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Reply #390 - Jul 28^th, 2015 at 10:48pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 2:50pm:

moses wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 2:33pm:

Evading these issues will never solve the problem.

How about for once you give us some practical ideas on what *WILL* solve the problem moses.

Emphasis on practical solutions - not just hot air about how evil muslim beliefs are. Can you do that?

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Reply #391 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 1:26pm

Gandalf & Pho Huc wrote:
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How about for once you give us some practical ideas on what *WILL* solve the problem moses.

Emphasis on practical solutions - not just hot air about how evil muslim beliefs are. Can you do that?

The practical solution is what I've been advocating since day one.

CLEAN UP THE EVIL IN ISLAM, THE COMMANDS OF allah, THE TEACHINGS OF muhammad, THE VERSES IN THE quran AND HADIT'TH

This is the only answer to the problem.

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Reply #392 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 1:45pm

moses wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 1:26pm:

Gandalf & Pho Huc wrote:
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How about for once you give us some practical ideas on what *WILL* solve the problem moses.

Emphasis on practical solutions - not just hot air about how evil muslim beliefs are. Can you do that?

The practical solution is what I've been advocating since day one.

CLEAN UP THE EVIL IN ISLAM, THE COMMANDS OF allah, THE TEACHINGS OF muhammad, THE VERSES IN THE quran AND HADIT'TH

This is the only answer to the problem.

So, you'd basically want them to stop being Muslims Moses?

What if they became Atheists instead? Would that satisfy you or do you want them all to only become Christians? How about Hindus or Buddhists or Taoists or Shintoists or Shamanists? They acceptable? Grin

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Reply #393 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 1:47pm

moses wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 1:26pm:

Gandalf & Pho Huc wrote:
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How about for once you give us some practical ideas on what *WILL* solve the problem moses.

Emphasis on practical solutions - not just hot air about how evil muslim beliefs are. Can you do that?

The practical solution is what I've been advocating since day one.

CLEAN UP THE EVIL IN ISLAM, THE COMMANDS OF allah, THE TEACHINGS OF muhammad, THE VERSES IN THE quran AND HADIT'TH

This is the only answer to the problem.

And how would that be achieved, exactly?

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Reply #394 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 2:21pm

[Dev] null knows that it is impossible to clean up the cult, without destroying it.

So the world has to accept the rape torture and mass murder conducted by muslims, rather than:

CLEAN UP THE EVIL IN ISLAM, THE COMMANDS OF allah, THE TEACHINGS OF muhammad, THE VERSES IN THE quran AND HADIT'TH

greggerypeccary want's to know how to do it.

Well I would have thought that by simple honesty on the part of every one would be the first step.

Honesty on the part of muslims to expunge the evil referred to, would be the one simple way.

Not mental and literary gymnastics, forever running around crying victimization, misunderstanding, misinterpretation, cherry picking parts of sentences while ignoring the verse in its entirety, etc.

It's no big deal after all editors are always doing it with written manuscripts, teachers do it with school projects, on and on it goes, almost everyone is capable of rewriting literature.

The problem muslims have is, they've accepted the inhumane putrefaction in the qur'an as being infallible, perfect and unable to be changed.

Well that's their problem, nobody else's.

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Pho Huc Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 985 Victoria Gender:	Re: islam exposed by muslims Reply #395 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 2:50pm Moses, Honesty is built on respect. How you can you comport yourself the way you do and expect any respect?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 151395 Gender:	Re: islam exposed by muslims Reply #396 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 2:53pm moses wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 2:21pm: The problem muslims have is, they've accepted the inhumane putrefaction in the qur'an as being infallible, perfect and unable to be changed. Well that's their problem, nobody else's. It seems to trouble you an awful lot.
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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: islam exposed by muslims Reply #397 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 3:00pm Oh gee the apologists are in a flap trying to avoid one simple statement on the issue of stopping islamic terror. CLEAN UP THE EVIL IN ISLAM, THE COMMANDS OF allah, THE TEACHINGS OF muhammad, THE VERSES IN THE quran AND HADIT'TH
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Pho Huc Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 985 Victoria Gender:	Re: islam exposed by muslims Reply #398 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 3:08pm moses wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 2:21pm: The problem muslims have is, they've accepted the inhumane putrefaction in the qur'an as being infallible, perfect and unable to be changed. Well that's their problem, nobody else's. you really sound like its a problem for you......
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Re: islam exposed by muslims
Reply #399 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 4:59pm

Soren wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 7:04pm:

Show us how Islam valorises
Individual choice over submission to Mohammed's revelations
Freedom of speech, conscience, religion.
How Islam has not treated non Muslims as dhimmis throughout its entire history
How shia and sunni Islam have NOT been completely intolerant of each other
How Islam permitted freedom of religion and conscience to Jews, Christians, Hindus, pagans
How Muslims are who kill cartoonists, translators, film makers in the 21st century, in the name of Islam, are demonstrably wrong
What Muslims like you who think they are wrong are doing about them - other than berating people like me.

Normally I would give you a more considered and detailed response, but seeing it will just be ridiculed, ignored, dismissed etc - I fail to see the why I should waste my time. The abridged version will have to suffice...

1. Freedom of religious thought is enshrined in the Quran - a no clearer starting point is verse 2:256 "there is no compulsion in religion"

2. Dhimmitude was a far more humane way of treating subjects than the standards of the time. Subjects had freedom of religion and were exempt from military duty. The jizya tax was equivalent to the muslim zakat tax - which they were exempt from.

3. sunni-shia relations over the centuries have been characterised by co-existence and tolerance, not separation and intolerance.

4. Jews, christians and pagans have all received far more freedom under Islam than most other rulers.

5. The cartoon killers are wrong because mainstream muslim society says they are wrong. Simple.

6. Berating people like you is an important part of the fight for truth. I am a law abiding citizen who does nothing more and nothing less than the average law-abiding citizen. It is simply outrageous to imply that somehow because the nutters claim to share the same religion as me (I don't have any say in that do I?) - that I am somehow responsible for them. I'm not sure what you are suggesting - travel to Syria and embark upon a "peace crusade" or some crap? No thanks - my responsibilities lie with my family and my loved ones - not nutjob headhackers who hijack my peaceful religion.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #400 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 9:00pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 4:59pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 7:04pm:

Show us how Islam valorises
Individual choice over submission to Mohammed's revelations
Freedom of speech, conscience, religion.
How Islam has not treated non Muslims as dhimmis throughout its entire history
How shia and sunni Islam have NOT been completely intolerant of each other
How Islam permitted freedom of religion and conscience to Jews, Christians, Hindus, pagans
How Muslims are who kill cartoonists, translators, film makers in the 21st century, in the name of Islam, are demonstrably wrong
What Muslims like you who think they are wrong are doing about them - other than berating people like me.

Normally I would give you a more considered and detailed response, but seeing it will just be ridiculed, ignored, dismissed etc - I fail to see the why I should waste my time. The abridged version will have to suffice...

1. Freedom of religious thought is enshrined in the Quran - a no clearer starting point is verse 2:256 "there is no compulsion in religion"

2. Dhimmitude was a far more humane way of treating subjects than the standards of the time. Subjects had freedom of religion and were exempt from military duty. The jizya tax was equivalent to the muslim zakat tax - which they were exempt from.

3. sunni-shia relations over the centuries have been characterised by co-existence and tolerance, not separation and intolerance.

4. Jews, christians and pagans have all received far more freedom under Islam than most other rulers.

5. The cartoon killers are wrong because mainstream muslim society says they are wrong. Simple.

6. Berating people like you is an important part of the fight for truth. I am a law abiding citizen who does nothing more and nothing less than the average law-abiding citizen. It is simply outrageous to imply that somehow because the nutters claim to share the same religion as me (I don't have any say in that do I?) - that I am somehow responsible for them. I'm not sure what you are suggesting - travel to Syria and embark upon a "peace crusade" or some crap? No thanks - my responsibilities lie with my family and my loved ones - not nutjob headhackers who hijack my peaceful religion.

Why are Muslims murdering each other and non-Muslims if it has all been so peaceful, examplary and all-round marvellous all along?

Please do not say that non-Muslims make you do it.

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Pho Huc Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 985 Victoria Gender:	Re: islam exposed by muslims Reply #401 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 9:20pm For the same reasons we all murder each other. we are all human and murder is like top 5 things we are good at
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Re: islam exposed by muslims
Reply #402 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 9:29pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 4:59pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 7:04pm:

Show us how Islam valorises
Individual choice over submission to Mohammed's revelations
Freedom of speech, conscience, religion.
How Islam has not treated non Muslims as dhimmis throughout its entire history
How shia and sunni Islam have NOT been completely intolerant of each other
How Islam permitted freedom of religion and conscience to Jews, Christians, Hindus, pagans
How Muslims are who kill cartoonists, translators, film makers in the 21st century, in the name of Islam, are demonstrably wrong
What Muslims like you who think they are wrong are doing about them - other than berating people like me.

Normally I would give you a more considered and detailed response, but seeing it will just be ridiculed, ignored, dismissed etc - I fail to see the why I should waste my time. The abridged version will have to suffice...

1. Freedom of religious thought is enshrined in the Quran - a no clearer starting point is verse 2:256 "there is no compulsion in religion"

2. Dhimmitude was a far more humane way of treating subjects than the standards of the time. Subjects had freedom of religion and were exempt from military duty. The jizya tax was equivalent to the muslim zakat tax - which they were exempt from.

3. sunni-shia relations over the centuries have been characterised by co-existence and tolerance, not separation and intolerance.

4. Jews, christians and pagans have all received far more freedom under Islam than most other rulers.

5. The cartoon killers are wrong because mainstream muslim society says they are wrong. Simple.

6. Berating people like you is an important part of the fight for truth. I am a law abiding citizen who does nothing more and nothing less than the average law-abiding citizen. It is simply outrageous to imply that somehow because the nutters claim to share the same religion as me (I don't have any say in that do I?) - that I am somehow responsible for them. I'm not sure what you are suggesting - travel to Syria and embark upon a "peace crusade" or some crap? No thanks - my responsibilities lie with my family and my loved ones - not nutjob headhackers who hijack my peaceful religion.

Oh, he’ll forget all that, G. Early onset Altzheimers, you know.

He’ll ask you the same question next week, when he’ll also accuse you of evasion and telling porkies.

Always, absolutely, never ever. It’s the old boy staple, and it’s served him well for the past 14 years. He’s not changing for anyone.

Now, if only we can get a decent bombing or something to prove him right. Armenian Christians, Family Court terrorists, the NSW Special Branch, anyone will do.

The old boy can fill in the gaps with his Altzheimers.

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Reply #403 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 9:38pm

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 9:20pm:

For the same reasons we all murder each other. we are all human and murder is like top 5 things we are good at Cry

Islam has nuffin' to do with Muslim murdering each other.
And Islam is certainly not offering any improvement for humanity by your very own reckoning.

So much for final and unalterable revelation from God. What use if I-Slam if it is no use at all?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: islam exposed by muslims Reply #404 - Jul 29^th, 2015 at 9:51pm Do you have an automated script running S? You should - its a complete waste for you to manually type all your posts.
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