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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	The UK is Australia's Crystal Ball to the future May 25^th, 2015 at 1:59pm "This week the Government is also expected to detail plans to strip citizenship from those promoting, supporting or taking part in terrorism. "A number of countries are looking at stripping citizenship: the United Kingdom has done it, Canada and the US are considering it," Ms Bishop said". link
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Reply #1 - May 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm

"Mr Abbott said it was not the Government's intention to leave people "stateless".

... and:

"The Coalition is considering a plan to include those with sole Australian citizenship."

Poor Tones. Seems he's confused again. If only they'd brief him properly before he opens his mouth.

Would save such embarrassment to the poor thing.

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Reply #2 - May 25^th, 2015 at 2:37pm

I was watching the Ivan Milat program last night... and all I could think of was how ham strung our system is..

everyone knew he was the most likely one.. yet no one dared move because some legal idiot would undo everything...if it hadnt been for Paul Onions who happened to escape... Roll Eyes

.. who knows if Ivan ever would have been caught...

we are tied up so tightly everything this country does has to go through so many channels...I mean at the end of the day.. this guy shouldnt even be named he should be working incognito..god only knows what these people who are trying to get back in... will do...

mothra wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

The Coalition is considering a plan to include those with sole Australian citizenship."

he said JAIL for them.. he cannot take away from someone who was born here.....

but these mongrels over there now most have dual passports...I just hope when they say JAIL they mean like 25 years with no parole..

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Reply #3 - May 25^th, 2015 at 2:42pm

cods wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 2:37pm:

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mothra wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

The Coalition is considering a plan to include those with sole Australian citizenship."

he said JAIL for them.. he cannot take away from someone who was born here.....

but these mongrels over there now most have dual passports...I just hope when they say JAIL they mean like 25 years with no parole..

That's what the article says Cods. That the govt. is working on ways to strip sole citizenship.

I would like to think they can't too ... but they are trying, that's the point.

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Reply #4 - May 25^th, 2015 at 3:04pm

mothra wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 2:42pm:

cods wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 2:37pm:

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mothra wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

The Coalition is considering a plan to include those with sole Australian citizenship."

he said JAIL for them.. he cannot take away from someone who was born here.....

but these mongrels over there now most have dual passports...I just hope when they say JAIL they mean like 25 years with no parole..

That's what the article says Cods. That the govt. is working on ways to strip sole citizenship.

I would like to think they can't too ... but they are trying, that's the point.

well they cant have a bet each way... he may mean like me I was British but chose to be Australian and gave up my British passport...

how can you take away someone citizenship....and not make the Stateless???....I mean everyone is born somewhere arent they??...

anyway time will tell...we cant have people going off and fighting with people we have no diplomatic relations with...that would have been treason in another time wouldnt it???

anyway they must have some consequences for their actions....if we want them to be deterred..

I think its really a tough one if you are dealing with young kids of 17 which seem to be the case with a lot of them......

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Reply #5 - May 25^th, 2015 at 3:21pm

cods wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

I think its really a tough one if you are dealing with young kids of 17 which seem to be the case with a lot of them......

"tough one" - my ARSE! codsey-baby.

You girls should never be given jobs as judges, magistrates, law-makers, detention centre staff, prison guards, etc etc where your nurture-and-breast-feed instincts take over from your commonsense where Bad Boys are concerned.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34552 Gender:	Re: The UK is Australia's Crystal Ball to the future Reply #6 - May 25^th, 2015 at 6:42pm Settle down Herbie. Just because i pointed out that poor old Tones put his foot in it again is no reason to accuse me of wanting to breast feed people who've fought for foreign armies. You're just so damn reactionary.
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Reply #7 - May 25^th, 2015 at 7:21pm

Lord Herbert wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 3:21pm:

cods wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 3:04pm:

I think its really a tough one if you are dealing with young kids of 17 which seem to be the case with a lot of them......

"tough one" - my ARSE! codsey-baby.

You girls should never be given jobs as judges, magistrates, law-makers, detention centre staff, prison guards, etc etc where your nurture-and-breast-feed instincts take over from your commonsense where Bad Boys are concerned.

herb I am sure you committed every sin under the sun when you were a lad... and still have a few left to commit and I am sure you either were lucky and never got caught or you were forgiven by a very loving mum.......everyone should have a second chance.. I am not saying they shouldnt be punished.. because some mistakes are beyond forgiveness...but they shouldnt be condemned and the key thrown away...

in most cases.. well thats how I think its not soft...sheeeeeeeeees I made mistakes plenty of them..we all need to learn and hopefully we do....those who repeat offend well.. thats a different kettle

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Reply #8 - May 25^th, 2015 at 7:56pm

cods wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

herb I am sure you committed every sin under the sun when you were a lad... and still have a few left to commit and I am sure you either were lucky and never got caught or you were forgiven by a very loving mum.......everyone should have a second chance.. I am not saying they shouldnt be punished.. because some mistakes are beyond forgiveness...but they shouldnt be condemned and the key thrown away...

in most cases.. well thats how I think its not soft...sheeeeeeeeees I made mistakes plenty of them..we all need to learn and hopefully we do....those who repeat offend well.. thats a different kettle

I didn't do a damn thing wrong, codsey, and that's because my childhood was one long experience of discipline in the home and at the school. My mother didn't drop me in a dark corner somewhere like a dingo in a litter, and then let me run free in the streets as a feral.

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Reply #9 - May 25^th, 2015 at 8:50pm

Lord Herbert wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 7:56pm:

cods wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

herb I am sure you committed every sin under the sun when you were a lad... and still have a few left to commit and I am sure you either were lucky and never got caught or you were forgiven by a very loving mum.......everyone should have a second chance.. I am not saying they shouldnt be punished.. because some mistakes are beyond forgiveness...but they shouldnt be condemned and the key thrown away...

in most cases.. well thats how I think its not soft...sheeeeeeeeees I made mistakes plenty of them..we all need to learn and hopefully we do....those who repeat offend well.. thats a different kettle

I didn't do a damn thing wrong, codsey, and that's because my childhood was one long experience of discipline in the home and at the school. My mother didn't drop me in a dark corner somewhere like a dingo in a litter, and then let me run free in the streets as a feral.

Herbie was too busy flouncing down the street so he could catch the eyes of the neighbourhood gentlemen Cods.

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Reply #11 - May 31^st, 2015 at 8:20am

The UK once again demonstrating it is Australia's Crystal Ball to what the government will do next here ...

Impress your family and friends with your clairvoyant abilities! ... read Britain's Daily Mail ... and then tell your Aussie friends what 'new' initiatives your government is about to embark upon in a few day's time ...

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Needless to say - they don't give us the results of the Questionnaire.

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Reply #12 - May 31^st, 2015 at 2:21pm

Sorry, but AFAIC they are no different to those who went (from all over the
world) to join the International Brigade and other milita groups during the
Spanish Civil War.

Their only enemy was the Spanish, not their own countries.

I doubt many of this lot are much different, when it all comes down to it.

But trust the extreme Right to over-react, as they always do.

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Re: The UK is Australia's Crystal Ball to the future
Reply #13 - May 31^st, 2015 at 11:57pm

mothra wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

"Mr Abbott said it was not the Government's intention to leave people "stateless".

... and:

"The Coalition is considering a plan to include those with sole Australian citizenship."

Poor Tones. Seems he's confused again. If only they'd brief him properly before he opens his mouth.

Would save such embarrassment to the poor thing.

Les Gens Sans Frontieres?

Un Citoyen de la monde!!

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Reply #14 - Jun 1^st, 2015 at 12:04am

mothra wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 2:42pm:

cods wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 2:37pm:

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mothra wrote on May 25^th, 2015 at 2:30pm:

The Coalition is considering a plan to include those with sole Australian citizenship."

he said JAIL for them.. he cannot take away from someone who was born here.....

but these mongrels over there now most have dual passports...I just hope when they say JAIL they mean like 25 years with no parole..

That's what the article says Cods. That the govt. is working on ways to strip sole citizenship.

I would like to think they can't too ... but they are trying, that's the point.

Affirming citizenship/allegiance to a State Without Borders, such as IS, clearly indicates that you have renounced your Australian citizenship.

Even though a State does not issue passports and has no national identity - it is still a State and offering allegiance to it means you are not Stateless if your citizenship of your home country is forfeited.

**Joe Muj at the Immigration Counter**...

"All right, sir - can I see your passport?"

"Um - no - I'm a citizen of the borderless State of IS... a religious fundamental concept similar to the Kingdom of God once espoused by the West.. you see the point?"

"Actually - no.. we don't. In this country you need documentation."

"Will my Australian passport suffice then?"

"Not in your case - it's been cancelled due to your allegiance to a State without borders... sorry! Next plane leaves in five minutes.. be on it!"

(word for today:-

actualloy (n) - an amalgamation of realities....)

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