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Re: islam exposed by muslims
Reply #630 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:31pm

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:16pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 5:51pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

What I believe or don't believe is neither here nor there. It is still true that sharia and secular liberal democracy are irreconcilable because by definition they mean opposite things.
It is a logical statement, not a political one.

You keep making this claim, Soren but you present no proof! How about you PROVE that they mean opposite things? Demonstrate to us how they are opposites, please, rather than just endlessly repeating your slogans and expecting us to accept them! Roll Eyes

I have shown you how they are, by definition, irreconcilable.

I even used large font, yet you still missed it.

Soren wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2015 at 11:06pm:

The proof I offer is that sharia and secularism are, by definition, opposing things. Sharia and liberalism are, again by definition, opposing things. You cannot be both bound by Islamic law and be free from Islamic law.

Sharia means Islamic religious law. Secular means unconnected to any religion. SO you cannot be both observant of religious law and unconnected to any religion.

Only a total prat like you would actually believe that paradoxes, such as a secular, sharia observant Muslim, are possible.

But you haven't provided a definition which we can all agree on, Soren. Roll Eyes

^^^^

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/learner/sharia

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/secular

And your definition of Liberalism, Soren? Roll Eyes

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Re: islam exposed by muslims
Reply #631 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:48pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:16pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 5:51pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

What I believe or don't believe is neither here nor there. It is still true that sharia and secular liberal democracy are irreconcilable because by definition they mean opposite things.
It is a logical statement, not a political one.

You keep making this claim, Soren but you present no proof! How about you PROVE that they mean opposite things? Demonstrate to us how they are opposites, please, rather than just endlessly repeating your slogans and expecting us to accept them! Roll Eyes

I have shown you how they are, by definition, irreconcilable.

I even used large font, yet you still missed it.

Soren wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2015 at 11:06pm:

The proof I offer is that sharia and secularism are, by definition, opposing things. Sharia and liberalism are, again by definition, opposing things. You cannot be both bound by Islamic law and be free from Islamic law.

Sharia means Islamic religious law. Secular means unconnected to any religion. SO you cannot be both observant of religious law and unconnected to any religion.

Only a total prat like you would actually believe that paradoxes, such as a secular, sharia observant Muslim, are possible.

But you haven't provided a definition which we can all agree on, Soren. Roll Eyes

^^^^

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/learner/sharia

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/secular

And your definition of Liberalism, Soren? Roll Eyes

The antonym of sharia. Yours? Don't tell me your definition of liberalism means sharia law.

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Re: islam exposed by muslims
Reply #632 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:54pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:17pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 10:29am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

I wonder if you consider yourself a liberal (with a small "l"), Soren? Do you see your Xenophobia/Islamophobia/Homophobia/any-other-phobia as compatible with the ideals of modern, Secular, Liberal Democratic thought? Roll Eyes

And you imagine yourself a 'liberal', open-minded man - even though your reflex is to label any and all different views as phobias.

No, I label those who suffer from these phobias as being phobic, Soren. I question and listen to their answers and make my mind up on evidence. You, just make your mind up. Roll Eyes

So nobody can oppose a view except phobics. One either agrees with you - or one is a phobic.

And you wonder why you are the Rousseau (ie. a compulsive onanist) of Ozpolitic.

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Re: islam exposed by muslims
Reply #633 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 6:15pm

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:16pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 5:51pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

What I believe or don't believe is neither here nor there. It is still true that sharia and secular liberal democracy are irreconcilable because by definition they mean opposite things.
It is a logical statement, not a political one.

You keep making this claim, Soren but you present no proof! How about you PROVE that they mean opposite things? Demonstrate to us how they are opposites, please, rather than just endlessly repeating your slogans and expecting us to accept them! Roll Eyes

I have shown you how they are, by definition, irreconcilable.

I even used large font, yet you still missed it.

Soren wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2015 at 11:06pm:

The proof I offer is that sharia and secularism are, by definition, opposing things. Sharia and liberalism are, again by definition, opposing things. You cannot be both bound by Islamic law and be free from Islamic law.

Sharia means Islamic religious law. Secular means unconnected to any religion. SO you cannot be both observant of religious law and unconnected to any religion.

Only a total prat like you would actually believe that paradoxes, such as a secular, sharia observant Muslim, are possible.

But you haven't provided a definition which we can all agree on, Soren. Roll Eyes

^^^^

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/learner/sharia

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/secular

And your definition of Liberalism, Soren? Roll Eyes

The antonym of sharia. Yours? Don't tell me your definition of liberalism means sharia law.

You mean bans, beards, beheadings, bombings?

Sounds like old boy law to me.

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Re: islam exposed by muslims
Reply #634 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:14pm

Big Donger wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 6:15pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:16pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 5:51pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

What I believe or don't believe is neither here nor there. It is still true that sharia and secular liberal democracy are irreconcilable because by definition they mean opposite things.
It is a logical statement, not a political one.

You keep making this claim, Soren but you present no proof! How about you PROVE that they mean opposite things? Demonstrate to us how they are opposites, please, rather than just endlessly repeating your slogans and expecting us to accept them! Roll Eyes

I have shown you how they are, by definition, irreconcilable.

I even used large font, yet you still missed it.

Soren wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2015 at 11:06pm:

The proof I offer is that sharia and secularism are, by definition, opposing things. Sharia and liberalism are, again by definition, opposing things. You cannot be both bound by Islamic law and be free from Islamic law.

Sharia means Islamic religious law. Secular means unconnected to any religion. SO you cannot be both observant of religious law and unconnected to any religion.

Only a total prat like you would actually believe that paradoxes, such as a secular, sharia observant Muslim, are possible.

But you haven't provided a definition which we can all agree on, Soren. Roll Eyes

^^^^

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/learner/sharia

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/secular

And your definition of Liberalism, Soren? Roll Eyes

The antonym of sharia. Yours? Don't tell me your definition of liberalism means sharia law.

You mean bans, beards, beheadings, bombings?

Sounds like old boy law to me.

What is your definition of sharia, then, idiot?

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Re: islam exposed by muslims
Reply #635 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:26pm

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:17pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 10:29am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

I wonder if you consider yourself a liberal (with a small "l"), Soren? Do you see your Xenophobia/Islamophobia/Homophobia/any-other-phobia as compatible with the ideals of modern, Secular, Liberal Democratic thought? Roll Eyes

And you imagine yourself a 'liberal', open-minded man - even though your reflex is to label any and all different views as phobias.

No, I label those who suffer from these phobias as being phobic, Soren. I question and listen to their answers and make my mind up on evidence. You, just make your mind up. Roll Eyes

So nobody can oppose a view except phobics. One either agrees with you - or one is a phobic.

Nope. You can disagree, if you present a case based on rational thought, rather than your usual fear and loathing based around Xenophobia/Islamophobia/Homophobia/etc., Soren. Roll Eyes

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And you wonder why you are the Rousseau (ie. a compulsive onanist) of Ozpolitic.

Now, now, Soren, who introduced the verb "fapping" to us? Roll Eyes

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LifeOrDeath Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1548	Re: islam exposed by muslims Reply #636 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:48pm
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Re: islam exposed by muslims
Reply #639 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 8:20pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:26pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:17pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 10:29am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

I wonder if you consider yourself a liberal (with a small "l"), Soren? Do you see your Xenophobia/Islamophobia/Homophobia/any-other-phobia as compatible with the ideals of modern, Secular, Liberal Democratic thought? Roll Eyes

And you imagine yourself a 'liberal', open-minded man - even though your reflex is to label any and all different views as phobias.

No, I label those who suffer from these phobias as being phobic, Soren. I question and listen to their answers and make my mind up on evidence. You, just make your mind up. Roll Eyes

So nobody can oppose a view except phobics. One either agrees with you - or one is a phobic.

Nope. You can disagree, if you present a case based on rational thought,

You wouldn't recognise rational thought if it was up you to the hilt, Brain!! You and rational thought have been estranged enemies for a long time. You are the enemy of reason, Brain, defender of PC pieties and semantic distractions.

You even ask for a definition of the most basic concepts because your schtick is to object to common sense. You think it makes you rational but it just shows what an apparatchik of blind PC obedience you are.

You know that sharia law and secularism are incompatible, yet you are arguing the toss over definition - as if you would accept a dictionary definition that doesn't support your idiotic agenda to present sharia Islam as indistinguishable from secular liberal democracy.

All you can EVER do is pout and say 'what is your definition that I can accept'.

You are stupid and that is your weapon. Nobody can meet you at your level of stupidity. So you will forever be able to demand that people meet you at your level of idiocy. We will always fail.

And you think that you are thereby triumphant, you sad little fapper.

Wink

But you don't understand any of this.i

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Re: islam exposed by muslims
Reply #640 - Sep 27^th, 2015 at 8:28pm

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 8:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:26pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:17pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 10:29am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

I wonder if you consider yourself a liberal (with a small "l"), Soren? Do you see your Xenophobia/Islamophobia/Homophobia/any-other-phobia as compatible with the ideals of modern, Secular, Liberal Democratic thought? Roll Eyes

And you imagine yourself a 'liberal', open-minded man - even though your reflex is to label any and all different views as phobias.

No, I label those who suffer from these phobias as being phobic, Soren. I question and listen to their answers and make my mind up on evidence. You, just make your mind up. Roll Eyes

So nobody can oppose a view except phobics. One either agrees with you - or one is a phobic.

Nope. You can disagree, if you present a case based on rational thought,

You wouldn't recognise rational thought if it was up you to the hilt, Brain!! You and rational thought have been estranged enemies for a long time. You are the enemy of reason, Brain, defender of PC pieties and semantic distractions.

You even ask for a definition of the most basic concepts because your schtick is to object to common sense. You think it makes you rational but it just shows what an apparatchik of blind PC obedience you are.

You know that sharia law and secularism are incompatible, yet you are arguing the toss over definition - as if you would accept a dictionary definition that doesn't support your idiotic agenda to present sharia Islam as indistinguishable from secular liberal democracy.

All you can EVER do is pout and say 'what is your definition that I can accept'.

You are stupid and that is your weapon. Nobody can meet you at your level of stupidity. So you will forever be able to demand that people meet you at your level of idiocy. We will always fail.

And you think that you are thereby triumphant, you sad little fapper.

Wink

But you don't understand any of this.i

Nice one.

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Re: islam exposed by muslims
Reply #641 - Sep 28^th, 2015 at 12:20am

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 8:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:26pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:17pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 10:29am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

I wonder if you consider yourself a liberal (with a small "l"), Soren? Do you see your Xenophobia/Islamophobia/Homophobia/any-other-phobia as compatible with the ideals of modern, Secular, Liberal Democratic thought? Roll Eyes

And you imagine yourself a 'liberal', open-minded man - even though your reflex is to label any and all different views as phobias.

No, I label those who suffer from these phobias as being phobic, Soren. I question and listen to their answers and make my mind up on evidence. You, just make your mind up. Roll Eyes

So nobody can oppose a view except phobics. One either agrees with you - or one is a phobic.

Nope. You can disagree, if you present a case based on rational thought,

You wouldn't recognise rational thought if it was up you to the hilt, Brain!! You and rational thought have been estranged enemies for a long time. You are the enemy of reason, Brain, defender of PC pieties and semantic distractions.

You even ask for a definition of the most basic concepts because your schtick is to object to common sense. You think it makes you rational but it just shows what an apparatchik of blind PC obedience you are.

You know that sharia law and secularism are incompatible, yet you are arguing the toss over definition - as if you would accept a dictionary definition that doesn't support your idiotic agenda to present sharia Islam as indistinguishable from secular liberal democracy.

All you can EVER do is pout and say 'what is your definition that I can accept'.

You are stupid and that is your weapon. Nobody can meet you at your level of stupidity. So you will forever be able to demand that people meet you at your level of idiocy. We will always fail.

And you think that you are thereby triumphant, you sad little fapper.

Wink

But you don't understand any of this.

Still waiting on that definition, Soren. You know, what is Liberalism? I suspect you'll continue to dissemble, rant, rave and insult, rather than answer the question. It's just your never ever tactics... Roll Eyes

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Re: islam exposed by muslims
Reply #644 - Sep 28^th, 2015 at 1:07am

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 7:14pm:

Big Donger wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 6:15pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:48pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 4:16pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 10:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 5:51pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 26^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

What I believe or don't believe is neither here nor there. It is still true that sharia and secular liberal democracy are irreconcilable because by definition they mean opposite things.
It is a logical statement, not a political one.

You keep making this claim, Soren but you present no proof! How about you PROVE that they mean opposite things? Demonstrate to us how they are opposites, please, rather than just endlessly repeating your slogans and expecting us to accept them! Roll Eyes

I have shown you how they are, by definition, irreconcilable.

I even used large font, yet you still missed it.

Soren wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2015 at 11:06pm:

The proof I offer is that sharia and secularism are, by definition, opposing things. Sharia and liberalism are, again by definition, opposing things. You cannot be both bound by Islamic law and be free from Islamic law.

Sharia means Islamic religious law. Secular means unconnected to any religion. SO you cannot be both observant of religious law and unconnected to any religion.

Only a total prat like you would actually believe that paradoxes, such as a secular, sharia observant Muslim, are possible.

But you haven't provided a definition which we can all agree on, Soren. Roll Eyes

^^^^

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/learner/sharia

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/secular

And your definition of Liberalism, Soren? Roll Eyes

The antonym of sharia. Yours? Don't tell me your definition of liberalism means sharia law.

You mean bans, beards, beheadings, bombings?

Sounds like old boy law to me.

What is your definition of sharia, then, idiot?

Oh, I’d say it’s anything that gets you off the subject of liberalism, wouldn’t you?

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