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Reply #15 - Nov 30^th, 2015 at 11:29am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 10:13pm:

The above is not important.

Most of the world's ice is in the Antarctic continent &
is about 2 kilometers thick.
If that melted we would be in big trouble but
it is not likely to do so
even in millions of years from now.

Antarctica will never melt: the issue is with rates of change and whether huge populations that live on the coast will need to move en masse.

The Southern Hemisphere is colder than the Northern Hemisphere for multiple reasons. Meaning, the Northern Hemisphere could experience changes that never happen here as the heat more or less stays in the Northern part of the globe.

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Reply #16 - Nov 30^th, 2015 at 11:33am

Maqqa wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 1:06am:

Interesting to note in the last 100 years the ocean rose 15cm to 20cm

Their prediction is 15cm to 95cm in the next 100 years

That's a huge margin of error

So what's my point?

Even on an issue such as sea level there are conflicting information and large margin of errors

So why should I or anyone else be called a "denier" when I question the information available out there??!!

You don't like labels? Cheesy

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Reply #17 - Nov 30^th, 2015 at 11:35am

Maqqa wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 1:33pm:

Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 9:13am:

You will be long dead before the effects are evident. The concern is for your children's children.

The greed of today's planetary denizens is risking the future for their progeny.

And if Australia cuts emissions by 100% - Australia would be stuffed and the planet would still be F#CK3d

So what's the point

No one is asking Australia to cut emissions by 100%

Cheesy

If you think 20 million Australians can tell the world to get bugger** then you fight the war Shocked

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beer Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 274 sydney Gender:	Re: Melting sea ice and water level Reply #18 - Nov 30^th, 2015 at 11:58am If all the ice gets melt, wouldn't the atmosphere be more humid? then desert will become grass land? great!
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Melting sea ice and water level Reply #19 - Nov 30^th, 2015 at 11:59am beer wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 11:58am: If all the ice gets melt, wouldn't the atmosphere be more humid? then desert will become grass land? great! Why would the atmosphere get more humidity?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19952 Gender:	Re: Melting sea ice and water level Reply #20 - Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:04pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 11:59am: Why would the atmosphere get more humidity? Because according to the theory warmer air can retain more water vapour. More water vapour higher humidity.
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Reply #21 - Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:07pm

lee wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 11:59am:

Why would the atmosphere get more humidity?

Because according to the theory warmer air can retain more water vapour. More water vapour higher humidity.

Perhaps, but I doubt this would automatically mean desert areas get more rain. Its more likely high rain areas like the tropics will get more rain.

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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #22 - Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:10pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:07pm:

Perhaps, but I doubt this would automatically mean desert areas get more rain. Its more likely high rain areas like the tropics will get more rain.

Perhaps. But do the deserts need more rain?

'Increased levels of carbon dioxide (CO2) have helped boost green foliage across the world’s arid regions over the past 30 years through a process called CO2 fertilisation, according to CSIRO research. '

http://www.csiro.au/en/News/News-releases/2013/Deserts-greening-from-rising-CO2

Of course greening of the deserts suggest more envirotranspiration.

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Reply #23 - Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:22pm

lee wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:10pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:07pm:

Perhaps, but I doubt this would automatically mean desert areas get more rain. Its more likely high rain areas like the tropics will get more rain.

Perhaps. But do the deserts need more rain?

'Increased levels of carbon dioxide (CO2) have helped boost green foliage across the world’s arid regions over the past 30 years through a process called CO2 fertilisation, according to CSIRO research. '

http://www.csiro.au/en/News/News-releases/2013/Deserts-greening-from-rising-CO2

Of course greening of the deserts suggest more envirotranspiration.

CO2 is not the only limiting factor to plant growth.

- you couldn't sell a fridge at harvey norman buddy Cheesy

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Melting sea ice and water level Reply #24 - Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:26pm beer wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 11:58am: If all the ice gets melt, wouldn't the atmosphere be more humid? then desert will become grass land? great! Surely plants need more than water and sand Ever heard of soil?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19952 Gender:	Re: Melting sea ice and water level Reply #25 - Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:31pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:26pm: Ever heard of soil? So what is the lack of nutrients that prohibit growth?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 19952 Gender:	Re: Melting sea ice and water level Reply #26 - Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:32pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:22pm: CO2 is not the only limiting factor to plant growth. Wink Perhaps you should tell the CSIRO. Explain where they are going wrong.
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Reply #27 - Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:44pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:26pm:

beer wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 11:58am:

If all the ice gets melt, wouldn't the atmosphere be more humid? then desert will become grass land? great! Grin

Surely plants need more than water and sand Grin

Ever heard of soil?

I would not expect a flower just growing out from middle of sand desert with a bucket of water. Event imagine in this way is stupid. Grin

The point is one humidity is higher, means more rains, the borders of desert will move towards itself center. Cheesy

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Melting sea ice and water level Reply #28 - Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:48pm lee wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:31pm: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:26pm: Ever heard of soil? So what is the lack of nutrients that prohibit growth? ...seriously, is that a question?
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Reply #29 - Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:52pm

beer wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:44pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 12:26pm:

beer wrote on Nov 30^th, 2015 at 11:58am:

If all the ice gets melt, wouldn't the atmosphere be more humid? then desert will become grass land? great! Grin

Surely plants need more than water and sand Grin

Ever heard of soil?

I would not expect a flower just growing out from middle of sand desert with a bucket of water. Event imagine in this way is stupid. Grin

The point is one humidity is higher, means more rains, the borders of desert will move towards itself center. Cheesy

Yes, in your dreams that may be true!

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