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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #105 - Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:57am

Gordon wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:49pm:

I just got my little bloke on of these.

https://woolyswheels.com.au/collections/childrens-bikes-and-scooters/products/20...

Nice, at that price specialized make sense. At my price range they don't, the name makes them crank up the price. V-brakes at that range are ok, just not overly good for anything higher

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #106 - Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 11:13am

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:57am:

Gordon wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:49pm:

I just got my little bloke on of these.

https://woolyswheels.com.au/collections/childrens-bikes-and-scooters/products/20...

Nice, at that price specialized make sense. At my price range they don't, the name makes them crank up the price. V-brakes at that range are ok, just not overly good for anything higher

It's a bit overpriced, but with kids bikes it's important, particularly with boys for their bike to have a bit of name cred, but most important good kids bikes hold their value.

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #107 - Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 11:31am

Gordon wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 11:13am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:57am:

Gordon wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:49pm:

I just got my little bloke on of these.

https://woolyswheels.com.au/collections/childrens-bikes-and-scooters/products/20...

Nice, at that price specialized make sense. At my price range they don't, the name makes them crank up the price. V-brakes at that range are ok, just not overly good for anything higher

It's a bit overpriced, but with kids bikes it's important, particularly with boys for their bike to have a bit of name cred, but most important good kids bikes hold their value.

I agree, quality is important. You don't want some cheap piece of crap that will fall apart. Anything from the name brands will do the job for this. I was just more about the bikes I'm looking at, the Specialised is 1000 bucks more than the equivalent Giant yet doesn't have carbon fibre aero wheels, a power meter or tubeless tires.

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #109 - Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16am

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

Decisions decsions...which new bike to get

road or off road?

New roadie

Treks or Giants are good.

I know, I own two Giants already. I'm looking at a 3rd and just got offered a good price on one, 10k down to 8400

You would pay that sort of money for a push bike?

Heavy emphasis on the "Dill" in Dillermand

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #110 - Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 8:29am

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

Decisions decsions...which new bike to get

road or off road?

New roadie

Treks or Giants are good.

I know, I own two Giants already. I'm looking at a 3rd and just got offered a good price on one, 10k down to 8400

You would pay that sort of money for a push bike?

Heavy emphasis on the "Dill" in Dillermand

So what would you propose I do, spends 1000 on a cheap piece of poo that will fall apart and need maintaining all the time.

Things of quality cost money

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #111 - Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 1:37pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

Decisions decsions...which new bike to get

road or off road?

New roadie

Treks or Giants are good.

I know, I own two Giants already. I'm looking at a 3rd and just got offered a good price on one, 10k down to 8400

You would pay that sort of money for a push bike?

Heavy emphasis on the "Dill" in Dillermand

It would want to be gold-plated or VERY rare before I'd even consider it.

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #112 - Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 1:44pm

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 8:29am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

Decisions decsions...which new bike to get

road or off road?

New roadie

Treks or Giants are good.

I know, I own two Giants already. I'm looking at a 3rd and just got offered a good price on one, 10k down to 8400

You would pay that sort of money for a push bike?

Heavy emphasis on the "Dill" in Dillermand

So what would you propose I do, spends 1000 on a cheap piece of poo that will fall apart and need maintaining all the time.

Things of quality cost money

I've never paid $1000 for any of my bikes, except for the e-bike, which
was approx. $1000.

And none have required more than normal, regular maintenance.

I might add, none of them are of the cheapie 'K-mart' variety either, again
excepting the e-bike, which is Chinese-made, but appears to be well-made
and has been very reliable.

Most are older Australian or Japanese-made and have a bit of quality about
them.

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #113 - Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 2:17pm

Kat wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 1:44pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 8:29am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

Decisions decsions...which new bike to get

road or off road?

New roadie

Treks or Giants are good.

I know, I own two Giants already. I'm looking at a 3rd and just got offered a good price on one, 10k down to 8400

You would pay that sort of money for a push bike?

Heavy emphasis on the "Dill" in Dillermand

So what would you propose I do, spends 1000 on a cheap piece of poo that will fall apart and need maintaining all the time.

Things of quality cost money

I've never paid $1000 for any of my bikes, except for the e-bike, which
was approx. $1000.

And none have required more than normal, regular maintenance.

I might add, none of them are of the cheapie 'K-mart' variety either, again
excepting the e-bike, which is Chinese-made, but appears to be well-made
and has been very reliable.

Most are older Australian or Japanese-made and have a bit of quality about
them.

I will state that I use my bike for Gran Fondos and stuff.

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #114 - Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 3:24pm

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 8:29am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

Decisions decsions...which new bike to get

road or off road?

New roadie

Treks or Giants are good.

I know, I own two Giants already. I'm looking at a 3rd and just got offered a good price on one, 10k down to 8400

You would pay that sort of money for a push bike?

Heavy emphasis on the "Dill" in Dillermand

So what would you propose I do, spends 1000 on a cheap piece of poo that will fall apart and need maintaining all the time.

Things of quality cost money

You can by a good 2nd hand car for $10k

And how much maintenance does a push bike require?

I'd say the newer ones even less.

But $10k .... not on your Nelly.

Can't be justified..... more money than sense.

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #115 - Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 5:20pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 3:24pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 8:29am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

Decisions decsions...which new bike to get

road or off road?

New roadie

Treks or Giants are good.

I know, I own two Giants already. I'm looking at a 3rd and just got offered a good price on one, 10k down to 8400

You would pay that sort of money for a push bike?

Heavy emphasis on the "Dill" in Dillermand

So what would you propose I do, spends 1000 on a cheap piece of poo that will fall apart and need maintaining all the time.

Things of quality cost money

You can by a good 2nd hand car for $10k

And how much maintenance does a push bike require?

I'd say the newer ones even less.

But $10k .... not on your Nelly.

Can't be justified..... more money than sense.

Says the man whose next purchase will undoubtedly be a zimmer frame.

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #116 - Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 5:22pm

Kat wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 1:44pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 8:29am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

Decisions decsions...which new bike to get

road or off road?

New roadie

Treks or Giants are good.

I know, I own two Giants already. I'm looking at a 3rd and just got offered a good price on one, 10k down to 8400

You would pay that sort of money for a push bike?

Heavy emphasis on the "Dill" in Dillermand

So what would you propose I do, spends 1000 on a cheap piece of poo that will fall apart and need maintaining all the time.

Things of quality cost money

I've never paid $1000 for any of my bikes, except for the e-bike, which
was approx. $1000.

And none have required more than normal, regular maintenance.

I might add, none of them are of the cheapie 'K-mart' variety either, again
excepting the e-bike, which is Chinese-made, but appears to be well-made
and has been very reliable.

Most are older Australian or Japanese-made and have a bit of quality about
them.

Bikes have evolved, regardless of the quality of a 30 year old bike there is no way it can match an up market quality road bike these days, light years apart.

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #117 - Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 5:33pm

rhino wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 5:22pm:

Kat wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 1:44pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 8:29am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

Decisions decsions...which new bike to get

road or off road?

New roadie

Treks or Giants are good.

I know, I own two Giants already. I'm looking at a 3rd and just got offered a good price on one, 10k down to 8400

You would pay that sort of money for a push bike?

Heavy emphasis on the "Dill" in Dillermand

So what would you propose I do, spends 1000 on a cheap piece of poo that will fall apart and need maintaining all the time.

Things of quality cost money

I've never paid $1000 for any of my bikes, except for the e-bike, which
was approx. $1000.

And none have required more than normal, regular maintenance.

I might add, none of them are of the cheapie 'K-mart' variety either, again
excepting the e-bike, which is Chinese-made, but appears to be well-made
and has been very reliable.

Most are older Australian or Japanese-made and have a bit of quality about
them.

Bikes have evolved, regardless of the quality of a 30 year old bike there is no way it can match an up market quality road bike these days, light years apart.

Please, show me where I claimed otherwise.

Doesn't alter the fact that the vast majority of my bikes are quality, not cheap rubbish.

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #118 - Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 5:35pm

rhino wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 5:20pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 3:24pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 8:29am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

Decisions decsions...which new bike to get

road or off road?

New roadie

Treks or Giants are good.

I know, I own two Giants already. I'm looking at a 3rd and just got offered a good price on one, 10k down to 8400

You would pay that sort of money for a push bike?

Heavy emphasis on the "Dill" in Dillermand

So what would you propose I do, spends 1000 on a cheap piece of poo that will fall apart and need maintaining all the time.

Things of quality cost money

You can by a good 2nd hand car for $10k

And how much maintenance does a push bike require?

I'd say the newer ones even less.

But $10k .... not on your Nelly.

Can't be justified..... more money than sense.

Says the man whose next purchase will undoubtedly be a zimmer frame.

No it was a Honda CRV.

You just stick to your pushie & lycra Luvvie Kiss

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Re: The Bike Shed.
Reply #119 - Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 5:36pm

Kat wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 5:33pm:

rhino wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 5:22pm:

Kat wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 1:44pm:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 8:29am:

Gnads wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2021 at 7:16am:

John Dillermand wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2021 at 9:56am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 2^nd, 2021 at 8:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 25^th, 2021 at 6:35am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 4:28pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 24^th, 2021 at 12:25pm:

Decisions decsions...which new bike to get

road or off road?

New roadie

Treks or Giants are good.

I know, I own two Giants already. I'm looking at a 3rd and just got offered a good price on one, 10k down to 8400

You would pay that sort of money for a push bike?

Heavy emphasis on the "Dill" in Dillermand

So what would you propose I do, spends 1000 on a cheap piece of poo that will fall apart and need maintaining all the time.

Things of quality cost money

I've never paid $1000 for any of my bikes, except for the e-bike, which
was approx. $1000.

And none have required more than normal, regular maintenance.

I might add, none of them are of the cheapie 'K-mart' variety either, again
excepting the e-bike, which is Chinese-made, but appears to be well-made
and has been very reliable.

Most are older Australian or Japanese-made and have a bit of quality about
them.

Bikes have evolved, regardless of the quality of a 30 year old bike there is no way it can match an up market quality road bike these days, light years apart.

Please, show me where I claimed otherwise.

Doesn't alter the fact that the vast majority of my bikes are quality, not cheap rubbish.

doesnt change the fact that quality modern bikes are far superior to your old quality bikes.

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