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Reply #210 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 12:14am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 11:19pm:

14 pages of mass murders and apologetics and diverters are still lying.

What is the bet an Islamic mass murder happens within a month ?

As strange as it may seem, Sprint, what this country needs is a successful attack on Australian soil to shut the idiots up and let decent white people take control of our Freeeedom.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 46311	Re: islam exposed by muslims Reply #211 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 12:39am Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 11:11pm: this king changes the rules This king could end up like Charles I, if he keeps trying to do that, Sprint.
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Reply #212 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 12:40am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 11:19pm:

14 pages of mass murders and apologetics and diverters are still lying.

What is the bet an Islamic mass murder happens within a month ?

In Australia? Doubtful. Overseas, very likely. I suppose if it was perpetrated by you, perhaps, Sprint, your prediction could come true in Australia... Roll Eyes

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Reply #213 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 7:44am

Big Donger wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 12:14am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 11:19pm:

14 pages of mass murders and apologetics and diverters are still lying.

What is the bet an Islamic mass murder happens within a month ?

As strange as it may seem, Sprint, what this country needs is a successful attack on Australian soil to shut the idiots up and let decent white people take control of our Freeeedom.

The cold hard truth is that sprint et al represents the demographic who most relish the idea of more terrorist attacks.

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Reply #214 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 12:54pm

Big Donger wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 12:14am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 11:19pm:

14 pages of mass murders and apologetics and diverters are still lying.

What is the bet an Islamic mass murder happens within a month ?

As strange as it may seem, Sprint, what this country needs is a successful attack on Australian soil to shut the idiots up and let decent white people take control of our Freeeedom.

I'm surprised that you support the death of innocents as a tool for political and social change.

This is why I refuse to blame the Quran or Muslim for the acts of violence in there name.

You have managed to say something totally terrorist nutty, without any reference to Islam or the Quran.

Its statements like this that demonstrate that antisocial murderous sentiments are universal, and not confined to the Islamic philosophy.

Thanks for showing that any person regardless of religion can be a terrorist, if they are sufficiently driven to prove their beliefs and unheeding of alternate points of view.

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Big Donger Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101714	Re: islam exposed by muslims Reply #215 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 1:03pm moses wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 7:14pm: Debating the evilness of islam is a no brainer. It must be, Moses. You ignore every other post in the "debate" and you repeat the same argument. You've done this for years. You're right about the no-brainer. A well-trained parrot could do it.
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Reply #216 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 1:15pm

it obvious islam is evil.
You just need a very limited awareness of what the term "evil" means.
Then you combine that with a limited awareness of Islam.
Then ignore any relationships or information which may imply weakness in your original statements, remember the key to promulgating a debatable assertion is repetition, repetition, repetition, repetition.

Never let yourself get bogged down by reality or there is a high risk of your simple streamlined philosophy will have to be expanded to deal with actual human behavior, choices, social pressure etc etc etc

which will make it impossible to make absolutionist statements like
"Islam is Evil"

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Reply #217 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 1:26pm

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 12:54pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 12:14am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 11:19pm:

14 pages of mass murders and apologetics and diverters are still lying.

What is the bet an Islamic mass murder happens within a month ?

As strange as it may seem, Sprint, what this country needs is a successful attack on Australian soil to shut the idiots up and let decent white people take control of our Freeeedom.

You would honestly be happier with people being killed if it helped support an argument you are making in a online forum.
and you say that Moslems are the people I should be scared off????

You've got it, Pho. Sprint honestly would be happier with people being killed in the name of terrorism. Many posters here would.

Remember, in the late 1990s, Putin made the invasion of Chechnya possible by having the Russian secret police detonate bombs in Moscow apartment blocks. Hundreds of Russians were killed in what was the prelude to the War On Terror.

I've never agreed that Sept 11 was an inside job, but the case of Putin shows how far the knuckleheads will go to prove a point. In Putin's case, he was happy to bomb his own civilians.

I doubt Sprint would go as far as placing the bomb himself, but his desire for this to happen echoes a number of posters here. Longy also calls for terrorist attacks, in his words, "to shut the idiots up". The chorus has been getting louder of late, backing the government's security agenda. People want the terror threat raised. Whenever it gets classified as high, they love it. Terrorism has become the new Circus Maximus. If there ever is a terrorist attack, they'll be cheering.

The only successful terrorist bombing in Australia, the Sydney Hilton Bombing, was implemented by the Special Branch of the NSW police. Unlike Putin's bombings, the Hilton bomb was not meant to go off, but be "discovered" by police at the scene. The police didn't plan for a garbage run that night, so the bomb killed a garbage collector and seriously injured a cop. The motive for the Hilton Bombing is still unclear, but the Special Branch had a track record of wanting to "shut the idiots up".

In the end, the Hilton Bombing backfired. The Special Branch was disbanded after a parliamentary investigation.

In Putin's case, it won him his presidency. The Moscow bombings, however, never went away. The role of the secret police was uncovered on Moscow TV. As the ex-director of the secret police, Putin has always been implicated. His attempts at a cover-up are on the record.

Could it happen here? I doubt it. But if it does, I'd be looking closely at those with the most to gain.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41433 Gender:	Re: islam exposed by muslims Reply #218 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 1:47pm Quote: ........The school where they teach execution THEY use soft drink and lollies to turn boys into killers and suicide bombers, teaching them to behead dolls as practice for the real thing. Go inside an ISIS school........
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Reply #219 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 1:56pm

Big Donger wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 1:26pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 12:54pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 12:14am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 11:19pm:

14 pages of mass murders and apologetics and diverters are still lying.

What is the bet an Islamic mass murder happens within a month ?

As strange as it may seem, Sprint, what this country needs is a successful attack on Australian soil to shut the idiots up and let decent white people take control of our Freeeedom.

You would honestly be happier with people being killed if it helped support an argument you are making in a online forum.
and you say that Moslems are the people I should be scared off????

You've got it, Pho. Sprint honestly would be happier with people being killed in the name of terrorism. Many posters here would.

Remember, in the late 1990s, Putin made the invasion of Chechnya possible by having the Russian secret police detonate bombs in Moscow apartment blocks. Hundreds of Russians were killed in what was the prelude to the War On Terror.

I've never agreed that Sept 11 was an inside job, but the case of Putin shows how far the knuckleheads will go to prove a point. In Putin's case, he was happy to bomb his own civilians.

I doubt Sprint would go as far as placing the bomb himself, but his desire for this to happen echoes a number of posters here. Longy also calls for terrorist attacks, in his words, "to shut the idiots up". The chorus has been getting louder of late, backing the government's security agenda. People want the terror threat raised. Whenever it gets classified as high, they love it. Terrorism has become the new Circus Maximus. If there ever is a terrorist attack, they'll be cheering.

The only successful terrorist bombing in Australia, the Sydney Hilton Bombing, was implemented by the Special Branch of the NSW police. Unlike Putin's bombings, the Hilton bomb was not meant to go off, but be "discovered" by police at the scene. The police didn't plan for a garbage run that night, so the bomb killed a garbage collector and seriously injured a cop. The motive for the Hilton Bombing is still unclear, but the Special Branch had a track record of wanting to "shut the idiots up".

In the end, the Hilton Bombing backfired. The Special Branch was disbanded after a parliamentary investigation.

In Putin's case, it won him his presidency. The Moscow bombings, however, never went away. The role of the secret police was uncovered on Moscow TV. As the ex-director of the secret police, Putin has always been implicated. His attempts at a cover-up are on the record.

Could it happen here? I doubt it. But if it does, I'd be looking closely at those with the most to gain.

If i was a political leader(particularly a unpopular leader) I wouldn't be unhappy if a terrorist incident occurred in my country.
It gives you a great opportunity to demonstrate how tough you are on national security.
It also allows you to accuse any who oppose you of supporting the terrorists.
I don't think T Abbott would orchestrate such an action, but the political climate that has existed post 9/11 has given a tremendous advantage to those who are prepared to use such tools as a means of leveraging their own personal political ambitions.
Scared people don't ask intelligent questions.

p.s The parliamentary investigation concluded that while they did plan the attack, procure the device and place it in the bin they were not responsible for the attack.
Responsibility for the attack was allocated to a copy of the Quran, which was located only 35km away from the office where the attack was planned.
It was felt the without the nefarious influence of the Quran they bombing would never have happened, only a garden tea party as originally intended by the perpetrators.

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Reply #220 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 3:06pm

There we have it, post after post after post, yet not one of them can explain how the muslim fundamentalists have got it wrong with their islamic rape, torture, terrorism and mass murder.

Just meaningless posts desperately trying to avoid the fact that islam generates and sustains depraved atrocities as the islamic norm.

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Reply #221 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 3:12pm

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 1:56pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 1:26pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 12:54pm:

Big Donger wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 12:14am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 11:19pm:

14 pages of mass murders and apologetics and diverters are still lying.

What is the bet an Islamic mass murder happens within a month ?

As strange as it may seem, Sprint, what this country needs is a successful attack on Australian soil to shut the idiots up and let decent white people take control of our Freeeedom.

You would honestly be happier with people being killed if it helped support an argument you are making in a online forum.
and you say that Moslems are the people I should be scared off????

You've got it, Pho. Sprint honestly would be happier with people being killed in the name of terrorism. Many posters here would.

Remember, in the late 1990s, Putin made the invasion of Chechnya possible by having the Russian secret police detonate bombs in Moscow apartment blocks. Hundreds of Russians were killed in what was the prelude to the War On Terror.

I've never agreed that Sept 11 was an inside job, but the case of Putin shows how far the knuckleheads will go to prove a point. In Putin's case, he was happy to bomb his own civilians.

I doubt Sprint would go as far as placing the bomb himself, but his desire for this to happen echoes a number of posters here. Longy also calls for terrorist attacks, in his words, "to shut the idiots up". The chorus has been getting louder of late, backing the government's security agenda. People want the terror threat raised. Whenever it gets classified as high, they love it. Terrorism has become the new Circus Maximus. If there ever is a terrorist attack, they'll be cheering.

The only successful terrorist bombing in Australia, the Sydney Hilton Bombing, was implemented by the Special Branch of the NSW police. Unlike Putin's bombings, the Hilton bomb was not meant to go off, but be "discovered" by police at the scene. The police didn't plan for a garbage run that night, so the bomb killed a garbage collector and seriously injured a cop. The motive for the Hilton Bombing is still unclear, but the Special Branch had a track record of wanting to "shut the idiots up".

In the end, the Hilton Bombing backfired. The Special Branch was disbanded after a parliamentary investigation.

In Putin's case, it won him his presidency. The Moscow bombings, however, never went away. The role of the secret police was uncovered on Moscow TV. As the ex-director of the secret police, Putin has always been implicated. His attempts at a cover-up are on the record.

Could it happen here? I doubt it. But if it does, I'd be looking closely at those with the most to gain.

If i was a political leader(particularly a unpopular leader) I wouldn't be unhappy if a terrorist incident occurred in my country.
It gives you a great opportunity to demonstrate how tough you are on national security.
It also allows you to accuse any who oppose you of supporting the terrorists.
I don't think T Abbott would orchestrate such an action, but the political climate that has existed post 9/11 has given a tremendous advantage to those who are prepared to use such tools as a means of leveraging their own personal political ambitions.
Scared people don't ask intelligent questions.

p.s The parliamentary investigation concluded that while they did plan the attack, procure the device and place it in the bin they were not responsible for the attack.
Responsibility for the attack was allocated to a copy of the Quran, which was located only 35km away from the office where the attack was planned.
It was felt the without the nefarious influence of the Quran they bombing would never have happened, only a garden tea party as originally intended by the perpetrators.

The Hilton Bombing? There were no Qurans involved in that one, Pho.

Scared people mightn't ask questions, but they can get quite snippy when you tell them porkies. The Spanish Prime Minister was voted out after the Madrid bombing for suggesting that the attack was done by Basque separatists.

It's hard to imagine a low-level lie like this ensnaring T Abbott.

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Reply #222 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 3:16pm

moses wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 3:06pm:

There we have it, post after post after post, yet not one of them can explain how the muslim fundamentalists have got it wrong with their islamic rape, torture, terrorism and mass murder.

And after each post after post of you saying this, I keep referring you to my earlier post after post.

You could get a robot to make your case, Moses. Why don't you just program a sequence of posts to be repeated ad infinitum. It would save you having to come here to repeat yourself.

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Reply #223 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 3:45pm

Your earlier posts all come under the heading of *worn out excuses*.

Not one of you has the balls to call islam and muslims to account for their islamic atrocities.

It's a never ending cry of, Oh OH here it is again:

it's got nuffin to wiv islam.

it doesn't really mean what it says.

islam's a religion of peace

Stand up and be counted Karnal.

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Reply #224 - Jul 20^th, 2015 at 4:09pm

moses wrote on Jul 20^th, 2015 at 3:06pm:

There we have it, post after post after post, yet not one of them can explain how the muslim fundamentalists have got it wrong with their islamic rape, torture, terrorism and mass murder.

Just meaningless posts desperately trying to avoid the fact that islam generates and sustains depraved atrocities as the islamic norm.

Can you please direct me to the post where someone not in the extreme-anti-extremist school has stating that rape, torture, terrorism or mass murder is acceptable?
Can you please show me a post that demonstrates our acceptance of any of these actions?
We all agree these things are wrong. We just believe that it is a personal choice of the perpetrator, not a religious compulsion.

None of the posts I have read condone any of these actions(other than the posts stating that a terrorist attack would be a good thing-which have all been posted by the extreme-anti-extremists)

The point that us moderates?(extreme-antiextremist-antiextremists?) have been making is that Islam is not fundamentally linked with terrorism.
Terrorism has indisputably flourished in many places that had no relationship to Islam.
Northern Ireland, parts of Africa and Papua New Guinea have all experienced mass killings, torture and systematic rape perpetrated by groups which had zero relationship with any branch of Islam or its followers.

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