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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #120 - Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 6:03pm

Kat wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 1:44pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 8:29am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

Decisions decsions...which new bike to get

road or off road?

New roadie

Treks or Giants are good.

I know, I own two Giants already. I'm looking at a 3rd and just got offered a good price on one, 10k down to 8400

You would pay that sort of money for a push bike?

Heavy emphasis on the "Dill" in Dillermand

So what would you propose I do, spends 1000 on a cheap piece of poo that will fall apart and need maintaining all the time.

Things of quality cost money

I've never paid $1000 for any of my bikes, except for the e-bike, which
was approx. $1000.

And none have required more than normal, regular maintenance.

I might add, none of them are of the cheapie 'K-mart' variety either, again
excepting the e-bike, which is Chinese-made, but appears to be well-made
and has been very reliable.

Most are older Australian or Japanese-made and have a bit of quality about
them.

E bikes for $1000 would be a real shitter.

It would cost more than that for a half way decent kit to convert my GT dual suspension mountain bike to electric.
https://www.pirez.com.au/collections/mid-drive-conversion-kits

The replacement cost for a Shimano electric motor for E Bike is more than $1000 that doesn't include battery or other gear.

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #121 - Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 6:33pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 5:35pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 5:20pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 3:24pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 8:29am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

Decisions decsions...which new bike to get

road or off road?

New roadie

Treks or Giants are good.

I know, I own two Giants already. I'm looking at a 3rd and just got offered a good price on one, 10k down to 8400

You would pay that sort of money for a push bike?

Heavy emphasis on the "Dill" in Dillermand

So what would you propose I do, spends 1000 on a cheap piece of poo that will fall apart and need maintaining all the time.

Things of quality cost money

You can by a good 2nd hand car for $10k

And how much maintenance does a push bike require?

I'd say the newer ones even less.

But $10k .... not on your Nelly.

Can't be justified..... more money than sense.

Says the man whose next purchase will undoubtedly be a zimmer frame.

No it was a Honda CRV.

You just stick to your pushie & lycra Luvvie Kiss

Strangely enough being made fun of for my physical fitness by an obese old dodderer doesnt sting at all.

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #122 - Sep 4^th, 2021 at 5:56pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 6:03pm:

Kat wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 1:44pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 8:29am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

Decisions decsions...which new bike to get

road or off road?

New roadie

Treks or Giants are good.

I know, I own two Giants already. I'm looking at a 3rd and just got offered a good price on one, 10k down to 8400

You would pay that sort of money for a push bike?

Heavy emphasis on the "Dill" in Dillermand

So what would you propose I do, spends 1000 on a cheap piece of poo that will fall apart and need maintaining all the time.

Things of quality cost money

I've never paid $1000 for any of my bikes, except for the e-bike, which
was approx. $1000.

And none have required more than normal, regular maintenance.

I might add, none of them are of the cheapie 'K-mart' variety either, again
excepting the e-bike, which is Chinese-made, but appears to be well-made
and has been very reliable.

Most are older Australian or Japanese-made and have a bit of quality about
them.

E bikes for $1000 would be a real shitter.

It would cost more than that for a half way decent kit

to convert my GT dual suspension mountain bike to electric.
https://www.pirez.com.au/collections/mid-drive-conversion-kits

The replacement cost for a Shimano electric motor for E Bike is more than $1000 that doesn't include battery or other gear.

It's not, and it doesn't.

Try again.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 32007 Gender:	Re: The Bike Shed. Reply #123 - Sep 4^th, 2021 at 6:42pm rhino wrote on Sep 30^th, 2019 at 12:15pm: recently bought this, Scott Aspect entry level mountain bike. Taken it bush a few times and performed well. https://www.bikesociety.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/2019-Scott-Aspect-970.... You mean "you" performed well?
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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #124 - Sep 4^th, 2021 at 6:52pm

rhino wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 6:33pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 5:35pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 5:20pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 3:24pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 8:29am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

Decisions decsions...which new bike to get

road or off road?

New roadie

Treks or Giants are good.

I know, I own two Giants already. I'm looking at a 3rd and just got offered a good price on one, 10k down to 8400

You would pay that sort of money for a push bike?

Heavy emphasis on the "Dill" in Dillermand

So what would you propose I do, spends 1000 on a cheap piece of poo that will fall apart and need maintaining all the time.

Things of quality cost money

You can by a good 2nd hand car for $10k

And how much maintenance does a push bike require?

I'd say the newer ones even less.

But $10k .... not on your Nelly.

Can't be justified..... more money than sense.

Says the man whose next purchase will undoubtedly be a zimmer frame.

No it was a Honda CRV.

You just stick to your pushie & lycra Luvvie Kiss

Strangely enough being made fun of for my physical fitness by an obese old dodderer doesnt sting at all.

Never mentioned your physical fitness or lack there of ....

you seem to have an exposed nerve

is it because of your dress sense & choice of mobility?

I promise not to ask my passenger to open the car door when we go to pass you.

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: The Bike Shed. Reply #125 - Sep 4^th, 2021 at 8:07pm You probably get puffed out walking to your car you poor old bugger. I dont ride on roads anyway, due to idiots like you.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21291 Gordon Gender:	Re: The Bike Shed. Reply #126 - Sep 4^th, 2021 at 8:09pm rhino wrote on Sep 4^th, 2021 at 8:07pm: You probably get puffed out walking to your car you poor old bugger. I'm cool with decrepit old buggers using electric bikes, at least they're out doing something.
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: The Bike Shed. Reply #127 - Sep 4^th, 2021 at 9:28pm Gordon wrote on Sep 4^th, 2021 at 8:09pm: rhino wrote on Sep 4^th, 2021 at 8:07pm: You probably get puffed out walking to your car you poor old bugger. I'm cool with decrepit old buggers using electric bikes, at least they're out doing something. I share the road with anyone.
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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #128 - Sep 4^th, 2021 at 9:54pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 4^th, 2021 at 8:09pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 4^th, 2021 at 8:07pm:

You probably get puffed out walking to your car you poor old bugger.

I'm cool with decrepit old buggers using electric bikes, at least they're out doing something.

Thanks.
My wife has an E-bike. It is really good.
The hills were hard on her back, so it was painful, so cycling was not so much fun.
So cycling was 'limited'.
We get her an E-bike.
Now hills are no pain, so cycling is fun, so we cycle whenever, wherever we want.
Cycling is fun and she is very happy to cycle again tomorrow.

It don't get no better than that.
That is an identical story I have heard from other 'E-Cyclists.'

Instead of 'limited' cycling once you are 60's, you can now happily cycle for the foreseeable future.

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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 32007 Gender:	Re: The Bike Shed. Reply #129 - Sep 5^th, 2021 at 3:38pm rhino wrote on Sep 4^th, 2021 at 8:07pm: You probably get puffed out walking to your car you poor old bugger. I dont ride on roads anyway, due to idiots like you. I'm sure you meant you removed the idiot factor from the roadway by using a bike path... that would be a first.
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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #130 - Sep 6^th, 2021 at 8:48am

rhino wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 5:22pm:

Kat wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 1:44pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 8:29am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

Decisions decsions...which new bike to get

road or off road?

New roadie

Treks or Giants are good.

I know, I own two Giants already. I'm looking at a 3rd and just got offered a good price on one, 10k down to 8400

You would pay that sort of money for a push bike?

Heavy emphasis on the "Dill" in Dillermand

So what would you propose I do, spends 1000 on a cheap piece of poo that will fall apart and need maintaining all the time.

Things of quality cost money

I've never paid $1000 for any of my bikes, except for the e-bike, which
was approx. $1000.

And none have required more than normal, regular maintenance.

I might add, none of them are of the cheapie 'K-mart' variety either, again
excepting the e-bike, which is Chinese-made, but appears to be well-made
and has been very reliable.

Most are older Australian or Japanese-made and have a bit of quality about
them.

Bikes have evolved, regardless of the quality of a 30 year old bike there is no way it can match an up market quality road bike these days, light years apart.

Indeed, I mean the $8400 bike wasn't like a crappy old Repco. Its carbon fibre frame, fork, wheels, stem, handlebars, seat, seat rails with discs and electronic shifting, aero wheels, power meter.

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #131 - Sep 6^th, 2021 at 9:33am

Gnads wrote on Sep 5^th, 2021 at 3:38pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 4^th, 2021 at 8:07pm:

You probably get puffed out walking to your car you poor old bugger. I dont ride on roads anyway, due to idiots like you.

I'm sure you meant you removed the idiot factor from the roadway by using a bike path...

that would be a first.

No, I ride MTB on bush tracks most of the time. however, bikes have the same right of way on a road as cars do, you need to grow up and get over it. Put your big boy pants on.

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #132 - Sep 6^th, 2021 at 9:38am

rhino wrote on Sep 6^th, 2021 at 9:33am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 5^th, 2021 at 3:38pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 4^th, 2021 at 8:07pm:

You probably get puffed out walking to your car you poor old bugger. I dont ride on roads anyway, due to idiots like you.

I'm sure you meant you removed the idiot factor from the roadway by using a bike path...

that would be a first.

No, I ride MTB on bush tracks most of the time. however, bikes have the same right of way on a road as cars do, you need to grow up and get over it. Put your big boy pants on.

I can never figure that one out rhino. I get being annoyed by big groups riding more than 2 side by side, but I still get honked by a clown even when I'm riding by myself. At most you're held up by 30 seconds by a bike on the road.

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #133 - Sep 6^th, 2021 at 10:03am

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 6^th, 2021 at 9:38am:

rhino wrote on Sep 6^th, 2021 at 9:33am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 5^th, 2021 at 3:38pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 4^th, 2021 at 8:07pm:

You probably get puffed out walking to your car you poor old bugger. I dont ride on roads anyway, due to idiots like you.

I'm sure you meant you removed the idiot factor from the roadway by using a bike path...

that would be a first.

No, I ride MTB on bush tracks most of the time. however, bikes have the same right of way on a road as cars do, you need to grow up and get over it. Put your big boy pants on.

I can never figure that one out rhino. I get being annoyed by big groups riding more than 2 side by side, but I still get honked by a clown even when I'm riding by myself. At most you're held up by 30 seconds by a bike on the road.

Because they can pretend they are big men as they drive past in their big cars, little you on your small inferior bike. For the ego challenged, cars are like guns, they give people with inferiority complexes power they cant or dont have otherwise.

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #134 - Sep 6^th, 2021 at 10:52am

rhino wrote on Sep 6^th, 2021 at 10:03am:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 6^th, 2021 at 9:38am:

rhino wrote on Sep 6^th, 2021 at 9:33am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 5^th, 2021 at 3:38pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 4^th, 2021 at 8:07pm:

You probably get puffed out walking to your car you poor old bugger. I dont ride on roads anyway, due to idiots like you.

I'm sure you meant you removed the idiot factor from the roadway by using a bike path...

that would be a first.

No, I ride MTB on bush tracks most of the time. however, bikes have the same right of way on a road as cars do, you need to grow up and get over it. Put your big boy pants on.

I can never figure that one out rhino. I get being annoyed by big groups riding more than 2 side by side, but I still get honked by a clown even when I'm riding by myself. At most you're held up by 30 seconds by a bike on the road.

Because they can pretend they are big men as they drive past in their big cars, little you on your small inferior bike. For the ego challenged, cars are like guns, they give people with inferiority complexes power they cant or dont have otherwise.

Indeed, thats why it tends to be utes who do it.

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