Pho Huc wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2015 at 9:47pm:


I don't choose to hate.
I hate cults that give rise to terrorists.
I hate beliefs that bind people.

I hate islam

Pho Huc wrote Reply #266 - Jul 21st, 2015 at 3:22pm:
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It's amazing how muslims and their apologists engage in all sorts of illogical excuses for, and distortions of, the actual written words of islam.

muslims around the globe have engaged in the torture and slaughter of terrified human beings while whipping themselves into a religious frenzy shouting the death cult chant *allahu akbar*. 

muslims have murdered people for apostasy, blasphemy, differing religious beliefs, homosexuality, family honour, education of the female, speeches by world leaders, comments at a beauty pageant, books they don't agree with, the list goes on and on.

muslims are subject to world wide security operations.

The old *it means something else* is pure nonsense. muslims torture and kill because islam demands it of them.

moses wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 11:56am:



You have stated that I have made an error of logic in my statement. please show me where so I can be corrected.

You have not rebutted my statement other than positing a logical error, If you cannot identify the error then please cede the point (Quranic Translation) and move the debate along.

I personally would recommend not using the Quran as a basis for your arguments due to your lack of knowledge of the structure of Arabic language. You don't know enough to know when you are right or wrong which can be tedious for the opposing party to argue. not only to we have to argue the point, We also have to explain the meaning of phrases, and that's just too bloody much work       

Pho Huc wrote:

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You entire position is based on illogical error. You continuously evade the real cause / mnotivation of islamic atrocities E.G.: the commands of allah, teachings of muhammad, verses in the qur'an.

They do address it - an incorrect interpretation of Islamic doctrine.

For people who genuinely have this peaceful and tolerant interpretation of Islam, you are literally demanding that they abandon their beliefs.

How do you think that will work out moses? Well we all know the answer - you don't want it to work out. You are not interested in a solution - only forcing yourself into a position where your continued hatred of muslims is guaranteed.

Moses will you at least admit that all your talk about "what muslims must do" is a complete sham - since their is literally nothing that muslims can do in your book without turning themselves into non-muslims?

Watch out for false prophets.
They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
By their fruit you will recognize them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

Matthew 7:15-20

What fruit does islam produce ?

oh moses has logic Phu - it goes like this:

- his interpretation of Islam is supported by the small number of extremists who carry out terrorist acts
- the existence of these terrorist acts is proof that his interpretation is the only legitimate interpretation.

See any flaws?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 3:07pm:


"Notable events involving Australian Muslims during this early period include what has been described either as an act of war by the Ottoman Empire, or the earliest terrorist attack planned against Australian civilians"

Ill be generous and agree that it was a terror attack and that whole world war 1 thing was a coincidence. 
anyway facts not opinions:

excerpt from terrorism incidents in Australia
Broken Hill shooting (1915)[edit]
The Battle of Broken Hill was a fatal incident which took place near Broken Hill, New South Wales, Australia on 1 January 1915. Two men shot dead four people and wounded seven more, before being killed by police and military officers. Though politically and religiously motivated, the men were not members of any sanctioned armed force and the attacks were criminal. The two men were later identified as being Moslems from the British colony of India, modern day Pakistan (some sources incorrectly identify them as Turkish).[4]

Ustaše attacks (1970s)[edit]
An Croatian Ustaše group was active in Australia and was responsible for a number of terror acts in Australia occurring in the 1970s.[5][6]

Yugoslav travel agency bombing (1972)[edit]
The Sydney Yugoslav General Trade and Tourist Agency bombing occurred in Haymarket, Sydney on 16 September 1972; the attack injured sixteen people.[7] The perpetrators of the attack were believed to be Croatian separatists.[8]

Sydney Hilton bombing (1978)[edit]
The Sydney Hilton Hotel bombing occurred on 13 February 1978; a bomb exploded outside the Hilton Hotel in Sydney, which was hosting the first Commonwealth Heads of Government Regional Meeting. Two garbage collectors and a police officer were killed and eleven others were injured. As a result of the bombing, ASIO's powers and budget were greatly expanded. It was also a motivation for the formation of the Australian Federal Police.[9]

Sydney Turkish Consul General assassination (1980)[edit]
On 17 December 1980, Sydney Turkish Consul General Şarık Arıyak and his security attaché Engin Sever were assassinated by two people on motorcycles wielding firearms in Sydney. The Justice Commandos for the Armenian Genocide claimed responsibility

Jack Van Tongeran and the ANM (1980s, 2004)[edit]
Throughout the 1980s, West Australian Neo-Nazi group "The Australian Nationalist Movement", led by Jack van Tongeren, engaged in a series of bombings of Asian restaurants and businesses, political violence, murder of a suspected

Israeli consulate and Hakoah Club bombing (1982)[edit]
The bombing of the Israeli Consulate and Hakoah Club in Sydney occurred on 23 December 1982. The two bombings occurred on the same day within five hours of each other.

Melbourne police station bombing (1986)[edit]
On the 27 March 1986, a bombing occurred at the Russell Street Police Station in Melbourne. The blast seriously injured 21-year-old Constable Angela Taylor, who died on 20 April.[16]

Turkish consulate bombing (1986)[edit]
The Melbourne Turkish consulate bombing occurred on 23 November 1986; a car bomb exploded in a carpark beneath the Turkish Consulate in South Yarra, Victoria, killing the bomber who failed to correctly set up the explosive device. Levon Demirian, a Sydney resident with links to the Armenian Revolutionary Federation, was charged over the attack and served 10 years.[17]

Perth French Consulate bombing (1995)[edit]
In 1995, terrorists firebombed the French Consulate in Perth.[18]

Abortion clinic attack (2001)[edit]
Main article: Peter James Knight
On 16 July 2001, Peter James Knight, described as an "obsessive anti-abortionist" who lived alone in a makeshift ca

Endeavour Hills stabbings (2014)[edit]
Main article: 2014 Endeavour Hills stabbings
On 23 September 2014 an 18-year-old man,


12 terrorist incidents in Australian history.
2 by moslems,
2 by christians(armenians)
2 by right wing political groups.
2 by Croatians
3 by assorted nutters
1 by the government.

These are the logical conclusions based on factual data:
Moslems, Christians,Croatians and right wing extremists are all equally likely to perpetrate a terrorist action.

The most probable person to commit a terrorist action is a lone nutcase.   

The most efficient killer is our own government( 1 bomb 3 dead)

Thanks for the pointer Sprint, really helped me to dig up some quantitative evidence of terrorism in Australia.

After reading this how do you manage to infer that Moslem's are the biggest terror threat without abandoning all pretense of logic?