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Re: Abbotts FTA's already hepling the economy
Reply #15 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 5:54pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:50pm:

Swagman wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:26pm:

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Another of the report's authors, ANZ's co-head of Australian economics, Felicity Emmett, said the surge in LNG exports will be a net benefit for the country despite the higher domestic prices.

"There will be the benefits to growth and the benefits to the trade balance and also higher government revenues both at the Commonwealth level and the state level," she said.

ANZ expects LNG to overtake iron ore as the key driver of Australian exports by next year, also reversing the current trade deficit.

Smithy says that Abbott's FTAs already helping the economy....... Smiley

Smithy is exactly right (one of those incredibly rare occasions Cheesy

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you had to much beer already?

where did I say that?

......it is the title of your thread Johnny Cheesy

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Re: Abbotts FTA's already hepling the economy
Reply #16 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:03pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 3:08pm:

We need a gas reservation policy here. A lower price for domestically consumed gas and a higher price for exported gas. We wouldn't be the first in the world to do it. Why should it be extracted here and sold at a global price instead of getting our own gas cheaper?

This is how residents of oil-exporting countries can pay just a few cents a litre for petrol, while commanding market prices for exports. Why can't we do this?

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Re: Abbotts FTA's already hepling the economy
Reply #17 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:07pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 5:02pm:

Last month at a high-level industry course on Coal Seam Gas we were asked (by a local council) how to change people's silly opinions about CSG. My comment was to just let them run out of gas or price it so high they cannot use it.

Maybe I was listened to!!!

In 10 years, CSG will be totally unnecessary. By then, we will be able to manufacture methane industrially using sunshine, air and water. We can already do this with diesel, and methane is a far simpler molecule.

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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21097 Perth Gender:	Re: Abbotts FTA's already hepling the economy Reply #18 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:09pm WA reserves 15% of its gas for domestic use with little to no damage to investment nor has it created sovereign risk, with $88 billion invested in WA gas production since reservation was introduced in 2006....How will this policy help our manufactures remain competitive???
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Re: Abbotts FTA's already hepling the economy
Reply #19 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:12pm

Swagman wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 5:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:50pm:

Swagman wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:26pm:

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Another of the report's authors, ANZ's co-head of Australian economics, Felicity Emmett, said the surge in LNG exports will be a net benefit for the country despite the higher domestic prices.

"There will be the benefits to growth and the benefits to the trade balance and also higher government revenues both at the Commonwealth level and the state level," she said.

ANZ expects LNG to overtake iron ore as the key driver of Australian exports by next year, also reversing the current trade deficit.

Smithy says that Abbott's FTAs already helping the economy....... Smiley

Smithy is exactly right (one of those incredibly rare occasions Cheesy

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you had to much beer already?

where did I say that?

......it is the title of your thread Johnny Cheesy

no it's not ... the title of my thread is hepling, which is about as much help to the economy as the FTA's Cheesy

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Re: Abbotts FTA's already hepling the economy
Reply #20 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:31pm

Bam wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:03pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 3:08pm:

We need a gas reservation policy here. A lower price for domestically consumed gas and a higher price for exported gas. We wouldn't be the first in the world to do it. Why should it be extracted here and sold at a global price instead of getting our own gas cheaper?

This is how residents of oil-exporting countries can pay just a few cents a litre for petrol, while commanding market prices for exports. Why can't we do this?

Why? Well the govt makes money via royalties etc, Australians pay more for a product. It's like a tax on Australians but done through trade rather than govt and you cannot "blame" the govt. A 30% rise in the price is also a 30% rise in GST revenues on it. Win - win, for govt.

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Reply #21 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:33pm

Bam wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:07pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 5:02pm:

Last month at a high-level industry course on Coal Seam Gas we were asked (by a local council) how to change people's silly opinions about CSG. My comment was to just let them run out of gas or price it so high they cannot use it.

Maybe I was listened to!!!

In 10 years, CSG will be totally unnecessary. By then, we will be able to manufacture methane industrially using sunshine, air and water. We can already do this with diesel, and methane is a far simpler molecule.

dream on. If that were true there would already be places doing this. Promised technology is often a false hope. Im still waiting for my jet pack.

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Re: Abbotts FTA's already hepling the economy
Reply #22 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:10pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:50pm:

Swagman wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:26pm:

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Another of the report's authors, ANZ's co-head of Australian economics, Felicity Emmett, said the surge in LNG exports will be a net benefit for the country despite the higher domestic prices.

"There will be the benefits to growth and the benefits to the trade balance and also higher government revenues both at the Commonwealth level and the state level," she said.

ANZ expects LNG to overtake iron ore as the key driver of Australian exports by next year, also reversing the current trade deficit.

Smithy says that Abbott's FTAs already helping the economy....... Smiley

Smithy is exactly right (one of those incredibly rare occasions Cheesy

)

you had to much beer already?

where did I say that?

Swagman wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:26pm:

Another of the report's authors, ANZ's co-head of Australian economics, Felicity Emmett,

Na h - he said HEPLING the economy - it's an ancient Blagislavian term meaning rooting..... but he wasn't allowed to say rooting....

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Re: Abbotts FTA's already hepling the economy
Reply #23 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:24pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:33pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:07pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 5:02pm:

Last month at a high-level industry course on Coal Seam Gas we were asked (by a local council) how to change people's silly opinions about CSG. My comment was to just let them run out of gas or price it so high they cannot use it.

Maybe I was listened to!!!

In 10 years, CSG will be totally unnecessary. By then, we will be able to manufacture methane industrially using sunshine, air and water. We can already do this with diesel, and methane is a far simpler molecule.

dream on. If that were true there would already be places doing this. Promised technology is often a false hope. Im still waiting for my jet pack.

https://www.yahoo.com/travel/jet-pack-travel-is-about-to-become-a-reality-124669...

There ya go, 2 second google search.

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Re: Abbotts FTA's already hepling the economy
Reply #24 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:44pm

Swagman wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:25pm:

Household gas prices will soon surge by 30 per cent, according to new research by ANZ, with the price rise also having the potential to send parts of Australia's already struggling industrial sector out of business.

Whilst screwing the aussie consumer ... you can expect the same with meat and agriculture too

Only the ABC would report a boom as doom and gloom.... Cheesy

Only the ABC??
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2015/7/23/australian-news/household-gas-bills-jump-30

In a few days rest of commer
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-23/household-industrial-gas-prices-to-surge/6...

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Re: Abbotts FTA's already hepling the economy
Reply #25 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:56pm

Its time wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:24pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:33pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:07pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 5:02pm:

Last month at a high-level industry course on Coal Seam Gas we were asked (by a local council) how to change people's silly opinions about CSG. My comment was to just let them run out of gas or price it so high they cannot use it.

Maybe I was listened to!!!

In 10 years, CSG will be totally unnecessary. By then, we will be able to manufacture methane industrially using sunshine, air and water. We can already do this with diesel, and methane is a far simpler molecule.

dream on. If that were true there would already be places doing this. Promised technology is often a false hope. Im still waiting for my jet pack.

https://www.yahoo.com/travel/jet-pack-travel-is-about-to-become-a-reality-124669...

There ya go, 2 second google search.

'about to' is not 'is'. Plus a jetpack that cannot be afforded or probably be licensed to use is hardly the same as what the space age promised.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Abbotts FTA's already hepling the economy
Reply #26 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 8:47pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:56pm:

Its time wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:24pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:33pm:

Bam wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:07pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 5:02pm:

Last month at a high-level industry course on Coal Seam Gas we were asked (by a local council) how to change people's silly opinions about CSG. My comment was to just let them run out of gas or price it so high they cannot use it.

Maybe I was listened to!!!

In 10 years, CSG will be totally unnecessary. By then, we will be able to manufacture methane industrially using sunshine, air and water. We can already do this with diesel, and methane is a far simpler molecule.

dream on. If that were true there would already be places doing this. Promised technology is often a false hope. Im still waiting for my jet pack.

https://www.yahoo.com/travel/jet-pack-travel-is-about-to-become-a-reality-124669...

There ya go, 2 second google search.

'about to' is not 'is'. Plus a jetpack that cannot be afforded or probably be licensed to use is hardly the same as what the space age promised.

Sell some of your literature , and your ford escort for a down payment

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