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Reply #75 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 1:58pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 1:45pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 12:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 9:38am:

double plus good wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:51am:

Just what OP needs...another leftard.

and an insane one at that. Most of what he says are lies and the rest exaggerations and errors of fact.

yep, just another typical leftie green.

Exaggerations?

Like you know crap about the conflict? PYD, PKK and Turkish Communist party forces are within 40 kilometers of Al Raqqah, they have linked Cizre and Kobane which has seriously cut off supplies to Daesh from Turkey and the only thing stopping them from moving across to link Afrin is threat of Turkish retaliation. They have been by far the most effective fighting force against Daesh taking huge swaths of land from Daesh and linking almost the entire north of Syria into a Communist Confederation.

When Daesh had Sinjar surrounded and the Barzani's right wing Peshmerga fled and left the Yazidi's defenceless to be massacred, who came in and saved the day? The PYD and PKK, cutting an entire corridor through the ISIS forces in little time allowing the tens of thousands of refugees to escape into safe Kurdish territory, only then did the west and the Peshmerga show up, claiming "They were getting reinforcements" and took the entire credit for the operation. The PKK and PYD also work in Iraq training local militias and the Peshmerga as they have 30+ years experience fighting Iran, Iraqi Government, Syrian Government and Turkish Government.

So please, tell me how the "left" loves Daesh when we are the only force that has been effective in fighting them. If you actually want to trace Daesh ideology, it doesn't take long to see that much of the batshit Fascist ideology that is now present in radical Islam was actually taught by right wingers from the west which is why much of the propaganda is literally 1:1 lifted from early 20th century racist european propaganda and racial theory.

someone is apparently unaware of the massive bombings and so on from the RIGHT-WING GOVTS which have been the only thing effective in stopping ISIS.

You are just another far-left idiot. seen your type plenty of times before.

The sporadic bombing campaign while has helped, is not everything and while it helps disrupting Daesh convoys, does little in urban combat which most battles take place. You can't win a war from the skies. Also there has been little bombing against Daesh forces in the massive mobilization and push towards Al-Raqqah and literally no bombing in Al-Hasakah.

The truth is that the PYD and PKK are just superior fighters to everyone in the region by a large margin, even in the most dire moments of Kobane, you had maybe <700 PYD holding off several Daesh battalions and dozens of tanks for over a month without a single bomb dropped from Western forces.

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Reply #76 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:04pm

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 1:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 1:45pm:

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 12:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 9:38am:

double plus good wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:51am:

Just what OP needs...another leftard.

and an insane one at that. Most of what he says are lies and the rest exaggerations and errors of fact.

yep, just another typical leftie green.

Exaggerations?

Like you know crap about the conflict? PYD, PKK and Turkish Communist party forces are within 40 kilometers of Al Raqqah, they have linked Cizre and Kobane which has seriously cut off supplies to Daesh from Turkey and the only thing stopping them from moving across to link Afrin is threat of Turkish retaliation. They have been by far the most effective fighting force against Daesh taking huge swaths of land from Daesh and linking almost the entire north of Syria into a Communist Confederation.

When Daesh had Sinjar surrounded and the Barzani's right wing Peshmerga fled and left the Yazidi's defenceless to be massacred, who came in and saved the day? The PYD and PKK, cutting an entire corridor through the ISIS forces in little time allowing the tens of thousands of refugees to escape into safe Kurdish territory, only then did the west and the Peshmerga show up, claiming "They were getting reinforcements" and took the entire credit for the operation. The PKK and PYD also work in Iraq training local militias and the Peshmerga as they have 30+ years experience fighting Iran, Iraqi Government, Syrian Government and Turkish Government.

So please, tell me how the "left" loves Daesh when we are the only force that has been effective in fighting them. If you actually want to trace Daesh ideology, it doesn't take long to see that much of the batshit Fascist ideology that is now present in radical Islam was actually taught by right wingers from the west which is why much of the propaganda is literally 1:1 lifted from early 20th century racist european propaganda and racial theory.

someone is apparently unaware of the massive bombings and so on from the RIGHT-WING GOVTS which have been the only thing effective in stopping ISIS.

You are just another far-left idiot. seen your type plenty of times before.

The sporadic bombing campaign while has helped, is not everything and while it helps disrupting Daesh convoys, does little in urban combat which most battles take place. You can't win a war from the skies. Also there has been little bombing against Daesh forces in the massive mobilization and push towards Al-Raqqah and literally no bombing in Al-Hasakah.

The truth is that the PYD and PKK are just superior fighters to everyone in the region by a large margin, even in the most dire moments of Kobane, you had maybe <700 PYD holding off several Daesh battalions and dozens of tanks.

yeah the bombing that has killed nearly a third of the ISIS forces is ineffective.

Not met an old-school commie for quite a while. I thought you were all dead. Your political ideology is certainly so.

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Reply #77 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:12pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:04pm:

yeah the bombing that has killed nearly a third of the ISIS forces is ineffective.

Not met an old-school commie for quite a while. I thought you were all dead. Your political ideology is certainly so.

Killed a third of Daesh forces? Hahaha, what? It's not even known how large Daesh are, estimates of ground troops range from 30,000 to 150,000.

Again, you can't win a war from the skies, this is basic military strategy 101.

Also again, the PYD and PKK scored siginificant victories and carved out huge territory from Daesh long before the bombing campaigns even began. There are currently no bombing campaigns taking place around Al-Hasakah which is the major battle taking place which the PYD alone turned around.

Most of the bombing is targeted in Iraq anyway suppording the Peshmerga. Bombing in Syria has been sporadic at best and targeted at Daesh HQ and convoys.

There really isn't any point debating me on this, I'm in personal contact with members of military forces fighting Daesh from the PYD forces to the FSA factions getting news on Syria in almost a daily basis.

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Reply #78 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:20pm

Kiron22 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:12pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:04pm:

yeah the bombing that has killed nearly a third of the ISIS forces is ineffective.

Not met an old-school commie for quite a while. I thought you were all dead. Your political ideology is certainly so.

Killed a third of Daesh forces? Hahaha, what? It's not even known how large Daesh are, estimates of ground troops range from 30,000 to 150,000.

Again, you can't win a war from the skies, this is basic military strategy 101.

Also again, the PYD and PKK scored siginificant victories and carved out huge territory from Daesh long before the bombing campaigns even began. There are currently no bombing campaigns taking place around Al-Hasakah which is the major battle taking place which the PYD alone turned around.

Most of the bombing is targeted in Iraq anyway suppording the Peshmerga. Bombing in Syria has been sporadic at best and targeted at Daesh HQ and convoys.

There really isn't any point debating me on this, I'm in personal contact with members of military forces fighting Daesh from the PYD forces to the FSA factions getting news on Syria in almost a daily basis.

your credibility isnt very high so claiming 'special information' isnt going to help. if the right-wing govts stopped their attacks on ISIS your mob of petty goons would be overrun very quickly. The claim you cannot win a war from the air is a bit simplistic at best. Or are the worlds air-forces a bit pointless? why dont you ask the estimated 15,000 dead ISIS idiots - all killed from bombings.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: violent antiaustralian leftys Reply #79 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:39pm longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:20pm: your credibility isnt very high You're right Longy - far more credible to say something like one third of Daesh has been wiped out by US led bombing - based on nothing at all.
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: violent antiaustralian leftys Reply #80 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:44pm polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:39pm: longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:20pm: your credibility isnt very high You're right Longy - far more credible to say something like one third of Daesh has been wiped out by US led bombing - based on nothing at all. Tony told him. Must be true
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Kiron22 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 896 Gender:	Re: violent antiaustralian leftys Reply #81 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:09pm Also looks like Reclaim were bringing guns to the protests which were seized by police. Such peaceful protesters. Also activists I know are getting death threats from them.
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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: violent antiaustralian leftys Reply #82 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:20pm Kiron22 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:09pm: Also looks like Reclaim were bringing guns to the protests which were seized by police. 'Where did you hear that?
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Kiron22 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 896 Gender:	Re: violent antiaustralian leftys Reply #83 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:29pm Stratos wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:20pm: Kiron22 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:09pm: Also looks like Reclaim were bringing guns to the protests which were seized by police. 'Where did you hear that? 3awdotcomdotau/news/revealed-firearm-seized-from-busload-of-protesters-heading-t o-antiislam-rally-20150723-giinar
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Reply #84 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:35pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:39pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:20pm:

your credibility isnt very high

You're right Longy - far more credible to say something like one third of Daesh has been wiped out by US led bombing - based on nothing at all.

you do know that was the allied military statement, not my own, right? The only regret is that it isnt 100%. the world needs to be rid of these vermin. they are the nazis of our era.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: violent antiaustralian leftys Reply #85 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:36pm Stratos wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:20pm: Kiron22 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:09pm: Also looks like Reclaim were bringing guns to the protests which were seized by police. 'Where did you hear that? https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/29005305/gun-seized-before-reclaim-protest-in-vi...
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: violent antiaustralian leftys Reply #86 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:37pm longweekend58 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 4:35pm: you do know that was the allied military statement, not my own, right? still copy / pasting I see
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