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Reply #270 - Dec 10th, 2014 at 12:28pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 10th, 2014 at 12:00am:
Why do you think that the "literalists" resort to extreme violence to try and sway the opinion of the mainstream majority, Soren?

Could it be because the mainstream majority are setting the course of Islam but the minority of "literalists" seek to change it?   Roll Eyes



Prince Charles has described threats to Christians in the Middle East as "an indescribable tragedy".

He made the comments in a message at the launch of a report by Catholic charity, Aid to the Church in Need.

This report said that religious freedom had deteriorated in 55 of the 196 countries studied in recent months.

Prince Charles said events in Iraq and Syria, where civil war and Islamic State extremists have caused thousands to be displaced, were "heartbreaking".

In Iraq, Christians have been driven out of their ancestral homes and maintain that "crimes against humanity" have been committed against them and Iraq's other minorities - such as the Yazidis.

And in Syria, more than 100,000 Syrians have lost their lives in the escalating conflict between forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad and those opposed to his rule.

The report claims that across the world, Christians remain the most persecuted religious minority, while Muslim countries predominate among states with the most serious violations of religious freedom.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29899571


Why divert to Kony and 'collective guilt and all that? Why not address the "indescribable tragedy"? Why not face facts about Christians remaining the most persecuted religious minority, while Muslim countries predominate among states with the most serious violations of religious freedom. 

You can't really maintain the victim mentality in the face of such evidence.

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Reply #271 - Dec 10th, 2014 at 12:50pm
 
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Another fake anti-Islam quote from the far right
Posted on November 24, 2014 by Bob Pitt      

We recently remarked, in connection with the New Daily Patriot falsely attributing a quote to Zakir Naik, on how the far right happily post and repost transparently fake Islamophobic propaganda without making the slightest attempt to check its accuracy.

Here is another recent example, from Britain First’s Facebook page. It quotes Marco Polo as stating that “the militant Muslim is the person who beheads the infidel, while the moderate Muslim holds the feet of the victim”. As you can see, it has proved quite popular, having been shared nearly 1,800 times.

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The book known as The Travels of Marco Polo dates from around the year 1300. The distinction between “militant Muslims” and “moderate Muslims” is clearly modern day terminology, and the claim that the “moderates” are not essentially different from violent terrorists is a familiar Islamophobic trope. It doesn’t require much intelligence to work out that the quotation couldn’t possibly have come from Marco Polo.

Even a quick google reveals the source of the quote. It can be found in a post entitled “Great Thinkers on Islam” that appeared in 2008 on Islam Watch, an extremist anti-Muslim website that claims to expose “this religion of terror, hatred and mayhem”.

As you can see, the quotation, albeit in a slightly different wording, is attributed to a philosophy professor named Dr M. Sabieski (an individual of such obscurity that, even if he actually existed, he has left no trace on the internet). A quote from The Travels of Marco Polo follows directly after, and reads: “The law which their prophet Mohamed has given to muslims is that any harm done to any one who does not accept their law and any appropriation of his goods, is no sin at all.”

What appears to have happened is that back in the day someone reproduced the quotation from “Sabieski” and misattributed it to Marco Polo. It has been circulating around the internet ever since, uncritically reposted by Islamophobes too stupid and bigoted to realise that Marco Polo never said anything of the sort.

[http://www.islamophobiawatch.co.uk/another-fake-anti-islam-quote-from-the-far-right/]
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Reply #272 - Dec 10th, 2014 at 1:13pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Dec 10th, 2014 at 12:50pm:
The book known as The Travels of Marco Polo dates from around the year 1300. The distinction between “militant Muslims” and “moderate Muslims” is clearly modern day terminology, and the claim that the “moderates” are not essentially different from violent terrorists is a familiar Islamophobic trope. It doesn’t require much intelligence to work out that the quotation couldn’t possibly have come from Marco Polo.


How about some quotes he DID say about islam?

"According to their doctrine, whatever is stolen or plundered from others of a different faith, is properly taken, and the theft is no crime; whilst those who suffer death or injury by the hands of Christians, are considered as martyrs. If, therefore, they were not prohibited and restrained by the powers who now govern them, they would commit many outrages. These principles are common to all Saracens"

"attention [went] to the doctrines of the Sect of the Saracens [i.e., Islam], which excuse every crime, yea, even murder itself, when committed on such as are not of their religion."

As well...

"Other "Islamophobic" allusions are scattered throughout Polo's account: the caliph of Baghdad's "daily thoughts were employed on the means of converting to his religion [Islam] those who resided within his dominions, or, upon their refusal, in forming pretences for putting them to death" (p.59); and Muslims "utterly detest the Christians" (p.316­­­­­), perhaps in accordance to Koran 60:4 — still cited by today's Islamists as mandating permanent hatred for non-Muslims."

"In short, the word "Islamophobia" is a ruse — also permitted in Islam under the doctrine of taqiyya — meant to paralyze all discussion concerning Muslim doctrine; and it has been successful: the United Nations has already presided over a conference titled "Confronting Islamophobia" and a Council of Europe summit condemned "Islamophobia." Moreover, the influential Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) regularly lambasts the specter of Islamophobia, calling it the "worst form of terrorism," and publishing two reports on the phenomenon."


I think you should not be such a bigoted racist.

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Reply #273 - Dec 10th, 2014 at 1:17pm
 
Not surprisingly, you're missing the point.  It isn't what he said but what is claimed he said, which has been shown to be demonstrably false.  Typical bigoted reaction from you though, excuse anything as long as it justifies an attack on your victims.    Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #274 - Dec 10th, 2014 at 2:44pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Dec 10th, 2014 at 1:17pm:
Not surprisingly, you're missing the point.  It isn't what he said but what is claimed he said, which has been shown to be demonstrably false.  Typical bigoted reaction from you though, excuse anything as long as it justifies an attack on your victims. 


You made no point,
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Reply #275 - Dec 10th, 2014 at 2:53pm
 
Adamant wrote on Dec 10th, 2014 at 2:44pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 10th, 2014 at 1:17pm:
Not surprisingly, you're missing the point.  It isn't what he said but what is claimed he said, which has been shown to be demonstrably false.  Typical bigoted reaction from you though, excuse anything as long as it justifies an attack on your victims. 


You made no point,
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I disagree.  I made a very valid point.  Islamophobes will claim any lie to further their hatred of Muslims.   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
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Reply #277 - Dec 11th, 2014 at 7:43pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Dec 11th, 2014 at 3:40pm:




Islamophobia feeds on our fear of an evil within

A very, very long, dry fap. Lacking the spittle that you bring to these discussion when you fap in front of everyone.
-10 points.




You’ve got hate mail: how Islamophobia takes root online

He doesn't like people dissing Islam. That's an argument??
Boo-hoo.



Islamophobia is racism, pure and simple

This one is as stupid as you are - Islam is a race-based ideology? How do the converts feel?
CONVERTOPHOBE!!!!!


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Reply #278 - Dec 12th, 2014 at 3:20pm
 
Whats wrong Soren?  Unable to tolerate different opinions?  I don't claim Islamophobia is racism, the article does.  I just included it for completeness sake.    Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
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Reply #280 - Dec 12th, 2014 at 6:32pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 3:20pm:
Whats wrong Soren?  Unable to tolerate different opinions?  I don't claim Islamophobia is racism, the article does.  I just included it for completeness sake.    Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin



Spoken like a true semi-literate (like Mohammed) - printed, therefore sacred, mustn't be criticised.   The fetish for writing of the semi-literates.

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Reply #281 - Dec 13th, 2014 at 12:26pm
 
Soren wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 6:32pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 3:20pm:
Whats wrong Soren?  Unable to tolerate different opinions?  I don't claim Islamophobia is racism, the article does.  I just included it for completeness sake.    Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin



Spoken like a true semi-literate (like Mohammed) - printed, therefore sacred, mustn't be criticised.   The fetish for writing of the semi-literates.



Unlike Mohammed, I can read and write.  Unlike you, I can walk and chew gum at the same time Soren.  You seem not to like the underside of Islamophobia being exposed.  Hard luck Soren, I'll keep doing it.   It's too much fun watching you defend the indefensible.  How many Muslim women have you grabbed the headscarves off of?   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #282 - Dec 13th, 2014 at 10:53pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Dec 13th, 2014 at 12:26pm:
Soren wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 6:32pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 3:20pm:
Whats wrong Soren?  Unable to tolerate different opinions?  I don't claim Islamophobia is racism, the article does.  I just included it for completeness sake.    Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin



Spoken like a true semi-literate (like Mohammed) - printed, therefore sacred, mustn't be criticised.   The fetish for writing of the semi-literates.



Unlike Mohammed, I can read and write.  Unlike you, I can walk and chew gum at the same time Soren.  You seem not to like the underside of Islamophobia being exposed.  Hard luck Soren, I'll keep doing it.   It's too much fun watching you defend the indefensible.  How many Muslim women have you grabbed the headscarves off of?   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin


Probably none, imagine the smell.
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Reply #283 - Dec 13th, 2014 at 11:00pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Dec 11th, 2014 at 3:40pm:


If you take into account reality and how many muslims there are forced to be muslims and threatened to stay, I'd say the largest quantity of people suffering islamophobia would be the forced muslims themselves. They would have a larger phobia of islam than anyone else. Poor children, mothers and fathers stuck in an evil ideology. I feel sorry for those good people wanting to leave the violence and submission of 3rd world ideology behind.
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Reply #284 - Dec 13th, 2014 at 11:14pm
 
Mattywisk wrote on Dec 13th, 2014 at 10:53pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 13th, 2014 at 12:26pm:
Soren wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 6:32pm:
|dev|null wrote on Dec 12th, 2014 at 3:20pm:
Whats wrong Soren?  Unable to tolerate different opinions?  I don't claim Islamophobia is racism, the article does.  I just included it for completeness sake.    Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin



Spoken like a true semi-literate (like Mohammed) - printed, therefore sacred, mustn't be criticised.   The fetish for writing of the semi-literates.



Unlike Mohammed, I can read and write.  Unlike you, I can walk and chew gum at the same time Soren.  You seem not to like the underside of Islamophobia being exposed.  Hard luck Soren, I'll keep doing it.   It's too much fun watching you defend the indefensible.  How many Muslim women have you grabbed the headscarves off of?   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin


Probably none, imagine the smell.


Ah, the aroma of freshly laid fromage.

Miam miam, no?
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