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Reply #750 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 2:48pm
 
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Every news article on the story says the exact opposite: the council allocated a muslim-only plot in 2011, then mistakenly assigned a non-muslim to the plot early last year - a mistake the council acknowledged but were powerless to do anything about. All explained in the reports. There is no shred of evidence for your version of events.



I refer you to my previous: Reply #735 - Jan 9th, 2016 at 4:05pm

Which says in part:

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. They were then shocked to discover, during a visit to his graveyard last month, that a new grave next to his was being created for Mr Smith.

Mrs Ahmad said: "We were unaware someone not of the Muslim faith could also be buried there because of what they had said. "

The family then alerted the council to the conversation from 2011, in which they apparently allocated the area as a Muslim burial place and asked them to take action prior to Mr Smith's funeral.


This link of your says the muslims were shocked to discover that a non muslim was going to be buried next to a muslims grave. The muslims asked the council to take action prior to the Gypsies's funeral. The other two links provided by you give roughly the same account.

Now in my Reply #733 - Jan 8th, 2016 at 3:25pm:

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Shadrack Smith was buried at the Lychgate Lane cemetery after a traditional Romany funeral on Friday .

His family brought three plots they picked which faced his home at Aston Firs – a tradition in Romany culture.

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we had a call last Monday at 5.45pm from Julie Perrin at the parish council asking us if we could move plots.

“We said no – we bought the land and it was too late to find another plot.


It appears to me the only people mistaken here are the muslims.

The Gypsies purchased three plots all fair square and above board.

The council legally sold three plots.

The muslims find out the council sold these plots next to the muslim grave and complain.

E.G. muslim prejudice and victimhood rising it head once again.

If the muslims were in the right you and I both know the council and the Gypsies would have been fed to the lions, the gypsie grave would have been removed, the council sued for it's wrongful actions.

But nothing of the kind happened, why?

Because the muzzies were in the wrong. The muslims quote a 2011 conversation and hearsay as the basis of their prejudice against the dead non believer.
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Re: islam exposed by muslims
Reply #751 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 3:39pm
 
moses wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 2:48pm:
This link of your says the muslims were shocked to discover that a non muslim was going to be buried next to a muslims grave. The muslims asked the council to take action prior to the Gypsies's funeral.


ummm yes... and?

this is moses:

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Reply #752 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 4:00pm
 
Council all legal and in the clear.

Gypsies all legal and in the clear.

muslims shocked and complaining wanting Gypsies and council to disrupt funeral arrangements, in order to fit in with muslim predjudice against non muslim dead.
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Reply #753 - Jan 11th, 2016 at 5:38pm
 
Porkies are central to the anti-Muselman campaign. Just ask FD.
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Reply #754 - Jan 12th, 2016 at 1:52pm
 
Yes.

islam is a religion of peace.

muhammad was not a pedophile.

muhammad slept with the corpse of his aunty and he's the best of all examples.

islamic terrorists are not muslims.

It's not rape of little girls under the guise of legal child marriage.

It's all in Arabic it doesn't mean what it says.

It's all the Joo's fault.

And America and the west's fault.

etc. etc. etc.

How am I going going?
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Reply #755 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 11:51am
 
moses wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 1:52pm:
Yes.

islam is a religion of peace.

muhammad was not a pedophile.

muhammad slept with the corpse of his aunty and he's the best of all examples.

islamic terrorists are not muslims.

It's not rape of little girls under the guise of legal child marriage.

It's all in Arabic it doesn't mean what it says.

It's all the Joo's fault.

And America and the west's fault.

etc. etc. etc.

How am I going going?


So why the need to invent porkies like muslims demanding a corpse be exhumed?
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Reply #756 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 1:47pm
 
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So why the need to invent porkies like muslims demanding a corpse be exhumed?


It's already been established that the exhumation claim was a false report.

The muslims complained pre burial about a non muslim being interred near a muslim.

The muslim's objection was unsuccessful as the Gypsies had indeed purchased three plots of ground from the council.

A legitimate and legal transaction as it turns out.

It's just a story which shows that islamic prejudice and intolerance extends even to the dead.
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Reply #757 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 3:34pm
 
moses wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 1:47pm:
It's already been established that the exhumation claim was a false report.


Correct. Someone made it up, why did they? This is not an isolated incident. The anti-muslim campaign is based heavily on lies.
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Reply #758 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 3:05pm
 
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Correct. Someone made it up, why did they? This is not an isolated incident. The anti-muslim campaign is based heavily on lies.


The anti muslim campaign is based solely on the fact that islam is an evil entity.

As evidenced by the scale of unspeakably inhumane atrocities being carried out by muslims against their fellow man, in accordance with the tenets of islam.

As demonstrated by the fact that this depraved islamic inhumanity can be and is, justified by the teachings of muhammad, the commands of allah, the verses in the qur'an.

Every muslim on this earth cites these teachings, commands and verses as being the final and immutable word of the satanic allah.

Therefore all muslims fully support the root cause of islamic heinousness, if you support the root cause you then by definition support the barbarity engendered.

muslims are proving beyond doubt, right around the globe, that islam is not compatible with a modern civilized 21st century society.

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Reply #759 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 5:06pm
 
you didn't answer the question moses. Why did someone feel the need to invent the porky about muslims demanding an exhumation? Maybe they thought the spin you are putting on it wasn't enough?
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Reply #760 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:37pm
 
I have  no idea why the original article used the words exhumation dishonestly.

However not one person is trying to hide this discrepancy, it has freely been acknowledged as being wrong and inaccurate.

It is now quiet honestly being portrayed as a report which details the facts as they happened:

The council legally sold three plots to a Gypsy family.

Upon learning that a Gypsy was to buried near a muslim, the muslims complained and unsuccessfully tried to have the burial interfered with, (moving the Gypsies to another location).

The moral of the whole shebang is:

Council and Gypsies acted lawfully and decently in a time of family calamity.

muslims showed their prejudice and intolerance extends even to the dead.
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Reply #761 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:44pm
 
moses wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 6:37pm:
it has freely been acknowledged as being wrong and inaccurate.


Not by all the right wing and Islamophobic sites that ran amuck with the headline. Go see for yourself - do a google search on muslim demand grave exhumed, and see how many sites are still running with the headline as the basis for their usual bigoted hysterics.

See thats how propaganda works - you make up a story that will create the desired emotion. It then doesn't matter if the story is exposed as a fabrication, once the desired emotive response is generated, it can't easily be undone, and most affected people will simply ignore the correction. Politicians do it all the time.
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Reply #762 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:14pm
 
You're running away from the issue Gandalf.

The thing is why did the muslims show prejudice and intolerance towards a dead non muslim?

The whole thing was started by muslim bigotry and intolerance, being extended towards the dead of a non muslim.

Why didn't the muslims keep their mouth shut let the Gypsy be buried near them, then continue on with future muslim burials in the ongoing neighbouring plots?

Because the upshot is, that's what has happened, The gypsy is interred, the muzzies can continue past him, but muslim whining bigotry against the dead non muslims got exposed as well.

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Reply #763 - Jan 14th, 2016 at 11:35pm
 

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TERROR has returned to the heart of Jakarta, with grenades and crude homemade bombs used to stage a Paris-style attack in a busy business and shopping district in the Indonesian capital that has left seven dead.

Wild gun battles between police and holed-up terrorists carried on through the day after the first explosion hit a Starbucks outlet shortly after 10.30am near the Sarinah shopping mall.

Indonesia’s minister for Politics, Legal, and Security affairs, Luhut Binsar Panjaitan, said after visiting the scene: “Five terrorists died, two civilians died, one of them a foreign national and one is Indonesian.”

The foreign national is reported to be a Canadian man who was shot in the carpark of Starbucks, the US-owned coffee shop franchise, located on a busy central Jakarta intersection and at the epicentre of the attacks.

Police said 20 people have been injured, some are critical, including a Dutch foreigner.

The brutal mid-morning assault involving what Indonesian authorities say was five grenade detonations took place only two kilometres from the Presidential Palace of Joko “Jokowi” Widodo, who visited the scene late in the day.

He has been to visit the scene of the terror attack.
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Mr Panjaitan said the first explosion went off inside the Starbucks shortly after 10.30am.

According to a contact at the scene, a security guard had alerted police that three men were acting strangely inside the Starbucks.

As the men were escorted over to a small police post at a nearby intersection, a blast went off inside Starbucks. The three terrorists then tried to blow themselves up, along with the police post.

Two were killed by their own grenades, the other by police bullets.

Shortly after, there was by many accounts another explosion near the United Nations headquarters, several hundred metres away, but it now appears all explosions and shootings were concentrated in the Starbucks area.

While returned Islamic State fighters are the likely suspects, it has not claimed direct responsibility.
Smoke billows ... from an explosion in Jakarta. Suicide bombers exploded themselves while gunmen attacked a police post nearby.

But a news agency allied to the Islamic State has already reported they carried out the attacks.

“Islamic State fighters carried out an armed attack this morning targeting foreign nationals and the security forces charged with protecting them in the Indonesian capital,” Aamaaq news agency said on its Telegram channel.

These insurgents are linked to ISIS and to convicted extremist Abu Bakar Bashir, who the day before the Jakarta strikes launched a legal review against his 15-year sentence for funding terrorist training camp in Aceh, in northern Sumatra, in 2010.

Bashir, jailed and later of acquitted over his conviction for supporting the 2002 Bali bombings, last year pledged allegiance to the Islamic State from his cell in the prison island of Nusakambangan.

Indonesian police were seen firing handguns into the Starbucks and had the building surrounded throughout the afternoon, with some reports that more attackers were holed up either in Starbucks or a neighbouring cinema complex.


Police spokesman Anton Charliyan said grenades rather than suicide vests were used, indicating this was a military-style operation that did not require detailed planning or bomb preparation.

Mr Charliyan said “one or two” of the attackers may have escaped into the city, but other reports suggested a number of terrorists were bunkered down an


more muslim murderers

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/world/jakarta-rocked-by-multiple-explosions/n...
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Reply #764 - Jan 15th, 2016 at 12:45am
 
moses wrote on Jan 14th, 2016 at 7:14pm:
You're running away from the issue Gandalf.

The thing is why did the muslims show prejudice and intolerance towards a dead non muslim?

The whole thing was started by muslim bigotry and intolerance, being extended towards the dead of a non muslim.

Why didn't the muslims keep their mouth shut let the Gypsy be buried near them, then continue on with future muslim burials in the ongoing neighbouring plots?

Because the upshot is, that's what has happened, The gypsy is interred, the muzzies can continue past him, but muslim whining bigotry against the dead non muslims got exposed as well.



See moses? You put a good spin on it. Surely thats adequate propaganda against the musselman.

Why, in your view, did someone feel the need to make a porky about the muslims - on top of this seemingly already incriminating story?

In case you hadn't noticed, I'm trying to get to the bottom of this strange and seemingly inseparable relationship between porkies and attacking Islam. I'd be interested in your view - without the need to continually repeat your version of events, if you could.
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