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Reply #60 - Dec 10^th, 2014 at 7:02am

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 9^th, 2014 at 11:35pm:

I do enjoy reading Herbie, a non-citizen dictating to Australians what their values are and should be. I enjoy even more, Herbie, a non-resident of the UK dictating to the British how their society should be acting. We just need him, a non-resident and non-citizen of China to dictate to the Chinese how they should be acting. Share 'round, Herbie! Share it 'round! Roll Eyes

I lived for four years with a Russian aunt who could have been sent to the gulag if she had dared voice a liberal opinion while she was buying her cabbages and beetroots down at the Saturday markets just north of Moscow.

It's a huge privilege for us to so freely and so publicly say practically anything we like here without fear of expecting heavy pounding at the front door at midnight by large, humourless men in dark uniforms with deaths head silver insignia.

The Islamisation of western nations is well on its way, and it only needs that Muslim numbers increase to critical mass before they will then have a democratic mandate to govern and introduce their own sharia laws.

If you fancy yourself as having more liberal-progressive values than I do, and having more tolerance-and-understanding for society's unconventional bohemians ... the homosexuals, the atheists, the 'alternative life-stylists', the feminists, the criminals ... then it's to you and your ilk that the Muslim religious police will first pay a visit long before they come around to my place.

You're perception of what the Muslim mentality comprises is delusional, Brian. You defend the Muslims at every opportunity as though they share your values of 'liberal-progressive' Christian tolerance and multicultural advocacy.

Give these people political power and it won't be the liberals or the moderates among them who will be holding the whip-hand.

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Reply #62 - Dec 11^th, 2014 at 9:15pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 10^th, 2014 at 7:02am:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 9^th, 2014 at 11:35pm:

I do enjoy reading Herbie, a non-citizen dictating to Australians what their values are and should be. I enjoy even more, Herbie, a non-resident of the UK dictating to the British how their society should be acting. We just need him, a non-resident and non-citizen of China to dictate to the Chinese how they should be acting. Share 'round, Herbie! Share it 'round! Roll Eyes

I lived for four years with a Russian aunt who could have been sent to the gulag if she had dared voice a liberal opinion while she was buying her cabbages and beetroots down at the Saturday markets just north of Moscow.

It's a huge privilege for us to so freely and so publicly say practically anything we like here without fear of expecting heavy pounding at the front door at midnight by large, humourless men in dark uniforms with deaths head silver insignia.

The Islamisation of western nations is well on its way, and it only needs that Muslim numbers increase to critical mass before they will then have a democratic mandate to govern and introduce their own sharia laws.

If you fancy yourself as having more liberal-progressive values than I do, and having more tolerance-and-understanding for society's unconventional bohemians ... the homosexuals, the atheists, the 'alternative life-stylists', the feminists, the criminals ... then it's to you and your ilk that the Muslim religious police will first pay a visit long before they come around to my place.

You're perception of what the Muslim mentality comprises is delusional, Brian. You defend the Muslims at every opportunity as though they share your values of 'liberal-progressive' Christian tolerance and multicultural advocacy.

Give these people political power and it won't be the liberals or the moderates among them who will be holding the whip-hand.

Herbie’s just cranky he isn’t holding the whip anymore.

There there, Herbie. We’ll let the sub-humans stew in their own juices. For now.

They’ll be dealt with in the fullness of time.

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Reply #63 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 9:43am

The UK's only freely-elected male Muslim resigned from politics for the stated reason that the death-threats from a section of the UK's Muslim community could no longer be ignored, and were serious enough for him to do their bidding and retire from politics in order to protect himself and his family from dire consequences.

It doesn't matter that 90% of the Muslim community is happy to live their lives as passive and inoffensive.

It doesn't matter that 90% of a poisoned pie is delicious and harmless.

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Reply #64 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 10:12am

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 9:43am:

The UK's only freely-elected male Muslim resigned from politics for the stated reason that the death-threats from a section of the UK's Muslim community could no longer be ignored, and were serious enough for him to do their bidding and retire from politics in order to protect himself and his family from dire consequences.

It doesn't matter that 90% of the Muslim community is happy to live their lives as passive and inoffensive.

It doesn't matter that 90% of a poisoned pie is delicious and harmless.

Gee Herb, its almost as if you deliberately omitted the fact that this happened 7 years ago - or that there are a lot more sitting muslim MPs today: 10 according to this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Muslims#Members_of_Parliament

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #65 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 10:33am

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 10:12am:

Gee Herb, its almost as if you deliberately omitted the fact that this happened 7 years ago - or that there are a lot more sitting muslim MPs today: 10 according to this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Muslims#Members_of_Parliament

I knew you were crouched down in the tall grass watching my every word.

And you've fallen head-long into the trap I laid for you.

The fact that Muslims are now in such number in the British parliament can only mean one thing:

They are self-censoring themselves so as not to attract the ire of the death-jihadists. They've learnt their lesson from their predecessor who quit politics rather than continue to speak freely and fearlessly at risk of assassination.

In other words this current bunch of Muslims are nothing but tokens for fear of upsetting the hardliners out there in the Muslim community.

They are 'behaving themselves' by not giving voice to anything that might be construed as support for punishing terrorists returning from serving with al Qaeda or ISIS. They've learnt to keep their mouths shut 'if they know what's good for them'.

And what this means is a roll-back of British democracy in its parliament.

It's a textbook case study of why Muslims shouldn't be elected to western governments.

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Dirty Paki Khunt Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103009	Re: Islam and Australian secular values Reply #66 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 10:57am I hope you didn’t get that textbook at the library, Herbie. It would have been censored by the Muslims. This explains how you got your facts all wrong. I blame Islam.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islam and Australian secular values Reply #68 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 1:48pm HB we've talked about these posts before - and I thought we had an understanding that you wouldn't be making them any more. Please desist.
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Reply #69 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 2:21pm

I sympathise with these Muslim politicians who find themselves under threat from the hardliners, but then it behooves them to resign from the political arena rather than remain there as puppets and tokens.

Rather than be part of a charade, they should declare themselves compromised, and unable to fulfill their obligations properly.

No one could blame them.

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Reply #70 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 2:40pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 2:21pm:

I sympathise with these Muslim politicians who find themselves under threat from the hardliners, but then it behooves them to resign from the political arena rather than remain there as puppets and tokens.

Rather than be part of a charade, they should declare themselves compromised, and unable to fulfill their obligations properly.

No one could blame them.

And then they should be dealt with in the fullness of time, no?

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Reply #71 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:17pm

Here we witness yet another example of two destructively delinquent members whose sole purpose in posting here is to trash-and-vandalise an otherwise perfectly reasonable set of opinion pieces.

Why FD tolerates these destructive termites is quite beyond me.

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After writing this, I headed over to the other thread to find this ...

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Re: Islam and Australian secular values
Reply #72 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 9:36pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:17pm:

Here we witness yet another example of two destructively delinquent members whose sole purpose in posting here is to trash-and-vandalise an otherwise perfectly reasonable set of opinion pieces.

Why FD tolerates these destructive termites is quite beyond me.

[1]Karnal
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And here we witness Herbie at his sharpest. Clearly his math education was a little lacking.

And clearly the pain of being wrong is getting to herbert's head. I'm not here to trash/vandalise anything. Herb's just cross because I'm right and he's wrong. I've contributed to many a discussion.

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Why the bugger did I get stuck on a planet chalked full of imbeciles?

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