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Reply #315 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:32pm

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 3:28pm:

12 terrorist incidents in Australian history.
2 by moslems,
2 by christians(armenians)
2 by right wing political groups.
2 by Croatians
3 by assorted nutters
1 by the government.

These are the logical conclusions based on factual data:
Moslems, Christians,Croatians and right wing extremists are all equally likely to perpetrate a terrorist action.

But only ONE of them calls itself a religion of peace.

Credibility?

Zero.

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Reply #316 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:38pm

Soren wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:32pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 3:28pm:

12 terrorist incidents in Australian history.
2 by moslems,
2 by christians(armenians)
2 by right wing political groups.
2 by Croatians
3 by assorted nutters
1 by the government.

These are the logical conclusions based on factual data:
Moslems, Christians,Croatians and right wing extremists are all equally likely to perpetrate a terrorist action.

But only ONE of them calls itself a religion of peace.

Credibility?

Zero.

Christianity also considers itself a religion of peace.

Do you state the Christianity also has zero credibility because a small minority of Christians have committed terrorist offences?

I think that would be bad reasoning. but its the position you would have to hold to be consistent.

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Reply #317 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:03pm

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:38pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:32pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 3:28pm:

12 terrorist incidents in Australian history.
2 by moslems,
2 by christians(armenians)
2 by right wing political groups.
2 by Croatians
3 by assorted nutters
1 by the government.

These are the logical conclusions based on factual data:
Moslems, Christians,Croatians and right wing extremists are all equally likely to perpetrate a terrorist action.

But only ONE of them calls itself a religion of peace.

Credibility?

Zero.

Christianity also considers itself a religion of peace.

Really? Do show me where.

[ are you heading towards the position of 'there is no difference between Islam and Christianity'? Looks like it.]

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Reply #318 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:10pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 12:56pm:

Watch out for false prophets.
They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
By their fruit you will recognize them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

Matthew 7:15-20

What fruit does islam produce ?

any answers ?

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Reply #320 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:14pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 21^st, 2015 at 2:58pm:

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...............The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” ......

moh beheaded 100's of jews in one day because they would not become muzzies.

No comment ?

Hey, what about the rule invented by moh that a kid born to some muzzies is automatically a muzzie .

is that compulsion ?

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Reply #322 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:33pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:10pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 12:56pm:

Watch out for false prophets.
They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
By their fruit you will recognize them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

Matthew 7:15-20

What fruit does islam produce ?

any answers ?

can you restate the question in a more precise way please.

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Reply #323 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:38pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:16pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 11:19pm:

14 pages of mass murders and apologetics and diverters are still lying.

What is the bet an Islamic mass murder happens within a month ?

lets start again, the last time was too easy.

a bet eh?

How about if the next person murdered in Australia is killed by a moslem extremist I will shut up in my defense of a rational interpretation of islam.

If the next person murdered in Australia is killed by someone other than a moslem extremist you cease your attacks on Islam.

you should be a shoe in to win since extreme moslems are so dangerous, and then you wont have to argue with me anymore

up for it?

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Reply #324 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:43pm

Soren wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:03pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:38pm:

Soren wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 6:32pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 3:28pm:

12 terrorist incidents in Australian history.
2 by moslems,
2 by christians(armenians)
2 by right wing political groups.
2 by Croatians
3 by assorted nutters
1 by the government.

These are the logical conclusions based on factual data:
Moslems, Christians,Croatians and right wing extremists are all equally likely to perpetrate a terrorist action.

But only ONE of them calls itself a religion of peace.

Credibility?

Zero.

Christianity also considers itself a religion of peace.

Really? Do show me where.

[ are you heading towards the position of 'there is no difference between Islam and Christianity'? Looks like it.]

Ok, i admit it was called the religion of love when i was taught as a youngster, but splitting hairs surely?

Me personally i have a preference for Christianity.
For me I find the new testament to be generally a pretty good guide for living your life. I disagree with the roles of women in traditional Islamic society and some of the detail points regarding unclean animals. But the two religions do agree on many more points than they disagree, and both derive from a common source. to say that they were the same would be incorrect. to say they were totally different would also be incorrect.

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Reply #325 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:49pm

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:38pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:16pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 11:19pm:

14 pages of mass murders and apologetics and diverters are still lying.

What is the bet an Islamic mass murder happens within a month ?

lets start again, the last time was too easy.

a bet eh?

How about if the next person murdered in Australia is killed by a moslem extremist I will shut up in my defense of a rational interpretation of islam.

If the next person murdered in Australia is killed by someone other than a moslem extremist you cease your attacks on Islam.

you should be a shoe in to win since extreme moslems are so dangerous, and then you wont have to argue with me anymore

up for it?

A fairer bet would be the next person murdered in Australia that was inspired by religion.

After all , it is the religion that is the issue, not that people commit murder.

You have a whole lot of religions that might win, so don't look so glum. Shocked

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Reply #326 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 8:14pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:49pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:38pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:16pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 11:19pm:

14 pages of mass murders and apologetics and diverters are still lying.

What is the bet an Islamic mass murder happens within a month ?

lets start again, the last time was too easy.

a bet eh?

How about if the next person murdered in Australia is killed by a moslem extremist I will shut up in my defense of a rational interpretation of islam.

If the next person murdered in Australia is killed by someone other than a moslem extremist you cease your attacks on Islam.

you should be a shoe in to win since extreme moslems are so dangerous, and then you wont have to argue with me anymore

up for it?

A fairer bet would be the next person murdered in Australia that was inspired by religion.

After all , it is the religion that is the issue, not that people commit murder.

You have a whole lot of religions that might win, so don't look so glum. Shocked

Id still be prepared to take that bet

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Reply #327 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 9:59pm

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:33pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:10pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 12:56pm:

Watch out for false prophets.
They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
By their fruit you will recognize them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

Matthew 7:15-20

What fruit does islam produce ?

any answers ?

can you restate the question in a more precise way please.

Sure.
Read the Bible, cover to cover .

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Reply #328 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 10:38pm

wonder what cult this person follows/ed ?

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A 15-year-old boy has pleaded guilty at London’s Old Bailey to inciting terrorism by encouraging the murder of police officers during an Anzac Day parade in Australia.

The youth, who cannot be named for legal reasons, entered his plea via video link from Manchester Crown Court on Thursday. Wearing a grey shirt and tie, the boy spoke only to plead guilty.

The charge states that between March 15, 2014 and March 26 the boy from the North West of England incited a person to commit an act of terrorism wholly or partly outside the UK, namely the murder of police officers during an attack on a parade to commemorate Anzac Day in Australia.

A second charge of inciting terrorism overseas in relation to beheading a person in Australia was dropped by the prosecution.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/terror/anzac-day-terror-plot-teen-plead...

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Reply #329 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 10:42pm

ahah - appears they are ...........muslims !!!!!!!!!

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...........The Australian can reveal the alleged ringleaders of the Anzac Day plot were in regular contact with Prakash, now considered the most senior Australian fighting with Islamic State.

It is understood intercepted communications have linked Prakash, who fights under the nom de guerre Abu Khalid al-Cambodi, to the Melburnians, who allegedly planned to use swords and knives to attack police on Anzac Day.

The Australian has been told that in the lead-up to Saturday’s raids police were concerned that people of interest had become increasingly agitated, apparently concerned they were under surveillance, as they were.......

............Self-styled Islamic preacher, Junaid Thorne, who has links to IS fighters, has supported the five young men, describing the raids as the “usual nonsense”.

Mr Thorne has been regular speaker at the controversial Al-Furqan Centre in Springvale in Melbourne, where the five men also attended.

Along with the five, Mr Thorne was also linked with 18-year-old Numan Haider, who was shot dead in September after stabbing two police officers at a Melbourne police station car park..........

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/terror/anzac-day-terror-plot-british-po...

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