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The Heartless Felon

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Re: State Of Our Welfare Safety Net Protest Rally
Reply #15 - Jul 17^th, 2015 at 3:19pm

Kat wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:38am:

Kat wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:29am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:06am:

I rarely see a housing commision house with out a foxtel box and a boat parked in the yard. i rarely see a welfare recipient without a smartphone.
You have a very different definition of safety net to me Kat

Yes, I seem to, don't I?

The difference being, mine is the correct one.

Oh, BTW, I noticed in Coles yesterday they are selling smart-phones for around $40.

And they're essential if you are looking for work.

as well as a smart phone , other essentail items include

a smile
a positive attitude
an attitude that you will never quit
an attitude that each failure brings you closer to success
a strong work ethic
a willingness to work on your nutrition , your fitness and self - improvement
a willingness to only assocaite with positive people
a willingness to cut depressed, negative, doom sayers, pessimists, angry people and criminal assocaites from your life
a willingness to not become addicted to gambling, drugs or alcohol, internet, televsion or computers.

these cost less than $40
in fact , they are free Wink

Wink

And none of that will let you contact a potential employer, nor will they help an employer contact you.

And with the free data a pre-paid plan includes, they can job-search as well.

Your attitude that the unemployed deserve nothing sucks, quite frankly. As does the persistent stereotyping in the
face of overwhelming evidence that the stereotype is virtually non-existent nowadays, and has been for years.

And none of that will STOP you from contacting a potential employer. And if potential employers are made aware that you possess these qualities, they are more likely to contact you...

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Re: State Of Our Welfare Safety Net Protest Rally
Reply #16 - Jul 17^th, 2015 at 3:42pm

cods wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:32am:

gosh how did anyone find a job before smartphones?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
???????

They were stuck on the wall at the CES office, dozens and dozens of little notices, you take one off and the nice lady rings up and makes an appointment for you. You meet the boss, he has a chat, if he says....when would you like to start? You say tomorrow.

Maybe he says....bring your birth certificate along tomorrow or maybe you don't even need that.....just your name, date of birth and you got paid CASH in a brown envelope......oh for the good old days, before fiat currency.

Where's the CES office?

We don't have them now.

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Re: State Of Our Welfare Safety Net Protest Rally
Reply #17 - Jul 17^th, 2015 at 4:04pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 3:42pm:

cods wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:32am:

gosh how did anyone find a job before smartphones?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
???????

They were stuck on the wall at the CES office, dozens and dozens of little notices, you take one off and the nice lady rings up and makes an appointment for you. You meet the boss, he has a chat, if he says....when would you like to start? You say tomorrow.

Maybe he says....bring your birth certificate along tomorrow or maybe you don't even need that.....just your name, date of birth and you got paid CASH in a brown envelope......oh for the good old days, before fiat currency.

Where's the CES office?

We don't have them now.

Sounds like you know all about being unemployed, Pansi. Wink

Wink

How often did you apply for Unemployment Benefits from the CES? Grin

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Re: State Of Our Welfare Safety Net Protest Rally
Reply #18 - Jul 17^th, 2015 at 4:57pm

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 3:19pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:38am:

Kat wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:29am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:06am:

I rarely see a housing commision house with out a foxtel box and a boat parked in the yard. i rarely see a welfare recipient without a smartphone.
You have a very different definition of safety net to me Kat

Yes, I seem to, don't I?

The difference being, mine is the correct one.

Oh, BTW, I noticed in Coles yesterday they are selling smart-phones for around $40.

And they're essential if you are looking for work.

as well as a smart phone , other essentail items include

a smile
a positive attitude
an attitude that you will never quit
an attitude that each failure brings you closer to success
a strong work ethic
a willingness to work on your nutrition , your fitness and self - improvement
a willingness to only assocaite with positive people
a willingness to cut depressed, negative, doom sayers, pessimists, angry people and criminal assocaites from your life
a willingness to not become addicted to gambling, drugs or alcohol, internet, televsion or computers.

these cost less than $40
in fact , they are free Wink

Wink

And none of that will let you contact a potential employer, nor will they help an employer contact you.

And with the free data a pre-paid plan includes, they can job-search as well.

Your attitude that the unemployed deserve nothing sucks, quite frankly. As does the persistent stereotyping in the
face of overwhelming evidence that the stereotype is virtually non-existent nowadays, and has been for years.

And none of that will STOP you from contacting a potential employer. And

if potential employers are made aware that you possess these qualities, they are more likely to contact you...

Not if you don't got a phone, they won't.

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Re: State Of Our Welfare Safety Net Protest Rally
Reply #19 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 7:27am

Kat wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 4:57pm:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 3:19pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:38am:

Kat wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:29am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:06am:

I rarely see a housing commision house with out a foxtel box and a boat parked in the yard. i rarely see a welfare recipient without a smartphone.
You have a very different definition of safety net to me Kat

Yes, I seem to, don't I?

The difference being, mine is the correct one.

Oh, BTW, I noticed in Coles yesterday they are selling smart-phones for around $40.

And they're essential if you are looking for work.

as well as a smart phone , other essentail items include

a smile
a positive attitude
an attitude that you will never quit
an attitude that each failure brings you closer to success
a strong work ethic
a willingness to work on your nutrition , your fitness and self - improvement
a willingness to only assocaite with positive people
a willingness to cut depressed, negative, doom sayers, pessimists, angry people and criminal assocaites from your life
a willingness to not become addicted to gambling, drugs or alcohol, internet, televsion or computers.

these cost less than $40
in fact , they are free Wink

Wink

And none of that will let you contact a potential employer, nor will they help an employer contact you.

And with the free data a pre-paid plan includes, they can job-search as well.

Your attitude that the unemployed deserve nothing sucks, quite frankly. As does the persistent stereotyping in the
face of overwhelming evidence that the stereotype is virtually non-existent nowadays, and has been for years.

And none of that will STOP you from contacting a potential employer. And

if potential employers are made aware that you possess these qualities, they are more likely to contact you...

Not if you don't got a phone, they won't.

Are phones the only way people communicate?

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Ex Dame Pansi

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Re: State Of Our Welfare Safety Net Protest Rally
Reply #20 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 7:48am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 7:50am:

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............On a cold, wet, winters day dozens of Goulburn residents came together to rally against the disgraceful state of the welfare system and try to change the perception that welfare recipients are bludgers........
......

turn the hoses onto them.

they should be out starting up their own small businesses

They should be selling race horses to Hong Kong or opening mines, if Gina can, everyone can.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Hendrix
andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Re: State Of Our Welfare Safety Net Protest Rally
Reply #21 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 7:55am

Neferti wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 4:04pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 3:42pm:

cods wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:32am:

gosh how did anyone find a job before smartphones?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
???????

They were stuck on the wall at the CES office, dozens and dozens of little notices, you take one off and the nice lady rings up and makes an appointment for you. You meet the boss, he has a chat, if he says....when would you like to start? You say tomorrow.

Maybe he says....bring your birth certificate along tomorrow or maybe you don't even need that.....just your name, date of birth and you got paid CASH in a brown envelope......oh for the good old days, before fiat currency.

Where's the CES office?

We don't have them now.

Sounds like you know all about being unemployed, Pansi. Wink

Wink

How often did you apply for Unemployment Benefits from the CES? Grin

Grin

omg Neferti, you must be a baby.

Sounds like I know all about being EMPLOYED. Do you think they had job agency scams back then? No way!

There were jobs galore in the seventies and eighties, just take your pick. I used to work two jobs, office by day, office cleaning by night, save for 12 months and travel for 12 months and walk straight back into two jobs and do it all over again.....those were the days......more jobs than people wanting them.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Hendrix
andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Re: State Of Our Welfare Safety Net Protest Rally
Reply #22 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 7:58am

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 7:27am:

Kat wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 4:57pm:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 3:19pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:38am:

Kat wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:29am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:06am:

I rarely see a housing commision house with out a foxtel box and a boat parked in the yard. i rarely see a welfare recipient without a smartphone.
You have a very different definition of safety net to me Kat

Yes, I seem to, don't I?

The difference being, mine is the correct one.

Oh, BTW, I noticed in Coles yesterday they are selling smart-phones for around $40.

And they're essential if you are looking for work.

as well as a smart phone , other essentail items include

a smile
a positive attitude
an attitude that you will never quit
an attitude that each failure brings you closer to success
a strong work ethic
a willingness to work on your nutrition , your fitness and self - improvement
a willingness to only assocaite with positive people
a willingness to cut depressed, negative, doom sayers, pessimists, angry people and criminal assocaites from your life
a willingness to not become addicted to gambling, drugs or alcohol, internet, televsion or computers.

these cost less than $40
in fact , they are free Wink

Wink

And none of that will let you contact a potential employer, nor will they help an employer contact you.

And with the free data a pre-paid plan includes, they can job-search as well.

Your attitude that the unemployed deserve nothing sucks, quite frankly. As does the persistent stereotyping in the
face of overwhelming evidence that the stereotype is virtually non-existent nowadays, and has been for years.

And none of that will STOP you from contacting a potential employer. And

if potential employers are made aware that you possess these qualities, they are more likely to contact you...

Not if you don't got a phone, they won't.

Are phones the only way people communicate?

Yes. Phone and email.

Unless you live in the jungles of Papua New Guinea, then you get a boy to run to the next village with a message.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Hendrix
andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Re: State Of Our Welfare Safety Net Protest Rally
Reply #23 - Jul 18^th, 2015 at 8:49am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 7:58am:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 7:27am:

Kat wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 4:57pm:

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 3:19pm:

Kat wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:38am:

Kat wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:29am:

aquascoot wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:06am:

I rarely see a housing commision house with out a foxtel box and a boat parked in the yard. i rarely see a welfare recipient without a smartphone.
You have a very different definition of safety net to me Kat

Yes, I seem to, don't I?

The difference being, mine is the correct one.

Oh, BTW, I noticed in Coles yesterday they are selling smart-phones for around $40.

And they're essential if you are looking for work.

as well as a smart phone , other essentail items include

a smile
a positive attitude
an attitude that you will never quit
an attitude that each failure brings you closer to success
a strong work ethic
a willingness to work on your nutrition , your fitness and self - improvement
a willingness to only assocaite with positive people
a willingness to cut depressed, negative, doom sayers, pessimists, angry people and criminal assocaites from your life
a willingness to not become addicted to gambling, drugs or alcohol, internet, televsion or computers.

these cost less than $40
in fact , they are free Wink

Wink

And none of that will let you contact a potential employer, nor will they help an employer contact you.

And with the free data a pre-paid plan includes, they can job-search as well.

Your attitude that the unemployed deserve nothing sucks, quite frankly. As does the persistent stereotyping in the
face of overwhelming evidence that the stereotype is virtually non-existent nowadays, and has been for years.

And none of that will STOP you from contacting a potential employer. And

if potential employers are made aware that you possess these qualities, they are more likely to contact you...

Not if you don't got a phone, they won't.

Are phones the only way people communicate?

Yes. Phone and email.

Unless you live in the jungles of Papua New Guinea, then you get a boy to run to the next village with a message.

Phone and email are the ONLY means of communication?
Even sadder than your usual efforts.

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Re: State Of Our Welfare Safety Net Protest Rally
Reply #24 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:36pm

I found this when I was looking for one of the ring in Bronny facebook pages.

This is sad, if it's true. No reason why it's not true. People ask why you would be afraid of the government, given half a chance, they will kill you.

From Facebook.

John Deininger
22 hrs
Found out today that RAPAD are running a WFD program up at the old Dr Arratta Memorial Museum
There doing renovations on building (Slave labour instead of getting professional builders in)
The building is full of asbestos.
walls, toilets, and flooring are being removed... most stuff is just being smashed out. no care to safely remove it
no safety gear has been issued to the WFD workers.
Muttaburra Primary school is just down the road from Dr Arratta Memorial Museum there is no air monitoring being done.
There is no safety signs up saying asbestos is being removed
No training has been supplied to the workers about removing asbestos
Public hasn't been notified to say that they will be removing asbestos
None of the debris is being bagged its just getting loaded in a ute or trailer and dumped at the local tip

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Centrelink.Law.Reform.Australia/?fref=nf

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Hendrix
andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #25 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:43pm

The Heartless Felon wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 8:49am:

Phone and email are the ONLY means of communication?
Even sadder than your usual efforts.

Essential when looking for a job.

Of course people might try other methods, but for long term, after all the doors have been knocked on, after the pub crowd have been asked, after you hit up friends and family, after you post on facebook and twitter.

Would an employer bother with snail mail job applications?

I send my resume and cover letter by mail.

I get a reply 8-10 days later asking some pertinent questions relating to the job and the company.

I reply.

I get another letter 8-10 days later telling me to come in for an interview. OOPS......that was yesterday, bloody postman.

Only in your silly regressive world does that happen, not in the REAL world.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Hendrix
andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #26 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:46pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:06am:

I rarely see a housing commision house with out a foxtel box and a boat parked in the yard

Liar, whilst I'll give you the foxtel dishes, you are lying about the boats. I've been in several thousand housing commission homes over the years and I doubt I've ever seen more than a total of 10 boats.

as for the satellite dish, that doesn't mean they actually watch foxtel. I'm pretty sure i have a dish on my roof but I don't use foxtel. The previous owners installed it and many of the dishes you see on housing homes were installed previously.

Ohh, and whilst we're on the subject, what makes you think housing commission homes are for the poor only? If that were the case, there'd be no ten year waiting lists. Many housing commission homes have two working adults that make good money, kids go to provate schools etc.

you need to move out of your world of stereotypes and into reality ... the sooner the better for you.

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #27 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:46pm

cods wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:32am:

gosh how did anyone find a job before smartphones?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
???????

how did they find jobs before TELEPHONES, or before cars, what about before the telegram?

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #28 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 5:06pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:36pm:

I found this when I was looking for one of the ring in Bronny facebook pages.

This is sad, if it's true. No reason why it's not true.

Person I know has video and photographic evidence as well of his WftD selling the positions to private companies, he's used it to blackmail Max Employment to get him a job instead of being in Stream 1 where they barely even look for you and and when he lands a full time job he still plans to go to the media about it. (He also has a lot of dirt on Max)

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Reply #29 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 5:27pm

Bam wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 8:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 17^th, 2015 at 7:50am:

Quote:

............On a cold, wet, winters day dozens of Goulburn residents came together to rally against the disgraceful state of the welfare system and try to change the perception that welfare recipients are bludgers........
......

turn the hoses onto them.

We turn the hoses on all the rightard bludgers. This country is full of lazy rightard misers who have not donated to charity for years and who do nothing but sit on their arses all day looting money from other people's work.

and ironically it is the right-wing RICH people who outgive the lefites and poor by very big margin. Bill Gates gives more money to charity than the rest of the population of the planet combined. Warren Buffet is trying to beat him. Twiggy spends more money on training aboriginals than some governments. there are exceptions... Gina gives nuffin to nobody, but neither do a lot of other people.

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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