Freedumb wrote on Oct 20
th, 2014 at 9:13pm:
Quote:Many persons on this forum who are also apologists for ISLAM and moslems, portray themselves on this forum as non-moslems.
But i would not be surprised if ever single one of those persons [those apologists for ISLAM and moslems] was actually a moslem, portraying themselves on this public forum as a non-moslem.
Because of the 'anonymity' which everyone enjoys on these online public forums, it is impossible to know, where they are 'coming from'.
But so many here are so averse to reason in their arguments, imo, that i would say that they have the moslem heart [which is not subject to truth and reason, imo].
Right, and what truth and reason would there be in assuming that myself and the other so-called "apologists" are Muslims? Because I can assure you right now, that I am not and I am very happy that I am not. I have a choice and for me, Islam is not it. In fact, I wouldn't want to be aligned with **ANY** religious doctrine or organisation. Nobody dictates to me how I think, I come to the conclusions myself. If they are wrong, I evolve from that.
That doesn't mean I can't respect the choices of others. I draw that "respect" line, however, when people perform horrid actions like beheading, blowing people up and rape in the name of a religious belief, or any other belief for that matter. Freedumb,
Setting aside the question of whether you may be a moslem, or not, lets 'focus in on' that fact that you insist that you
"respect the choices of others"
.
Freedumb,
Do you
"respect the choices of others"
when their 'law', makes murder lawful ?
Freedumb,
It is apparent [from what you have stated], that you even the
"respect the choices of others"
of being a moslem,
even when that choice aligns a person ['the moslem'] with a 'belief' that the murder of non-moslems is sanctioned/'sanctified'.
i.e. when murder is made lawful!
....because ISLAM does that!....ISLAM 'instructs' and informs the moslem, that a moslem can kill a non-moslem, AND, that that killing is not a crime!
Freedumb said....
"I draw that "respect" line, however, when people perform horrid actions like beheading, blowing people up and rape in the name of a religious belief,"
Freedumb,
No, you don't!
You have said, that you stand with, tolerance towards moslems.
Even though a moslem -
BY DEFINITION - is a follower of ISLAM.
And ISLAM, 'instructs' and informs the moslem, that a moslem can kill a non-moslem, AND, that that killing is not a crime!
THE LOGIC......
Yadda said....
Quote:Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.Google;
Shahada, confession of faith, of a muslim"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."
Today, many moslems - living in Australia - are insisting that we, Australians, must be forced to believe the
incredible;
"I'm a moslem, and i worship Allah, and i revere Mohammed his messenger.
And i know that Allah calls for the enslavement and/or murder of all non-moslems - THROUGH JIHAD [religious fighting, when moslems have that 'opportunity'].
But i don't follow that part of my faith.
HONEST!"

Dictionary;
incredible = =
1 impossible to believe.
2 difficult to believe; extraordinary. i
Freedumb wrote on Oct 20
th, 2014 at 9:13pm:
If you're going to make an accusation like that at least make it a logical one.
I just did.
People who want to tolerate ISLAM and to tolerate 'the moslem', are making the argument; that tolerating people [moslems] who want to make murder lawful, is OK!!!
Because in their law [i.e. the law of Mainstream ISLAM] murder [of those who are not moslems] is made lawful!!!
AND;
Your moslem 'friend' [here, in Australia] may deny that fact.
But that denial by your moslem 'friend' doesn't change -
THE FACT - of who a moslem is, nor change what his/her beliefs are.
IMAGE....

Aqsa Mahmood - the pretty moslem medical student, from the UK.
"'British' woman, Aqsa Mahmood, said she wanted to behead Christians with a “blunt knife”."