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Reply #165 - Oct 21st, 2014 at 8:03pm
 
Freedumb wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 5:35pm:
My god.

I would bang my head against the wall if I didn't find the fact that I have to continuously explain myself to Yadda a little amusing.


The amusement quickly fades, I can assure you, Freedumb.   Shocked
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Reply #166 - Oct 21st, 2014 at 10:25pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 8:03pm:
Freedumb wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 5:35pm:
My god.

I would bang my head against the wall if I didn't find the fact that I have to continuously explain myself to Yadda a little amusing.



The amusement quickly fades, I can assure you, Freedumb.   Shocked





Aaaaaaawwwww!

Is that so, Brian ?



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #167 - Oct 21st, 2014 at 10:44pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 11:52am:
Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2014 at 8:35am:
Well, secularism is not based on Christianity.  Atheism isn't either. The anti-slavery movement was deeply influenced by Christianity but that does not mean that if you are against slavery you are therefore a Christian. Influence, that is very different.

You are being stupid by insisting on falsely attributing things to others.



The sheer audacity...

Honestly, what can one say?



I say, in all honesty your reply was crap, poo. Are you buggered in the head?
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Reply #168 - Oct 21st, 2014 at 10:50pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 8:03pm:
Freedumb wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 5:35pm:
My god.

I would bang my head against the wall if I didn't find the fact that I have to continuously explain myself to Yadda a little amusing.


The amusement quickly fades, I can assure you, Freedumb.   Shocked



Why?

Answer.

Because you are a bigot, with an attention span of more or less than your racism!


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Reply #169 - Oct 21st, 2014 at 11:48pm
 
Adamant wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 10:50pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 8:03pm:
Freedumb wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 5:35pm:
My god.

I would bang my head against the wall if I didn't find the fact that I have to continuously explain myself to Yadda a little amusing.


The amusement quickly fades, I can assure you, Freedumb.   Shocked



Why?

Answer.

Because you are a bigot, with an attention span of more or less than your racism!


Or vice versa! Roll Eyes


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Reply #170 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 12:09pm
 
Adamant wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 10:44pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 11:52am:
Soren wrote on Oct 11th, 2014 at 8:35am:
Well, secularism is not based on Christianity.  Atheism isn't either. The anti-slavery movement was deeply influenced by Christianity but that does not mean that if you are against slavery you are therefore a Christian. Influence, that is very different.

You are being stupid by insisting on falsely attributing things to others.



The sheer audacity...

Honestly, what can one say?



I say, in all honesty your reply was crap, poo. Are you buggered in the head?


Zing! Adamant strikes again. It will take me quite some time to recover from that one.
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #171 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 6:13pm
 
Yadda wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 10:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 8:03pm:
Freedumb wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 5:35pm:
My god.

I would bang my head against the wall if I didn't find the fact that I have to continuously explain myself to Yadda a little amusing.



The amusement quickly fades, I can assure you, Freedumb.   Shocked





Aaaaaaawwwww!

Is that so, Brian ?

Smiley



In some ways, Y, you remind me of some of the primitive AIs I used to play with back in the 1980s.   You're slightly more advanced than Mark. V. Shaney or Eliza but not by much.  You still fail the Turing Test as all your arguments are ultimately circular.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #172 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:05pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2014 at 6:13pm:
Yadda wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 10:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 8:03pm:
Freedumb wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 5:35pm:
My god.

I would bang my head against the wall if I didn't find the fact that I have to continuously explain myself to Yadda a little amusing.



The amusement quickly fades, I can assure you, Freedumb.   Shocked





Aaaaaaawwwww!

Is that so, Brian ?

Smiley



In some ways,

Y, you remind me of some of the primitive AIs I used to play with

back in the 1980s.   You're slightly more advanced than Mark. V. Shaney or Eliza but not by much.  You still fail the Turing Test as

all your arguments are ultimately circular.    Roll Eyes




Not really.



Brian,

Really, i'm more like a little kid, who has been given a toy drum.

And i just keep banging it, and banging it, and banging it !!!



You have met one of those little kids, haven't you Brian ?

That's me !!!!!!!!!      Grin




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Reply #173 - Oct 22nd, 2014 at 7:10pm
 
Yes, I have met those sorts of kids.  I'm glad you're admitting how childish and counter-productive your antics are.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #174 - Nov 8th, 2014 at 12:44pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 10:43am:
perhaps you need to find your sense of humour?   

Otherwise we might conclude that you're a bit of a "stiff neck"? 



Hands up all with NO sense of humour!

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Reply #175 - Nov 10th, 2014 at 11:42am
 
Soren wrote on Nov 8th, 2014 at 12:44pm:
|dev|null wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 10:43am:
perhaps you need to find your sense of humour?   

Otherwise we might conclude that you're a bit of a "stiff neck"? 



Hands up all with NO sense of humour!

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Who invented the word "puritan"?    Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #176 - Nov 10th, 2014 at 12:40pm
 
Are you suggesting it was made up? Better let Brian know. He likes to keep tabs on which are the original terms and which are the made up ones. Probably something to do with his days as an English professor.
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Reply #177 - Nov 10th, 2014 at 5:10pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Nov 10th, 2014 at 11:42am:
Soren wrote on Nov 8th, 2014 at 12:44pm:
|dev|null wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 10:43am:
perhaps you need to find your sense of humour?   

Otherwise we might conclude that you're a bit of a "stiff neck"? 



Hands up all with NO sense of humour!

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index_files/holler.jpg


Who invented the word "puritan"?    Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Mohammed?
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Reply #178 - Nov 11th, 2014 at 12:39pm
 
Soren wrote on Nov 10th, 2014 at 5:10pm:
|dev|null wrote on Nov 10th, 2014 at 11:42am:
Soren wrote on Nov 8th, 2014 at 12:44pm:
|dev|null wrote on Oct 21st, 2014 at 10:43am:
perhaps you need to find your sense of humour?   

Otherwise we might conclude that you're a bit of a "stiff neck"? 



Hands up all with NO sense of humour!

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index_files/holler.jpg


Who invented the word "puritan"?    Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Mohammed?


Is that him in the middle there?   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin

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Reply #179 - Nov 20th, 2014 at 2:15pm
 
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qur'an 5.32: Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

qur'an 5.33: Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,


muslims and their apologists try to tell us that 5.32 is proof that islam is a religion of peace (they cherry pick the *who kills a soul* line), when in fact it is part and parcel of two verses which clearly teach that it is the islamic duty of muslims to torture and murder those you consider are causing corruption.

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Who causes corruption and is worthy of torture and murder?

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qur'an 2.8: And of the people are some who say, "We believe in Allah and the Last Day," but they are not believers.

qur'an 2.10: In their hearts is disease, so Allah has increased their disease; and for them is a painful punishment because they [habitually] used to lie.

qur'an 2.11: And when it is said to them, "Do not cause
corruption on the earth
," they say, "We are but reformers."

qur'an 2.12: Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not.


People who say they are believers, but are not believers. In other words (hypocrites), they are corrupters. islam preaches that muslims are to torture and murder hypocrites / corrupters.

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more direct qur'an references to who / what is a hypocrite or corrupter.

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qur'an 3.167: And that He might make evident those who are hypocrites. For it was said to them, "Come, fight in the way of Allah or [at least] defend." They said, "If we had known [there would be] fighting, we would have followed you." They were nearer to
disbelief that day than to faith, saying with their mouths what was not in their hearts. And Allah is most Knowing of what they conceal


muslims who don't go and fight are hypocrites / corrupters, this opens the door for muslims to torture and kill them, as 5.32 & 5.33 teach

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qur'an 4.88: What is [the matter] with you [that you are] two groups concerning the hypocrites, while Allah has made them fall back [into error and disbelief] for what they earned. Do you wish to guide those whom Allah has sent astray? And he whom Allah sends astray - never will you find for him a way [of guidance].


allah has made certain people hypocrites, muslims can not guide them. muslims can't guide them, what can they do with them? Well 5.32 & 5.33 tells us the islamic way, the old muslim torture and kill trick

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qur'an 4.89: They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah . But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.


Hypocrites / disbelievers will lead muslims astray, don't take them as allies, torture and kill them instead

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qur'an 4.138: Give tidings to the hypocrites that there is for them a painful punishment -

qur'an 4.145: Indeed, the hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire - and never will you find for them a helper

qur'an 9.68: Allah has promised the hypocrite men and hypocrite women and the disbelievers the fire of Hell, wherein they will abide eternally. It is sufficient for them. And Allah has cursed them, and for them is an enduring punishment.

qur'an 9.101: And among those around you of the bedouins are hypocrites, and [also] from the people of Madinah. They have become accustomed to hypocrisy. You, [O Muhammad], do not know them, [but] We know them. We will punish them twice [in this world]; then
they will be returned to a great punishment.

qur'an 33.73: [It was] so that Allah may punish the hypocrite men and hypocrite women and the men and women who associate others with Him and that Allah may accept repentance from the believing men and believing women. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

qur'an 48.6: And [that] He may punish the hypocrite men and hypocrite women, and the polytheist men and polytheist women - those who assume about Allah an assumption of evil nature. Upon them is a misfortune of evil nature; and Allah has become angry with them and
has cursed them and prepared for them Hell, and evil it is as a destination.


All of the above preach hatred an death to the hypocrite / corrupter.

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