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Re: Atheists open churches around the world
Reply #75 - Nov 11^th, 2015 at 6:35pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 6:33pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 6:16pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 6:09pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 6:07pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 5:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:25pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:19pm:

Stratos wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:09pm:

That which is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Which is why God (or anything) is a poor argument for the questions "what came before the big bang". Nobody knows. Maybe it was God. Maybe it was Bojack's Penis.

Both statement are provided without evidence to substantiate their various claims. If you lack knowledge in a particular area, then the correct answer is "I don't know", not God/Allah/Vishnu did it when there is nothing to suggest otherwise.

He Man wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 3:45pm:

From the beginning the wages of sin was death, set by god.

Read Genesis. The truly scary thing reading it in hindsight was that the Adam and Eve fable's moral is to not learn. Man was punished forever, for wanting to learn more. What a perfect set up for thousands of years of theocratic punishment of learning and discoveries that didn't fit to theocratic dogma.

So you ignore evidence of a Gods existence

None exists.

There is no evidence you exist. There is no evidence Obama exists. There is no evidence that Turnbull exists. I have never met any therefore they do not exist.

This is the core of your thinking - or what passes for it.

Are you crazy maria? Of course there is evidence, living people have met these people, they can verify that they exist.

Some things are certain, other's not so certain and god is one of them.

Prove George Washington and Captain Cook existed.

Ok, i'll bite.

We have writings from both of them.

And much is written about them.

Birth certificates. Death certificates. Eyewitness accounts and testimonials.

So easy... using the Stratos methodology we can eliminate eyewitness accounts as they are unreliable and more likely fraudulent. All other information is faked and writings are mere heresay.

Cook and Washington DID NOT EXIST and there is no proof to say otherwise.

You know, i think you think that is actually an argument.

Gotta admit, i was hoping for a little more than that.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36060 Gender:	Re: Atheists open churches around the world Reply #76 - Nov 11^th, 2015 at 6:36pm I don't think you have understood Stratos at all Maria.
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Re: Atheists open churches around the world
Reply #77 - Nov 11^th, 2015 at 6:39pm

mothra wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 6:35pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 6:33pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 6:16pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 6:09pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 6:07pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 5:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:25pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:19pm:

Stratos wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:09pm:

That which is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Which is why God (or anything) is a poor argument for the questions "what came before the big bang". Nobody knows. Maybe it was God. Maybe it was Bojack's Penis.

Both statement are provided without evidence to substantiate their various claims. If you lack knowledge in a particular area, then the correct answer is "I don't know", not God/Allah/Vishnu did it when there is nothing to suggest otherwise.

He Man wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 3:45pm:

From the beginning the wages of sin was death, set by god.

Read Genesis. The truly scary thing reading it in hindsight was that the Adam and Eve fable's moral is to not learn. Man was punished forever, for wanting to learn more. What a perfect set up for thousands of years of theocratic punishment of learning and discoveries that didn't fit to theocratic dogma.

So you ignore evidence of a Gods existence

None exists.

There is no evidence you exist. There is no evidence Obama exists. There is no evidence that Turnbull exists. I have never met any therefore they do not exist.

This is the core of your thinking - or what passes for it.

Are you crazy maria? Of course there is evidence, living people have met these people, they can verify that they exist.

Some things are certain, other's not so certain and god is one of them.

Prove George Washington and Captain Cook existed.

Ok, i'll bite.

We have writings from both of them.

And much is written about them.

Birth certificates. Death certificates. Eyewitness accounts and testimonials.

So easy... using the Stratos methodology we can eliminate eyewitness accounts as they are unreliable and more likely fraudulent. All other information is faked and writings are mere heresay.

Cook and Washington DID NOT EXIST and there is no proof to say otherwise.

You know, i think you think that is actually an argument.

Gotta admit, i was hoping for a little more than that.

I am using the exact same Stratos argument. I am glad you realise just how lame the argument is. I also notice that you have not attempted to prove the existence of the mythological George Washington and Captain Cook. No irrefutable proof exists.

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Re: Atheists open churches around the world
Reply #78 - Nov 11^th, 2015 at 6:42pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 6:39pm:

I am using the exact same Stratos argument. I am glad you realise just how lame the argument is. I also notice that you have not attempted to prove the existence of the mythological George Washington and Captain Cook. No irrefutable proof exists.

No. You're really not,

And irrefutable proof exists. You are being preposterous.

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Reply #79 - Nov 11^th, 2015 at 6:52pm

Maria, a piece of contemporary evidence, written or archaeological exists for all of the people you have mentioned, which is the same criteria I have said repeatedly that will convicne me of Jesus existance.

Using the same criteria I do believe there were other biblical new testament characters such as:

Pontius Pilate: The Pilate Stone (look it up) and various historian's mention of him
Herod: Archaeological evidence (his tomb for example) and various historians accounts

Jesus? : anonymous writings written at the earliest 40 years (for the earliest gospel) and up to 70 years (for the Fourth Gospel), no mention from any contemporary historian.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #80 - Nov 11^th, 2015 at 7:24pm

Stratos wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:49pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

you end up with something from nothing

Er, no. I'm pretty sure I clearly said that nobody knows what was before the big bang, including you. So I'm not saying that we get something from nothing, or anything like that.

He Man wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

A God clearly is more realistic in a theoretical sense

Why exactly? What makes a god more likely than the previously cited example of Bojack's penis?

So if you don't know you don't know. So because you don't know you form the equation god does not exist in your mind so far, and you then have the hide to ridicule others. Ya that's bright. At the end of the day you don't know if god exists or not so best not go on like a silly billy eh. Cheesy

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Reply #82 - Nov 11^th, 2015 at 7:25pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 5:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:25pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:19pm:

Stratos wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:09pm:

That which is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Which is why God (or anything) is a poor argument for the questions "what came before the big bang". Nobody knows. Maybe it was God. Maybe it was Bojack's Penis.

Both statement are provided without evidence to substantiate their various claims. If you lack knowledge in a particular area, then the correct answer is "I don't know", not God/Allah/Vishnu did it when there is nothing to suggest otherwise.

He Man wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 3:45pm:

From the beginning the wages of sin was death, set by god.

Read Genesis. The truly scary thing reading it in hindsight was that the Adam and Eve fable's moral is to not learn. Man was punished forever, for wanting to learn more. What a perfect set up for thousands of years of theocratic punishment of learning and discoveries that didn't fit to theocratic dogma.

So you ignore evidence of a Gods existence

None exists.

There is no evidence you exist. There is no evidence Obama exists. There is no evidence that Turnbull exists. I have never met any therefore they do not exist.

This is the core of your thinking - or what passes for it.

Next we'll hear from Longy that pedophiles don't exist in the churches.

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He Man Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1159 Gender:	Re: Atheists open churches around the world Reply #83 - Nov 11^th, 2015 at 7:27pm Those contemporary historians have cornered the , market haven't they.
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Re: Atheists open churches around the world
Reply #84 - Nov 11^th, 2015 at 7:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 7:25pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 5:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:25pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:19pm:

Stratos wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:09pm:

That which is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Which is why God (or anything) is a poor argument for the questions "what came before the big bang". Nobody knows. Maybe it was God. Maybe it was Bojack's Penis.

Both statement are provided without evidence to substantiate their various claims. If you lack knowledge in a particular area, then the correct answer is "I don't know", not God/Allah/Vishnu did it when there is nothing to suggest otherwise.

He Man wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 3:45pm:

From the beginning the wages of sin was death, set by god.

Read Genesis. The truly scary thing reading it in hindsight was that the Adam and Eve fable's moral is to not learn. Man was punished forever, for wanting to learn more. What a perfect set up for thousands of years of theocratic punishment of learning and discoveries that didn't fit to theocratic dogma.

So you ignore evidence of a Gods existence

None exists.

There is no evidence you exist. There is no evidence Obama exists. There is no evidence that Turnbull exists. I have never met any therefore they do not exist.

This is the core of your thinking - or what passes for it.

Next we'll hear from Longy that pedophiles don't exist in the churches.

Here we go, the longeyophobia has set in, well there goes another thread. Roll Eyes

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Re: Atheists open churches around the world
Reply #85 - Nov 11^th, 2015 at 7:28pm

He Man wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 3:50pm:

I understand you perfectly. You are saying there is no evidence according to your paradigm because that suits you. Your paradigm. Just like I said my hypothesis that a God created a Big Bang gives me a creator yours does not. Evidence of an intelligent creator would be intelligent life and complexity, which I have. In your case you end up with a theory. Trying to explain everything that is perfectly explainable in mine.

You are free to believe what you want but you have no case whatsoever to talk down to others at all. Nor tell them that there is no god. Only that is your opinion.

Not my fault iof you're a smacking idiot. Intelligent life on this planet is explained just as easily by evolutionary processes. And we have a shitload more evidence for those.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #86 - Nov 11^th, 2015 at 7:30pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 5:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:25pm:

He Man wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:19pm:

Stratos wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 4:09pm:

That which is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Which is why God (or anything) is a poor argument for the questions "what came before the big bang". Nobody knows. Maybe it was God. Maybe it was Bojack's Penis.

Both statement are provided without evidence to substantiate their various claims. If you lack knowledge in a particular area, then the correct answer is "I don't know", not God/Allah/Vishnu did it when there is nothing to suggest otherwise.

He Man wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 3:45pm:

From the beginning the wages of sin was death, set by god.

Read Genesis. The truly scary thing reading it in hindsight was that the Adam and Eve fable's moral is to not learn. Man was punished forever, for wanting to learn more. What a perfect set up for thousands of years of theocratic punishment of learning and discoveries that didn't fit to theocratic dogma.

So you ignore evidence of a Gods existence

None exists.

There is no evidence you exist. There is no evidence Obama exists. There is no evidence that Turnbull exists. I have never met any therefore they do not exist.

This is the core of your thinking - or what passes for it.

There is no evidence to suggest God exists.

Get used to it.

(look up the word 'faith', Longy)

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Atheists open churches around the world Reply #87 - Nov 11^th, 2015 at 7:31pm I don't know about God, and Jesus, and all those ancient cats, but I sure hope Santa doesn't miss my house.
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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Atheists open churches around the world Reply #88 - Nov 11^th, 2015 at 8:20pm He Man wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 7:24pm: At the end of the day you don't know if god exists or not Correct. I'm curious as to why repeating my statement back to me is somehow an argument? Where have I said otherwise?
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Reply #89 - Nov 11^th, 2015 at 8:46pm

He Man wrote on Nov 11^th, 2015 at 7:24pm:

So because you don't know you form the equation god does not exist in your mind so far, and you then have the hide to ridicule others. Ya that's bright. At the end of the day you don't know if god exists or not so best not go on like a silly billy eh. Cheesy

I think the point was you have no platform for ridiculing
others as you can be ridiculed in the same light stratos.
Try not to let that sail on one ear and out the other.

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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.

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