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Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:49pm
 
President Assad (who is bad) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the Rebels (who are good) started winning.

But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State (who are definitely bad) and some continued to support democracy (who are still good).

So the Americans (who are good) started bombing Islamic State (who are bad) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels (who are good) so they could fight Assad (who is still bad) which was good.

By the way, there is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight IS
(which is a good thing) but the Turkish authorities think they are bad, so we have to say they are bad whilst secretly thinking they're good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter.

Getting back to Syria. President Putin (bad, as he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks including that nice Russian man in London with polonium) has decided to back Assad (who is still bad) by attacking IS (who are also bad) which is sort of a good thing?

But Putin (still bad) thinks the Syrian Rebels (who are good) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans (who are good) who are busy backing and arming the rebels (who are also good).

Now Iran (who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons and bomb Israel are now good) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad (still bad) as are the Russians (bad) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria.

So a Coalition of Assad (still bad) Putin (extra bad) and the Iranians (good, but in a bad sort of way) are going to attack IS (who are bad) which is a good thing, but also the Syrian Rebels (who are good) which is bad.

Now the British (obviously good, except Corbyn who is probably bad) and the Americans (also good) cannot attack Assad (still bad) for fear of upsetting Putin (bad) and Iran (good / bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS (who are super bad).

So Assad (bad) is now probably good, being better than IS (no real choice there) and since Putin and Iran are also fighting IS that may now make them good. America (still good) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr Putin (now good) and that mad ayatollah in Iran (also good) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS (still the only constantly bad group).

To Sunni Muslims, an attack by Shia Muslims (Assad and Iran) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War, and the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as good (doh!).

Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal (might have a point) and hence we will be seen as bad.

So now we have America (now bad) and Britain (also bad) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels (bad) many of whom are looking to IS (good / bad) for support against Assad (now good) who, along with Iran (also good) and Putin (also, now, unbelievably, good ) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started?

I hope that this clears it all up for you.
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Reply #1 - Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:54pm
 
*nyuk nyuk*  Great post.
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Reply #2 - Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:54pm
 
Weigh it up I suppose- Assad or a group that kills or enslaves anybody who isn't a radical Sunni Islamist.
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double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:54pm:
Weigh it up I suppose- Assad or a group that kills or enslaves anybody who isn't a radical Sunni Islamist.


Weigh as much as we like.  Get out, and let the Arabs sort out Arabia, thank you.
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Reply #4 - Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:59pm
 
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:56pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:54pm:
Weigh it up I suppose- Assad or a group that kills or enslaves anybody who isn't a radical Sunni Islamist.


Weigh as much as we like.  Get out, and let the Arabs sort out Arabia, thank you.
So we should sit back while Christians , gays, Shites etc etc are being murdered and a terrorist group that wants us dead gets more powerful to threaten us in the future??
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Reply #5 - Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:05pm
 
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:59pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:56pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:54pm:
Weigh it up I suppose- Assad or a group that kills or enslaves anybody who isn't a radical Sunni Islamist.


Weigh as much as we like.  Get out, and let the Arabs sort out Arabia, thank you.
So we should sit back while Christians , gays, Shites etc etc are being murdered and a terrorist group that wants us dead gets more powerful to threaten us in the future??


Since when was the last time the Arabs tried to invade outside Arabia?  They take a swipe at us now only because we have stuck our unwanted beak into their business in Arabia.  It all boils down to that.
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Reply #6 - Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:08pm
 
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:05pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:59pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:56pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:54pm:
Weigh it up I suppose- Assad or a group that kills or enslaves anybody who isn't a radical Sunni Islamist.


Weigh as much as we like.  Get out, and let the Arabs sort out Arabia, thank you.
So we should sit back while Christians , gays, Shites etc etc are being murdered and a terrorist group that wants us dead gets more powerful to threaten us in the future??


Since when was the last time the Arabs tried to invade outside Arabia?  They take a swipe at us now only because we have stuck our unwanted beak into their business in Arabia.  It all boils down to that.
What about making it safe so 100,000's of people can go home. Last time I looked they were becoming our problem. So we are involved.
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Reply #7 - Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:18pm
 
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:05pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:59pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:56pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:54pm:
Weigh it up I suppose- Assad or a group that kills or enslaves anybody who isn't a radical Sunni Islamist.


Weigh as much as we like.  Get out, and let the Arabs sort out Arabia, thank you.
So we should sit back while Christians , gays, Shites etc etc are being murdered and a terrorist group that wants us dead gets more powerful to threaten us in the future??


Since when was the last time the Arabs tried to invade outside Arabia?  They take a swipe at us now only because we have stuck our unwanted beak into their business in Arabia.  It all boils down to that.
What about making it safe so 100,000's of people can go home. Last time I looked they were becoming our problem. So we are involved.


Of course we are involved, and yeas there is a problem....we created.
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Reply #8 - Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:42pm
 
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:18pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:05pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:59pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:56pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:54pm:
Weigh it up I suppose- Assad or a group that kills or enslaves anybody who isn't a radical Sunni Islamist.


Weigh as much as we like.  Get out, and let the Arabs sort out Arabia, thank you.
So we should sit back while Christians , gays, Shites etc etc are being murdered and a terrorist group that wants us dead gets more powerful to threaten us in the future??


Since when was the last time the Arabs tried to invade outside Arabia?  They take a swipe at us now only because we have stuck our unwanted beak into their business in Arabia.  It all boils down to that.
What about making it safe so 100,000's of people can go home. Last time I looked they were becoming our problem. So we are involved.


Of course we are involved, and yeas there is a problem....we created.
I didn't create anything. I didn't ever back the idea of invading Iraq or Afghanistan. A bunch of powerful people are the only ones responsible. Something has to be done about the mess we are in now though.
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Reply #9 - Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:48pm
 
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:42pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:18pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:05pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:59pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:56pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:54pm:
Weigh it up I suppose- Assad or a group that kills or enslaves anybody who isn't a radical Sunni Islamist.


Weigh as much as we like.  Get out, and let the Arabs sort out Arabia, thank you.
So we should sit back while Christians , gays, Shites etc etc are being murdered and a terrorist group that wants us dead gets more powerful to threaten us in the future??


Since when was the last time the Arabs tried to invade outside Arabia?  They take a swipe at us now only because we have stuck our unwanted beak into their business in Arabia.  It all boils down to that.
What about making it safe so 100,000's of people can go home. Last time I looked they were becoming our problem. So we are involved.


Of course we are involved, and yeas there is a problem....we created.
I didn't create anything. I didn't ever back the idea of invading Iraq or Afghanistan. A bunch of powerful people are the only ones responsible. Something has to be done about the mess we are in now though.


Your Government, in your name, did.  Just like your Government, in your name, is running concentration camps to house genuine refugees, paying people smugglers, acting like pirates on the High Seas...all in your name.
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Reply #10 - Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:55pm
 
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:48pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:42pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:18pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:05pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:59pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:56pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:54pm:
Weigh it up I suppose- Assad or a group that kills or enslaves anybody who isn't a radical Sunni Islamist.


Weigh as much as we like.  Get out, and let the Arabs sort out Arabia, thank you.
So we should sit back while Christians , gays, Shites etc etc are being murdered and a terrorist group that wants us dead gets more powerful to threaten us in the future??


Since when was the last time the Arabs tried to invade outside Arabia?  They take a swipe at us now only because we have stuck our unwanted beak into their business in Arabia.  It all boils down to that.
What about making it safe so 100,000's of people can go home. Last time I looked they were becoming our problem. So we are involved.


Of course we are involved, and yeas there is a problem....we created.
I didn't create anything. I didn't ever back the idea of invading Iraq or Afghanistan. A bunch of powerful people are the only ones responsible. Something has to be done about the mess we are in now though.


Your Government, in your name, did.  Just like your Government, in your name, is running concentration camps to house genuine refugees, paying people smugglers, acting like pirates on the High Seas...all in your name.
So powerful people do what they want and I'm somehow to blame?? I don't mind people smuggling being stopped though . That's one thing they have accomplished that I agree with. It was the least thing our leaders could do after the mess Labor made.
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While you sit idle and not condemn it....yeas, you are to blame.  "The standard you walk by is the standard you accept."
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Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 5:08pm:
While you sit idle and not condemn it....yeas, you are to blame.  "The standard you walk by is the standard you accept."
Sorry Bud, I didn't do anything. If you want to feel guilty about what happened then go ahead. I just work and pay taxes.
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Reply #13 - Nov 11th, 2015 at 7:54pm
 
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:48pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:42pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:18pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 4:05pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:59pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:56pm:
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 3:54pm:
Weigh it up I suppose- Assad or a group that kills or enslaves anybody who isn't a radical Sunni Islamist.


Weigh as much as we like.  Get out, and let the Arabs sort out Arabia, thank you.
So we should sit back while Christians , gays, Shites etc etc are being murdered and a terrorist group that wants us dead gets more powerful to threaten us in the future??


Since when was the last time the Arabs tried to invade outside Arabia?  They take a swipe at us now only because we have stuck our unwanted beak into their business in Arabia.  It all boils down to that.
What about making it safe so 100,000's of people can go home. Last time I looked they were becoming our problem. So we are involved.


Of course we are involved, and yeas there is a problem....we created.
I didn't create anything. I didn't ever back the idea of invading Iraq or Afghanistan. A bunch of powerful people are the only ones responsible. Something has to be done about the mess we are in now though.


Your Government, in your name, did.  Just like your Government, in your name, is running concentration camps to house genuine refugees, paying people smugglers, acting like pirates on the High Seas...all in your name.


Yet you've been screeching lately that what's happening in detention centres isn't in your name. If you're consistent then perhaps you should hand yourself in for these (supposed) murders and invasions you have committed.
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Reply #14 - Nov 11th, 2015 at 7:55pm
 
double plus good wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 5:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 11th, 2015 at 5:08pm:
While you sit idle and not condemn it....yeas, you are to blame.  "The standard you walk by is the standard you accept."
Sorry Bud, I didn't do anything.



Exactly.

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