were even higher

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Gnads Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 33085 Gender:	Re: Ban the Nativity - political correctness gone mad Reply #14 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:06pm mothra wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 10:19am: Good. Keep religion out of schools. Unless it is comparative study of them. That's fine by all means so Halal food in the school tuckshops/canteens goes as well .... right?
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