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Muslim Leaders in Australia, Banning Terrorism Wil
Apr 24^th, 2015 at 12:08pm

'Muslim Leaders in Australia Say Banning Terrorism Will Ban Islam'

.....and that would be a BAD thing ?????????????

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Muslim Leaders in Australia Say Banning Terrorism Will Ban Islam
Posted on January 2, 2015

Every act of Muslim violence that is religiously sanctioned, from terrorism to rape, is derived from the Koran.

If you ban incitement to violence against non-Muslims, you criminalize the Koran.

A Muslim cleric who preaches from certain passages of the Koran could be caught in the “broad” net of the government’s new anti-terror law, Islamic leaders have warned.....

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...Muslim leaders insist that banning terrorism will outlaw their legitimate right to kill Jews and promote the murder of non-Muslims for “legitimate” reasons.

http://counterjihadreport.com/2015/01/02/muslim-leaders-in-australia-say-banning...

Yadda = = John Lennon....

Just imagine.....

Not one single moslem, resident in Australia ?

Yesterday would not be soon enough for me!

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Use children as troops, says cleric
January 18, 2007
SYDNEY'S most influential radical Muslim cleric has been caught on film calling Jews pigs and urging children to die for Allah.
Firebrand Sheik Feiz Mohammed, head of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool [Australia], delivered the hateful rants on a collection of DVDs called the Death Series being sold in Australia and overseas.
.........Sheik Feiz says in the video.
"We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
An Australian citizen born in Sydney who has spent the past year living in Lebanon, Sheik Feiz was exposed this week in a British documentary Undercover Mosque.
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).

"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."

......Sheik Feiz - who just two weeks ago said he felt like an "alien" in his own country - leads about 4000 followers through his Global Islamic Youth Centre in Sydney's southwest.
He also accused Australian authorities of being over-zealous in their approach to clerics like him.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php

Google;

jihad is the pinnacle of islam

"ISLAM is peace."

Honest! Tongue

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Reply #1 - Apr 24^th, 2015 at 1:47pm

Again yadda picking and choosing what he wants to post.

The muslim leaders made no mention of rape, scored your own goal yadda.

Again the article didnt refer to the bible or torah which was mentioned by the muslim leaders,

They said any religious community could face being charged with a terror-related offence "if they refer back to stories in the Quran, Bible and Torah in their sermons".

But some scholars have pointed out that the Old Testament is just as violent in its imagery, including Psalm 137 which threatens Babylonians that "blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rocks"

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Re: Muslim Leaders in Australia, Banning Terrorism Wil
Reply #2 - Apr 24^th, 2015 at 4:37pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 24^th, 2015 at 12:08pm:

'Muslim Leaders in Australia Say Banning Terrorism Will Ban Islam'

.....and that would be a BAD thing ?????????????

https://counterjihadnews.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/864170-islamic-protest-in-s...

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Muslim Leaders in Australia Say Banning Terrorism Will Ban Islam
Posted on January 2, 2015

Every act of Muslim violence that is religiously sanctioned, from terrorism to rape, is derived from the Koran.

If you ban incitement to violence against non-Muslims, you criminalize the Koran.

A Muslim cleric who preaches from certain passages of the Koran could be caught in the “broad” net of the government’s new anti-terror law, Islamic leaders have warned.....

.....
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...Muslim leaders insist that banning terrorism will outlaw their legitimate right to kill Jews and promote the murder of non-Muslims for “legitimate” reasons.

http://counterjihadreport.com/2015/01/02/muslim-leaders-in-australia-say-banning...

Yadda = = John Lennon....

Just imagine.....

Not one single moslem, resident in Australia ?

Yesterday would not be soon enough for me!

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http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2007/01/18/va1237230244821/Sheik-Feiz-Chris...

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Use children as troops, says cleric
January 18, 2007
SYDNEY'S most influential radical Muslim cleric has been caught on film calling Jews pigs and urging children to die for Allah.
Firebrand Sheik Feiz Mohammed, head of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool [Australia], delivered the hateful rants on a collection of DVDs called the Death Series being sold in Australia and overseas.
.........Sheik Feiz says in the video.
"We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
An Australian citizen born in Sydney who has spent the past year living in Lebanon, Sheik Feiz was exposed this week in a British documentary Undercover Mosque.
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).

"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."

......Sheik Feiz - who just two weeks ago said he felt like an "alien" in his own country - leads about 4000 followers through his Global Islamic Youth Centre in Sydney's southwest.
He also accused Australian authorities of being over-zealous in their approach to clerics like him.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php

Google;

jihad is the pinnacle of islam

"ISLAM is peace."

Honest! Tongue

Or, to put it another way - no they did not.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #3 - Apr 24^th, 2015 at 7:00pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 24^th, 2015 at 4:37pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 24^th, 2015 at 12:08pm:

'Muslim Leaders in Australia Say Banning Terrorism Will Ban Islam'

Or, to put it another way - no they did not.

gandalf,

Next you will be trying to tell me that pure ISLAM is a peaceful faith.

And that the leaders of the moslem community, here in Australia, are paragons of virtue, and would never try to deceive us infidels. Shocked

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Yadda says....

Every moslem is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac.

Dictionary;
latent = = existing but not yet developed, manifest, or active

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1418244166/15#15
Yadda said....
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You mean that we [infidels, on OzPol] are guilty of 'stereotyping' members of the Australian mainstream moslem community!!!!

Shock horror!!!!

Fancy having the gall to associate moslems, .......with, .....moslems!

Fancy having the gall to associate moslems, .......with, .....ISLAM [and with ISLAM's laws and tenets] !

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim

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http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1428287887/1#1
Yadda said....
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Neither Kenyans NOR Australians,

should expect local moslems to be willing to 'graciously' live "in peace" with us [infidels].

Why so ?

Because ISLAMIC doctrine and law, ABSOLUTELY FORBIDS IT.

And in those places where moslems 'perceive' that Allah has 'provided' moslems an 'opportunity' to engage in Jihad, we should expect that moslems [in increasing numbers] >> will << engage in 'Jihad operations' against us !!!

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All moslems, living within all secular nations, want only to destroy the structure and the society of those nations, and to kill all disbelievers [those who reject ISLAM].

Q.
Why so ?

A.
Because their 'faith' requires it of them.

In accordance with the 'lawful' instructions given to moslems, within the Koran.

Jihad is lawful.

Jihad is virtuous.

Jihad = = 'virtuously' murdering those who reject ISLAM

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"This nation [i.e. the moslem nation/community, the ummah] has been and will continue to be a nation of Jihad until Judgement day.

MAKE NO MISTAKE: THE NATION [the ummah] HAS NOT CHANGED ITS THINKING, ITS RELIGION, OR ITS FAITH. [i.e. a moslem, IS, a moslem!!!]

IT [the ummah, the moslem community] HAS BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A NATION OF JIHAD UNTIL JUDGEMENT DAY."

....."What is happening in Gaza indicates that it is a delusion to think that PALESTINE can contain the Jews as well as ITS PEOPLE.

PALESTINE cannot contain the Muslims and the Jews.

The Jews.....will not remain there.

Any Jew living in PALESTINE is an illegitimate occupier.

He is a target of Jihad, and will end up in the garbage bin of history.

This [is] for all the Jews in PALESTINE.

It makes no difference whether a Jew is pro-peace or pro-war."

This guy -------------- >

Australian Islamist Leaders Incite to Jihad to Expel Jews from Palestine
goto 0m 50s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN6B8WBzbpw

This guy -------------- >

IMAGE.....

This is 'Aussie' moslem, Ismail Alwahwah.

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IMAGE.....

'Aussie' moslem, Bilal Merhi

Here is 'Aussie' moslem [another moslem paragon of virtue and 'peace'], Bilal Merhi, in Idonesia.

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"......Yes my brothers, we will change the world to suit ISLAM. The moslems living in Australia are also engaging in this struggle [i.e. 1st the lawful 'stealth' Jihad [ >>>>>> "ISLAM is a peaceful faith."], then later, there will be the hot Jihad, in Australia]....."

-------- > goto 1m 40s

Muslims brainwash children in Australia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E

GETTING YOUR PRIORITORIES RIGHT, IS IMPORTANT FOR MOSLEM PARENTS

And it is important to instill into moslem children the righteous desire, to kill Allah's enemies

In the YT [above] watch a group of moslem children, being coached by moslem adults, to hate Australia, and Australians,
......HERE, WITHIN AUSTRALIA. !!!!

And of course this cultural coaching of moslem children is all happening behind closed doors, and out of the public eye.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Muslim Leaders in Australia, Banning Terrorism Wil Reply #4 - Apr 24^th, 2015 at 8:42pm Yadda wrote on Apr 24^th, 2015 at 7:00pm: Next you will be trying to tell me that pure ISLAM is a peaceful faith. Yes, and the next thing you know I'll be telling you the thread title is a complete lie. This is up there with your '10% of all Norwegian women have been raped by muslims' title.
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Re: Muslim Leaders in Australia, Banning Terrorism Wil
Reply #5 - Apr 24^th, 2015 at 11:05pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 24^th, 2015 at 8:42pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 24^th, 2015 at 7:00pm:

Next you will be trying to tell me that pure ISLAM is a peaceful faith.

Yes, and the next thing you know I'll be telling you the thread title is a complete lie.

This is up there with your '10% of all Norwegian women have been raped by muslims' title.

Are you saying, as a Moslem, that Y does not have the Freeeedom.to say such things? Are you saying, as a Moslem, that we should not tell porkie pies about Islam and Moslems?

You people really want to rain on our parade, don’t you. You really want to take away the Freeeeedom of decent white people everywhere.

Moslem == a follower of Islam.

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Reply #6 - Apr 24^th, 2015 at 11:34pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 24^th, 2015 at 8:42pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 24^th, 2015 at 7:00pm:

Next you will be trying to tell me that pure ISLAM is a peaceful faith.

Yes, and the next thing you know I'll be telling you the thread title is a complete lie.

This is up there with your '10% of all Norwegian women have been raped by muslims' title.

He also made a claim that Texans are peaceful but was refuted by few members here.

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Reply #7 - Apr 28^th, 2015 at 10:25am

gandalf said.....
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.....the next thing you know I'll be telling you the thread title is a complete lie.

'Muslim Leaders in Australia Say Banning Terrorism Will Ban Islam' = = "These laws clearly target Muslims and they do so unjustly."

'Muslim Leaders in Australia Say Banning Terrorism Will Ban Islam' = = "...it is no secret that in practice these laws specifically target Muslims."

Australian Muslims Denounce Proposed 'Anti-Terror' Laws
ABC Religion and Ethics 21 Aug 2014

http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2014/08/21/4071617.htm
http://islaminaustralia.com/2014/08/20/muslim-community-denounces-anti-terror-law-proposals/

What does "target Muslims"
mean, when that form of words is being proffered by the moslem community in Australia, in reference to anti-terror laws being expressed, in harsh criticism of new/proposed anti-terror laws ???

Read on;

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Moslem 'youth' [i.e. the children of moslems] in Australia, are being radicalised;
1/ by the Australian moslem community itself,
2/ by being instructed in [established and lawful] mainstream ISLAMIC doctrine,
2/ by being encouraged by their peers in the mainstream Australian moslem community, to accept the legitimacy for Jihad 'operations' [lawful political 'agitation' and deceit AND lawful political violence], a legitimacy which is expressed and declared, throughout ISLAM's own foundation religious texts [the Koran, and the sunna of Mohammed].

'Radicalised' = = encouraged to engage in 'lawful' political violence, to further spread ISLAM's 'message' of ISLAMIC supremacism and 'lawful' moslem political supremacism.

Q.
And how is this ISLAMIC supremacism and 'lawful' moslem political supremacism to be 'lawfully' achieved, according to ISLAMIC 'religious' doctrine ?

A.
By persuasion, but if persuasion is rejected, then by the use, of 'lawful' political violence [by moslems].

Quote:

Pakistani cleric: 'We want Islamic law for all Pakistan and then the world. We would like to do this by preaching. But if not then we would use force.'

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/12/pakistani-cleric-we-want-islamic-law-for-all-p...

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Creed of the sword
September 23, 2006
...the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdel Aziz al-Sheikh.
...Saudi Arabia's most senior cleric also explained.....THE THIRD OPTION OF VIOLENCE AGAINST NON-MUSLIMS WAS ONLY A LAST RESORT, IF THEY REFUSED TO CONVERT OR SURRENDER PEACEFULLY TO THE ARMIES OF ISLAM.
...The resulting doctrine of war was described by the great medieval philosopher Ibn Khaldun: "In the Muslim community, the holy war (jihad) is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the (Muslim) mission and

the (obligation to) convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force."

(The Muqaddimah)

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/creed-of-the-sword/story-e6frg6n6-111111225...

Google;

jihad is the pinnacle of islam

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IMAGE.....

'Aussie' moslem, Bilal Merhi

Here is 'Aussie' moslem [another moslem paragon of virtue and 'peace'], Bilal Merhi, in Indonesia.

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Quote:

"......Yes my brothers, we will change the world to suit ISLAM. The moslems living in Australia are also engaging in this struggle [i.e. 1st the lawful 'stealth' Jihad [ >>>>>> "ISLAM is a peaceful faith."], then later, there will be the hot Jihad, in Australia]....."

-------- > goto 1m 40s

Muslims brainwash children in Australia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E

GETTING YOUR PRIORITIES RIGHT, IS IMPORTANT FOR MOSLEM PARENTS

And it is important to instill into moslem children the righteous desire, to kill Allah's enemies

In the YT [above] watch a group of moslem children, being coached by moslem adults, to hate Australia, and Australians,
......HERE, WITHIN AUSTRALIA. !!!!

And of course this cultural coaching of moslem children is all happening behind closed doors, and out of the public eye.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #8 - Apr 28^th, 2015 at 10:26am

Moslem 'youth' [i.e. the children of moslems] in Australia, are being radicalised;
1/ by the Australian moslem community itself,
2/ by being instructed in [established and lawful] mainstream ISLAMIC doctrine,
2/ by being encouraged by their peers in the mainstream Australian moslem community, to accept the legitimacy for Jihad 'operations' [lawful political 'agitation' and deceit AND lawful political violence], a legitimacy which is expressed and declared, throughout ISLAM's own foundation religious texts [the Koran, and the sunna of Mohammed].

'Radicalised' = = encouraged to engage in 'lawful' political violence, to further spread ISLAM's 'message' of ISLAMIC supremacism and 'lawful' moslem political supremacism.

EVIDENCE ----------- >

Watch a group of moslem children, being coached by moslem adults, to hate Australia, and Australians,
......HERE, WITHIN AUSTRALIA. !!!!

And of course this cultural coaching of moslem children is all happening behind closed doors, and out of the public eye.

Muslims brainwash children in Australia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E

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Australians, should NOT naively assume that local moslems will be always willing to 'graciously' live "in peace" with us [infidels].

Why not ?

Because ISLAMIC doctrine and law, ABSOLUTELY FORBIDS IT.

IMAGE...

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami

Quote:

How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior
January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong

"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-isla...

Google;

jihad is the pinnacle of islam

STRAIGHT FROM THE PROPHETS MOUTH

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"I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The example of a Mujahid [religious fighter] in Allah's Cause-- and Allah knows better who really strives in His Cause----is like a person who fasts and prays continuously. Allah guarantees that He will admit the Mujahid in His Cause into Paradise if he is killed, otherwise He will return him to his home safely with rewards and war booty." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.046

In the Hadith verse above, Mohammed is reported as saying that for a moslem, religious fighting, is the same as a religious devotion.
i.e. Jihad [religious fighting], is as if a muslim 'fasts and prays continuously'.
And in Koran 9.111, Allah guarantees that a Mujahid [religious fighter] will enter Paradise, if he is killed, while seeking to kill Allah's enemies.

"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadith/bukhari/ #001.002.025
see also,
hadith/bukhari/ #004.052.065
hadith/bukhari/ #004.052.080i
hadith/bukhari/ #004.052.196

"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #001.002.025

All moslems, living within all secular nations, want only to destroy the structure and the society of those nations, and to kill all disbelievers [those who reject ISLAM].

Q.
Why so ?

A.
Because their 'faith' requires it of them.

In accordance with the 'lawful' instructions given to moslems, within the Koran.

Jihad is lawful.

Jihad is virtuous.

Jihad = = 'virtuously' murdering those who reject ISLAM

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'Aussie' moslem, Mohamed Elomar, in Syria/Iraq.

A moslem, in his preferred 'environment'.

Doing 'good works', in 'the cause of Allah'.

A MOSLEM HOMICIDAL MANIAC - 'AT HOME ON THE RANGE' WHERE THE LAWS OF ALLAH PREVAIL

Quote:

'Whosoever dies without participating in an expedition (jihad) nor having the intention to do so, dies on a branch of hypocrisy,'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2632768/Brisbane-woman-charged-supportin...
- Australian moslem, Mohamed Elomar, quoting ISLAMIC scripture

Google;
"Allah's Messenger said" "Whosoever dies without participating"

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Reply #12 - Apr 28^th, 2015 at 11:55am

issuevoter wrote on Apr 28^th, 2015 at 11:47am:

Once again, at the bottom of the problem is the Koran, which does incite the murder of infidels. In private Muslims believe it, but of course they cannot say it in public without giving themselves away.

Yes - I call this the 'never ever' doctrine:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1430185471

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #13 - May 3^rd, 2015 at 6:42pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 28^th, 2015 at 11:55am:

issuevoter wrote on Apr 28^th, 2015 at 11:47am:

Once again, at the bottom of the problem is the Koran, which does incite the murder of infidels. In private Muslims believe it, but of course they cannot say it in public without giving themselves away.

Yes - I call this the 'never ever' doctrine:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1430185471

Who is going to revise the Koran, Gandy, and Moihammed's role in Islam? How will the do it.

What will happen to sharia and jihad?

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