Reading the comments on this thread it seems that the opposing party has difficulty understanding the terms of the bet I offered(and still do).

Obviously their is more chance that a murderer in Australia will be non-Moslem than Moslem. As stated 23000000 to 400000 population.

In light of this the terms of the bet are as follows.

Australia, total population 23,000,000 (400000 Moslem)
                                  -vs-
the "west", total population 1.73 billion (47,000,000 Moslems)

I am stating that it is more probable that Australia will experience a homocide perpetrated by a non-Muslim than the west will experience and Homocide motovated by extreme Islam.

Their are twice as many Moslems in this sample as the total population of Australia.

To all the Islamaphobes this is what is known as a free swing!

Unless the whole rational for your opinions is flawed.
 
I state this because it is shown statistically, in easily available records.

If you are not prepared to take the bet it must be because you know how small the probability of a violent Islamic attack is.
Either that or you just couldn't live without my friendly banter !


fruit up or shut up

If the former view is correct then you would see a statistical expression of such beliefs in violent crime statistics. i.e Moslem's commit more assaults/murders than non-Moslem's per head of population.

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EVERY year around June, thousands of girls disappear from homes and schools for extended holidays never to return the same again.

It’s a part of the annual “cutting season” where girls younger than 15 are sent to visit relatives only to have their genitalia mutilated using knives, scissors or pieces of glass and sometimes sewn up using thorns.

Now a new report on female genital mutilation (FGM) shows just how widespread the practice is with victims in every county across the UK.

Equality Now’s Program Officer for Sexual Violence and Trafficking Anber Raz said while it’s virtually impossible to get a handle on exact numbers due to secrecy surrounding it, there is no doubt it’s happening to young girls today despite moves to ban the brutal practice.

“Summer generally is what they call the cutting season which also means that people have often taken girls abroad in the summer holidays to have this done,” she told news.com.au.

“Of course we expected urban areas to have a high prevalence but we didn’t expect it to be literally in every authority across England and Wales.”

The report showed nearly five per cent of women in London’s Southwark are effected by FGM, with highest estimates outside London found in Manchester, Slough, Bristol, Leicester and Birmingham.

It comes as he UK’s International Development Minister Lynne Featherstone warned people to watch for young girls that went missing if they suspect if could be happening to them.

“This is everyone’s problem. If a Londoner was concerned about a neighbour and a child ... she or he should have no hesitation in taking that to an authority,” she told The Evening Standard.


Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) can range from cutting off the clitoris to a process known as infibulation — where all external genitalia is removed and two sides of the vulva are sewn together. It’s often done without anaesthetic as a rite of passage or form of sexual control rather than linked to a specific religion.

It’s estimated there are between 100 million to 140 million victims around the world with rates up to 90 per cent in parts of Africa. It can have severe and lifelong consequences including chronic infections, pain and difficulty with sex and childbirth for life. The number of women who die is unknown.

In Australia, the NSW Government has taken a tough approach in cracking down on FGM, last year increasing the maximum penalty for performing the procedure from seven to 21 years.

It has also become a criminal act to take a girl out of NSW to undergo FGM, closing a loophole that previously let people avoid charges if they had taken their child overseas.

Despite this, a handful of people in NSW have faced court over the practice, including a Sydney father who had his then nine-month-old baby daughter circumcised while abroad in February 2012.

Immigrant Women’s Health Service chief executive Dr Eman Sharobeem said it’s virtually impossible to know how prevalent it is but she wouldn’t be surprised if it’s happening here.

“It’s happened before and there’s nothing from stopping it from happening again,” she told news.com.au. “And in most of the cases it is actually the woman in the family who will take her daughter to undergo such a practice.

“They have many excuses: it’s our culture, it will control her ability to have sex before marriage, we can protect her from her own desires, it is actually a part of being hygienic — there are many arguments around it.”

Her clinic is focused on educating people about the dangers before it’s done and she wants education embedded in the school curriculum so young girls can learn to say no.

“But this must happen on a primary school level because the primary school age is when the girls are taken for this barbaric practice,” she said.

“And it is a barbaric practice. When you are cutting part of a human being without their permission and without their understanding of what’s happening to them, this is a horrific act against humans ... Unless we have someone dobbing other people into the authorities we wouldn’t know how many cases are out there.”

victoria.craw@news.com.au

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I want you or your apologists to show me that the non muslim population practices in accordance with their spiritual (or lack of) beliefs

tut tut, you never mentioned that before. Shifting goalposts.

The odds are stacked in their favour, the entire west has a co-ordinated security system dedicated to the prevention of islamic terror. They stop many would be terorists long before they are able to carry out their muslim torture and  murder.

For the muslims and their apologists to be genuine they would have to guarantee that every bit of the west which could suffer a muslim terrorist attack is coverd by our local media, plus the number of muslim terror attacks thwarted, this is an impossibility.

Only major events make the world news, no one knows how many smaller attempts, in the west, were actually stopped by  the authorities.

How many other countries would know the number of islamic terror plots foiled in Australia?