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Reply #525 - Sep 5th, 2015 at 9:20pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 8:39pm:
Soren appears to believe that the Assad regime and the YPG are actually Islamic fronts, G.  Not sure why, except to him, anything and everything smacks of Islamophobia, except of course his Homophobia, racism and Xenophobia.  Quite a lot of phobias you've got there, Soren!  Are you aiming for the record book?    Roll Eyes


You are a proud bigot and race and religion-baiter, Brain. Disgusting.



The 'secularists' are not fighting each other, primarily, but Islamic forces - Hezb'allah, ISIL, Al Nusra and a score of other jihadists. Nevertheless, there is a clear sectarian dimension to all the 'secularist' players.

There are no shias and sunnis fighting side by side. The battle fronts are drawn along sectarian lines even if some, like the Syrian government, is talking in non-religious terms.

Your attempt to airbrush the massive camel in the room - Muslim sectarian conflict - is nonsensical. As nonsensical, at least, as if I argued that the Thirty Years war had niffin' to wiv Christianity.

I don't quite understand why Muslims like you are forever trying to explain away the importance of Islam when you are behaving badly but praise it to the sky as the good oil when you do good. It's a religion with particularly nasty teaching. Just because millions of Muslims are not acting in accordance with its nastier dictates doesn't mean that those who do have nuffin to do wiv Islam.
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Reply #526 - Sep 5th, 2015 at 9:24pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 8:39pm:
Soren appears to believe that the Assad regime and the YPG are actually Islamic fronts, G.  Not sure why, except to him, anything and everything smacks of Islamophobia, except of course his Homophobia, racism and Xenophobia.  Quite a lot of phobias you've got there, Soren!  Are you aiming for the record book?    Roll Eyes


I think so, Brain.

Soren wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 9:20pm:
Disgusting.

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Reply #527 - Sep 5th, 2015 at 9:41pm
 
Soren wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 9:20pm:
There are no shias and sunnis fighting side by side.


Except in Iraq...   Roll Eyes
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It seems that I have upset a Moderator and are forbidden from using posting to the general forum now. So much for Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #528 - Sep 6th, 2015 at 8:15am
 
Soren wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 8:11pm:
"Both the Syrian Arab Army and the YPG are fighting for secular regimes, not Islamic causes. Get it???"

You offered this gem as the gist of your meaning 5 minutes ago.


Yes I did.

If secularists in the ME are specifically fighting against islamisation - that makes Islam front and centre of the conflict - are you following yet?

This was originally about you mocking me for claiming that the 'kuffar, non-kuffar' dynamic was central to this conflict. In terms of the battle both the Syrian regime and the YPG are fighting against the Islamists - this is exactly what this is about.

Please spend some time to reflect on this exceedingly simple point before you go shooting your mouth off again with nonsense.
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #529 - Sep 6th, 2015 at 11:25am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6th, 2015 at 8:15am:
Soren wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 8:11pm:
"Both the Syrian Arab Army and the YPG are fighting for secular regimes, not Islamic causes. Get it???"

You offered this gem as the gist of your meaning 5 minutes ago.


Yes I did.

If secularists in the ME are specifically fighting against islamisation - that makes Islam front and centre of the conflict - are you following yet?

This was originally about you mocking me for claiming that the 'kuffar, non-kuffar' dynamic was central to this conflict. In terms of the battle both the Syrian regime and the YPG are fighting against the Islamists - this is exactly what this is about.

Please spend some time to reflect on this exceedingly simple point before you go shooting your mouth off again with nonsense.

As I said, "Nevertheless, there is a clear sectarian dimension to all the 'secularist' players."

Reflect on that.

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Reply #530 - Sep 6th, 2015 at 11:32am
 
well no schit sherlock  Roll Eyes
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #531 - Sep 6th, 2015 at 9:26pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6th, 2015 at 11:32am:
well no schit sherlock  Roll Eyes

You must be a gold fish, Gandy - you don't seem to remember what you were saying most vehemently at your previous turn in the fish bowl:
No religious dimension to the conflict because the main players are secularists.
Then there is a religious dimension because they are fighting religious factions.
Then you concede that even the secularists have a sectarian (religious) dimension.

It's like the ring of hundreds of protective Muslim around a synagogue that turned out to be  neither Muslim, nor protective, nor a ring nor hundreds. c
Everything you insist on is true except the details of whatever you say.



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Reply #532 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 12:36pm
 
Soren wrote on Sep 6th, 2015 at 9:26pm:
You must be a gold fish, Gandy - you don't seem to remember what you were saying most vehemently at your previous turn in the fish bowl:
No religious dimension to the conflict because the main players are secularists.


Rubbish. Quote me.
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Reply #533 - Sep 10th, 2015 at 10:07am
 

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HE WAS one of Islamic State’s top commanders who captured women in terrifying conditions and forced them to have sex with his depraved fighters.

But it seems one of his captives has exacted their bloody revenge.

It has emerged the senior commander, known only by his nom de guerre Abu Anas, was murdered on Saturday by an unidentified Iraqi woman he kept as a sex slave.
   
Kurdistan Democratic Party spokesman Saeed Mamouzini told Iraqi television network al-Sumaria that the woman shot Anas dead in Iraq’s Tal Roman district, three months after she had been forced to sex slavery. He said the woman was married off to several of Anas’s fighters as a sick “gift”.

It comes as more details emerge of IS’s use of rape as a weapon of power and cruelty against its captives.

It is not known what happened to the woman, who is believed to be a member of the Yazidi-Kurdish minority.

The Yazidis are a religious minority in Syria and Iraq that is targeted by IS. A total of 5270 Yazidis were abducted by IS last year, and more than 3000 are still in their grip, according to figures within the community.

‘WE ASK YOU TO RAPE’

News of the commander’s death comes as Hollywood actor Angelina Jolie said IS dictated mass rape as official policy, the kind of which was “beyond what we have seen before”.

Jolie, a United Nations special envoy, was giving evidence at a Lords committee hearing on sexual violence in conflict zones.

“It’s not sexual, it is a violent, brutal terrorising weapon,” she told the committee.

“The most aggressive terrorist group in the world today knows what we know, knows that it is a very effective weapon and they are using it as a centre point of their terror and their way of destroying communities and families, and attacking and dehumanising.”

She said IS explicitly told its fighters: “We ask you to rape.”

“They are saying, ‘You should do this, this is the way to build a society’,” Jolie said.

The star, who has campaigned for a decade against the use of rape in war, recalled meeting girls as young as seven who had been brutally raped in war zones.

“I remember distinctly meeting this little girl who was very young, perhaps seven or eight, and she was rocking back and forward staring at the wall and tears streaming down her face because she had been brutally raped multiple times,” Jolie said.

“You couldn’t talk to her, you could touch her. I felt absolutely helpless and didn’t know what to do for her.

“More recently, I met a 13-year-old girl in Iraq who had been kept in a room with many other girls. They were taken out in twos, brought to this very dirty room with this dirty couch and raped repeatedly.

“They told me what was even worse than this physical violence was they had to stand in rooms and watch their friends be sold.

“To hear men arguing over what they were worth. Were they worth $40, $50? What was the price, their value? And how humiliating that was.”

Jolie appeared at the committee at the UK House of Parliament alongside former Foreign Secretary William Hague, with whom she co-founded Preventing Sexual Violence Initiative, which campaigns for the victims of rape in war zones.

She praised British government for taking a lead on the issue but urged for a “very strong response” to IS in Iraq and Syria.

ISLAMIC STATE’S SEX HANDBOOK

This week Human Rights Watch (HWR) executive director Kenneth Roth revealed that IS has circulated a chilling “pamphlet” that outlines rules about having sex with enslaved women who are not Muslim, including girls and young women from the Yazidi community.

The pamphlet, which is available on Twitter, has been translated and republished on the HRW website.

Set out in a question-and-answer format,
the document uses passages from the Koran to justify rape, and recommends that if the female captive is a virgin, her master “can have intercourse with her immediately after taking possession of her”.


“However,” the pamphlet continues, “if she isn’t, her uterus must be purified (first).”

Roth said that by treating captured non-Muslim women as subject to the sexual whims of those who control them, “ISIS disregards nearly universal injunctions against slavery and rape”.

Previous reports by HRW have outlined the horrifying system of organised rape, sexual slavery and forced marriage inflicted on Yazidi girls and women held captive by IS.

Earlier this year HRW interviewed 20 girls and young women who escaped from IS and suffered “unimaginable trauma” from their ordeals.



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islam is the death rape cult.
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Reply #534 - Sep 16th, 2015 at 8:57pm
 

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A DOCTOR told his eight-year-old daughter that an alleged genital mutilation procedure that she underwent was just a “check up,” a court has heard.

A jury was on Wednesday played a secret recording of the conversation between the father and his daughter at the first trial for female genital mutilation in NSW.

The recording was from a police bug that was placed in the father’s car just after the girl had told police in an interview that she and her little sister had been cut in their “private parts”.

“Nothing was cut of yours,” the father told the daughter, “we don’t do the cutting, we can’t cut it here.”

“Yes, once they asked for scissors, I saw scissors, they do something with scissors,” the girl replied.

“Not with scissors they do forceps,” her father said. “Forceps is used for cleaning purpose, to check up.”

The girl, now 11, gave evidence at the trial of her mother, 38, who has pleaded not guilty to arranging the genital mutilation of her daughters.

Her co-accused is a retired midwife, 71, who has pleaded not guilty to carrying out the procedures at two homes in Wollongong and Baulkham Hills in Sydney’s north west some time between October 2009 and August 2012.

Sheik Shabbir Mohammedbhai Vaziri, who is a high-ranking religious leader from the Islamic sect Dawoodi Bohra, has pleaded not guilty to being an accessory after the fact to female genital mutilation.

Under cross examination by barrister Stuart Bouveng the girl said the pain during the procedure, “did not last long”.

“It was like a pinching or a cutting I’m not sure,” she said.

But when Crown prosecutor Nanette Williams asked her to clarify what it had felt like the girl said she was most likely cut.

“I’m not completely sure if it was a cut although it was most likely it was cutting, I remember a sort of pinching, I don’t really know though.”

The jury was also played the girl’s interview with police in which she said her mother had told her not to talk about the procedure called ‘Khatna’ which she said was done to all seven-year-old girls in Dawoodi Bohra.

“I’m not used to talking about it because my mum tells me not to go around telling everyone that much,” she said.

The girl’s younger sister, now aged nine, is giving evidence on Thursday.


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Reply #535 - Sep 17th, 2015 at 1:45pm
 
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RAHAL Dergham understands the Syrian refugee crisis better than just about anyone else in Australia.

When the Sydney Catholic priest arrived from Syria almost eight years ago, he says he left a country that was “moving forward”. In his home town of Hama, the young clergyman freely held masses, his family worked happily and worshipped freely, and the children went to school for a decent and compulsory education.

Now, he says, it’s a completely different place. Every time he speaks to his family or friends who are still there or have recently fled, or even when he checks up on how the conflict is progressing online, there are some terrifying reminders of how bad it’s become.

This is what Syrian asylum seekers are faced with... police fired at least 20 tear gas grenades into the crowd of Syrians and protesters.

“He was a peaceful man, a kind man,” Father Dergham says of his close friend and former colleague Father Francois Murad.

“They taped it when they decapitated him and posted the video on YouTube. We saw it even before the media started talking about it. Now whenever you search Syrian crisis or anything about Christian persecution, you will see him.”

The 33-year-old has seen, heard of, and counselled his friends over more atrocities than any man his age should have encountered.

There’s the time a teenager from his town was tortured and murdered trying to visit his family at Christmas.

“One of the last ones we lost was a young man, he was about 18,” he says.

“He was not even armed. He had run away from the compulsory army service and was working in Lebanon but he was smuggled back to the country to be with his family on Christmas Day.

“At the checkpoint they, ISIS, found him and took him from the car. They took him out and they beat him and he was killed. His family didn’t get to see him for Christmas Day but they did see him again.”

When the parents of that young man saw him again, Father Dergham explains, his body had been delivered to them in a plastic bag, chopped into pieces.

“We’ve received many of our people in parts,” he says.

Like the time a taxi driver the young priest used to work with was returned to his family.

“He disappeared and they found his taxi on the side of the street and we never heard of him for three months,” he says.

“He was rich so they asked his family for a lot of money to have him returned. The family paid but still he was killed. He was returned though, in a plastic bag. They received his decapitated body. He had been tortured.”

He describes bodies found in shallow graves cut up into pieces and piled on top of each other. Men held captive working as slaves and being fed only a piece of cheese or a chunk of bread each day, and women sold as sex slaves.

Father Dergham described more atrocities than can be listed here, and many too distressing to publish. But he says people need to know about the reality of what is going on in Syria to understand that the people there just need leave.

“The situation in Syria is now nearly unbearable and that’s why people are leaving,” he says.

“They are leaving in masses and probably no one will stay, even in the safe areas because they will no longer be safe. Anyone, any Christian who is still there lives in constant fear and they are right to be in fear.”

Since the civil war and the infiltration of ISIS, Father Dergham says everyone he knows who was happy in Syria has left or is trying to since their cities have been taken over.

They make up some of the 4.1 million Syrians fleeing their homeland after more than four years of civil war, making it the worst refugee crisis the world has seen since the genocide of Rwanda.


Their desperation and the reality of their journey has been revealed today in the faces of children in Hungary, sprayed with tear gas as they try to cross the border into Hungary.

On Monday, 10,000 migrants crossed the Hungary Serbia border. Their treatment by protesters and police have angered human rights groups, but also serve to show the reality of Syrians’ struggles.

Former prime minister Tony Abbott last week began discussions about resettling 12,000 refugees from the conflict in Syria and Iraq.

When Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull took the top job earlier this week, he praised Mr Abbott for his generosity towards Syrian refugees, but he’ll now likely be under pressure to take more.

The US is looking to resettle at least 10,000 refugees Syrian refugees — a marked increase to the 1800 it has taken in since the conflict erupted.

European countries have been praised for their willingness to accept asylum seekers, with Germany saying it is prepared to take up to 800,000 asylum seekers entering its country this year.



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        European countries have been praised for their willingness to accept asylum seekers, with Germany saying it is prepared to take up to 800,000 asylum seekers entering its country this year.

Father Dergham says he would like to see Australia take in “many thousands of Syrian people”.

“I feel sad because I don’t think Australians would like to leave refugees with no choice,” he says.

“I would like to see Australia take many thousands, I know that they are pushing for another 12,000 and we are for even more. We ask Australia to be more generous and have a hand in history in helping immigrants here.”

While Father Dergham said he supported a much-criticised proposal last week for the government to prioritise Christians, he justified this saying he had seen Christian people be personally persecuted in Syria, and (non-christian) militants causing disruptions.

“I’m aware that some migrants, refugees, do somehow disturb the social order and some do more for the progress of Australia and that needs to be considered,” he said.

“The Christian community here, they want to see Australia bring more persecuted people here and make sure they are safe.”

He said he also wanted Australians, and the Australian government, to not be afraid of taking in more of his people.

“The majority of the Syrian community here arrived before the Syrian war, they arrived for economic reasons, they are well established. Many of them have degrees, they are policemen, they have businesses, they are willing to help with everything they can offer and provide, and they are hoping to see Australia take a positive direction and contribute to the release of these Syrians who are suffering, and help everyone back in Syria.”
      


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I just had a fair and just idea.

For every single christian we accept from any islamic country we should deport 2 muslims to that country.
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Reply #537 - Sep 18th, 2015 at 7:44am
 

refuse ALL muslims entry to your free country

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AN Iraqi man with links to Islamic terrorist groups has been shot dead by police in Berlin after he stabbed an officer in the neck area with a knife on Thursday morning.


Police responded to reports of the man — now identified as 41-year-old Rafik Mohamad Yousef — threatening passers-by with a knife in the West Berlin district of Spandau at about 10am.
Yousef reportedly stabbed a 44-year-old female police officer in the neck with a nine-centimetre blade as she approached him.


An officer then opened fire on Yousef, killing him but also accidentally hitting the female police officer in the kidney with one stray bullet.

Despite attempts by emergency workers to revive him, Yousef died in an ambulance shortly after being shot.

Berlin chief prosecutor Dirk Feuerberg said it was too early to speculate about a “terrorist motive” and Yousef’s apartment was being searched, German news agency DPA reported.

At a press conference, Feuerberg said the injured female police officer is now in a stable condition in the intensive care unit after undergoing emergency surgery.

“We wish strength and full recovery,” Police posted to Twitter.

Prior to the attack, Yousef removed an electronic tag that he had been ordered to wear when he was released on bail. Yousef had been convicted and given a prison sentence for planning an attack against former Iraqi prime minister Iyad Allawi in 2004.

He was a member of Ansar al-Islam, a radical Islamic group with links to al-Qaeda, made up predominately by Iraqi Kurds. The group has a history of conflict with Islamic State.


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The terror plots to attack UK

MI5 and anti-terrorism police are monitoring more than 3,000 homegrown Islamic extremists willing to carry out attacks in Britain, security sources have told The Times. British men and women, many in their teens, are being radicalised to the ...........
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Reply #539 - Sep 18th, 2015 at 10:02pm
 
muslims hate everyone everywhere.

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