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Jovial Monk

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New form of denialism
Dec 4^th, 2015 at 3:21pm

Needed because too many cranks and fools had joined the denialist crowd and were destroying any rationale it had.

So—existing renewable energy generation is too expensive and windfarms are harmful to health so we should stop deploying solar/wind and do research. I guess the hope is to delay action against AGW for a few more decades, more profit for dinosaur assets.

Such at least is the thesis here:
http://etwasluft.blogspot.com.au/2015/12/innovation-only-climate-inactivism.html

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21599 Gender:	Re: New form of denialism Reply #1 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 3:36pm 'public acceptance of climate science is slowly increasing' That wasn't the story the other day when there was wailing and gashing of teeth over ' opponents of climate change appear to be winning the war of words.'
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: New form of denialism Reply #2 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 7:04pm global warming didn't work, so lets go climate change. Denialists worked too well, so lets start a new group for them and call it......... lol great thread
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: New form of denialism Reply #3 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 7:06pm I guess you are one of those that got fossil fuel interests looking for a new form of denialism.
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Re: New form of denialism
Reply #4 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:24pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 7:06pm:

I guess you are one of those that got fossil fuel interests looking for a new form of denialism.

My interest in fossil fuel is to keep my and my childrens energy bill to a level that is cheap. I don't and will not subscribe to a pseudo science that uses manipulated empirical data and moving goal posts around when their failed models fail again.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: New form of denialism Reply #5 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:51pm progressiveslol wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 7:04pm: global warming didn't work, so lets go climate change. How old do you think the term climate change is?
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: New form of denialism Reply #6 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:59pm Stratos wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:51pm: progressiveslol wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 7:04pm: global warming didn't work, so lets go climate change. How old do you think the term climate change is? Younger than global warming in terms of use by the AGW loons to describe their pseudo science hypothesis.
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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: New form of denialism Reply #7 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 11:16pm progressiveslol wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:59pm: Younger than global warming in terms of use by the AGW loons to describe their pseudo science hypothesis. No, how old specifically. I'm just curious as to why you think such an old term is somehow been a recent addition to the scientific language.
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Re: New form of denialism
Reply #8 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:55am

Stratos wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 11:16pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:59pm:

Younger than global warming in terms of use by the AGW loons to describe their pseudo science hypothesis.

No, how old specifically. I'm just curious as to why you think such an old term is somehow been a recent addition to the scientific language.

He never said it was a recent addition.

Climate change never worked out for the loons so they generalized to cover any scenario and switched to screaming climate change. Which of course the bloody climate changes all the bloody time. The only ones in denial are the retards that have no life and spout this bullsheet.

Gore has made his money out of you retards so he won't be giving a rats ass.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: New form of denialism Reply #9 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:19am I see what the article is getting at. The loonie hippie cranks have by association damaged public perceptions.
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Reply #10 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 5:05am

miketrees wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 1:19am:

I see what the article is getting at.

The loonie hippie cranks have by association damaged public perceptions.

I don’t know about “hippie” but yeah, RWNJs have so degraded the pro–fossil fuel movement attacking the science of AGW that the fossil fuel interests are looking for a new way to delay the move to renewable energy.

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John_Taverner Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2217 Gender:	Re: New form of denialism Reply #11 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 5:57am I have heard of denial, but I don't think it exists
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Re: New form of denialism
Reply #12 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 5:59am

cosanostra wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 12:55am:

Stratos wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 11:16pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:59pm:

Younger than global warming in terms of use by the AGW loons to describe their pseudo science hypothesis.

No, how old specifically. I'm just curious as to why you think such an old term is somehow been a recent addition to the scientific language.

He never said it was a recent addition.

Climate change never worked out for the loons so they generalized to cover any scenario and switched to screaming climate change. Which of course the bloody climate changes all the bloody time. The only ones in denial are the retards that have no life and spout this bullsheet.

Gore has made his money out of you retards so he won't be giving a rats ass.

Sounds like you are "IQ limited".

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Chimp_Logic Gold Member Offline πολιτικός Posts: 4826 Mawson Base Gender:	Re: New form of denialism Reply #13 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:04pm progressiveslol wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 7:04pm: global warming didn't work, so lets go climate change. they're linked, one is the driver, the other is just ONE of the effects don't you remember it may be best if you apologise in writing and then implement a self banishment period of at least 48 hours.
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Re: New form of denialism
Reply #14 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:04pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 7:04pm:

global warming didn't work, so lets go climate change.

they're linked, one is the driver, the other is just ONE of the effects

don't you remember

it may be best if you apologise in writing and then implement a self banishment period of at least 48 hours.

Chimp,
apologise for being a media dupe.

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