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Shameless duplicity [deceit] by UK moslems, on dis
Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 2:59am

Shameless duplicity [deceit] by UK moslems, on display

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Friends described Talha Asmal as an "ordinary Yorkshire lad."

Talha Asmal, a 17-year-old from Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, became Britain's youngest suicide bomber in June, when he attacked an Iraqi oil refinery with a car-bomb.

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Islamic State Is Not Islamic, Sex Grooming Gangs, Sharia Sportswear
One Month of Islam in Britain, June 2015

by Soeren Kern
July 21, 2015
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Addressing a security conference in Bratislava, the capital of Slovakia, on June 19, Prime Minister David Cameron called on Muslims to speak out against the "poisonous ideology" of Islamism that is radicalizing young British Muslims.

Prominent [UK] Muslims quickly pounced on Cameron's remarks.

Former Conservative Party co-chair Sayeeda Warsi, writing in the Guardian, argued that Cameron's "misguided emphasis" on "Muslim community complicity" would "at best fall on deaf ears, at worst further alienate" British Muslims.

Labour MP Yasmin Querishi said that British Muslims should not have to apologize for the radicalization of British Muslims.

"It feels absolutely awful," she said.

"I'm getting really tired of having to apologise."

Yousif Al-Khoei, of the London-based Center for Academic Shia Studies, described Cameron's comments as "unhelpful."

He said: "If the government is serious about tackling ISIS they really need to take serious steps to tackle rampant Islamophobia -- and we are actually recruiting more youths by targeting religion and targeting the people."

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6198/islamic-state-sex-grooming-uk

Observing the political 'reality' which is being brazenly exposed in the article above;
It is clear that the moslem community in the UK, today, now hold little fear, of openly [and without shame] displaying their political duplicity [deceit] towards the British nation and people [or even, towards the British political class].

The moslems of the UK are [politically] confident.

And moslems have reason to be so!

My estimation is that [when it starts] [liberal] political stability in Europe will unravel suddenly and very quickly.

The present prevailing [liberal] political stability in Europe will simply be 'overwhelmed' by the 'reality' of the day.

The promise of this fundamental change of 'political elites' in Europe will be unavoidable, as numbers [and the political confidence] of European moslems grow, and one day the moslem political tide will simply, inexorably, overwhelm the current [liberal] political system in Europe.

We are simply waiting for a political 'tipping point' to arrive.

And for the 'revolution' of change, to occur.

There is no-one 'there' [in Europe], who has the will to oppose the emerging political hegemony of the moslem political class, in Europe.

Clearly, the same fate awaits Australia too.

Will it be a bloodless 'revolution' ???

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #1 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 11:17am

In the past 6 decades, political stability has been the hallmark of all of the 'liberal' political systems, in Europe.

But i would venture that one day soon, the political stability of the 'liberal' political system, in many places in Europe, is going to be swept away, seemingly 'overnight'.

It is my opinion, that such a 'rout' could not happen to a strong and vibrant and honest political system/structure.

But there is every likelihood that such a rout will occur soon, in Europe.

The integrity [political honesty] of Europe's modern political systems have been a sham for many decades, imo.

It is an 'integrity' which has been built upon a foundation of lies and political corruption [i.e. the corruption of political power and the corruption of honest democratic principles, which underpin the stability of all 'liberal' political systems].

Google;

David Cameron, islam is a religion of peace

"Islam is a religion of peace."

- David Cameron, June 2015, 'calming the horses', after some violent ISLAMIST outrage

The day seems to be rapidly approaching, when Europeans will wake up and suddenly realise that the faux political liberalism of Europe [which Europeans have known all of their lives], has been 'outflanked' by even cleverer 'political operators', and has been swept away, overnight.

POLICE STATE

Swept away, by a group of politically astute moslems [adherents of ISLAM], moslems which those politically 'liberal' natives of Europe chose to tolerate, to help, to give political sanctuary to, and to politically empower.

And suddenly native Europeans, are going to find themselves politically powerless [in fact politically 'emasculated'], and at the mercy of a group of people who have surprisingly quickly, established a very new, and a very shocking, and a very illiberal political system!

LET MOSLEMS THEMSELVES, EXPLAIN THEIR REAL, AND 'UNVARNISHED', POLITICAL INCLINATIONS AND HOPES

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Please watch this YT...

Muslims being deceptive Islam EX-Muslims

      goto 4m 30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZx8cNSC9O0

n.b.
Behind closed doors,    many imam's [mosque leaders] living in the uk, have been witnessed, advising members of their community, that moslems must reject Western [UK political] values, rules, and laws.

Watch this YT, and watch such advice being given.

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Watch Channel 4 [UK] Undercover Mosque
on YT

Google;
dispatches undercover mosque, channel 4, -Return

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QUESTION;
Where is the political opposition to political ISLAM, in Europe ?

If there is any political opposition to political ISLAM, in Europe, to me, it seems very fragmented and politically powerless.

again, we have the example of the response of mainstream politics/politicians,    to the threat of a growing ISLAMIC hegemony in Europe.....

!!!!!!!       Cheesy

Google;

David Cameron, islam is a religion of peace

"Islam is a religion of peace."

- David Cameron, June 2015, 'calming the horses', after some violent ISLAMIST outrage

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Shameless duplicity [deceit] by UK moslems, on dis
Reply #2 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 11:57am

Yadda wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 11:17am:

And in the 40 years prior to those 6 decades Europe was the center of the most violent world changing armed conflict the world had ever seen, which amazingly happened with zero involvement with Islam.

You overestimate both the social stability of Europe and the political power of the Islamic Minority.

Please remember that the Nazi party came to power on a base of nationalism and bigotry. All the bigots on here urging us to blame all the worlds issue on one religious subset to protect our divine and superior country should look to history and see where that gets us.

The law locks up the man who steals the goose from the common, but leaves the greater criminal loose who steals the common from the goose (convict saying)

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Reply #3 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:14pm

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 11:57am:

Yadda wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 11:17am:

And in the 40 years prior to those 6 decades Europe was the center of the most violent world changing armed conflict the world had ever seen, which amazingly happened with zero involvement with Islam.

You overestimate both the social stability of Europe and the political power of the Islamic Minority.

Please remember that the Nazi party came to power on a base of nationalism and bigotry.

All the bigots on here urging us to blame all the worlds issue on one religious subset to protect our divine and superior country should look to history and see where that gets us.

"Please remember that the Nazi party came to power on a base of nationalism and bigotry."

Pho Huc,

No argument.

1930's European Nazism, exploited nationalism and 'exercised' violent political bigotry, against all of those that the Nazis deemed to be outside of the Nazism 'political' camp.

But Pho Huc,

You are a politically dishonest person.

Why so ?

Because publicly exposing political ideas to public scrutiny and criticism is NOT bigotry.

But the moslem 'camp' always make the claim that doing that [exposing ISLAMIC political ideas to public scrutiny and criticism], IS expressing bigotry and intolerance.

Bigotry [for me] is political intolerance, to the point [where an individual, or a group of people] bring political intimidation and political violence to bear [in a public arena], in an attempt to silence scrutiny [by others] and criticism of their ideas [by others].

Google;

charlie hebdo, Paris attacks

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POSITION #1;
Moslems resident in Western nations, demand the right to march down the streets of Western nations, carrying placards calling for the murder of those who offend their [moslem] sensibilities and beliefs.

BUT, moslems insist that this is; Exercising their right of freedom of expression.

POSITION #2;
But moslem individuals and moslem groups [also resident in Western nations] refuse to tolerate non-moslems, within their own Western nation states, the right of using political satire to ridicule the corrupt and violent nature of ISLAMIC ideals.

BUT, mainstream moslems resident in Western nations, claim that such public political ridicule of ISLAM should NOT be given any lawful expression, under the right of freedom of expression!

THAT, is political bigotry, REAL POLITICAL BIGOTRY

which is present and culturally nurtured within every moslem community, which is resident in a Western nation.

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London, moslem street protests.

Moslems 'demonstrating' - just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"

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THAT, IS REAL POLITICAL BIGOTRY

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #4 - Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 8:18pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2015 at 7:14pm:

Pho Huc,

You are a politically dishonest person.

Why so ?

Because publicly exposing political ideas to public scrutiny and criticism is NOT bigotry. [which is what you have accused me of]

Pho Huc,

Is English NOT your 1st language ?

Do you NOT have a good understanding of what many particular English words and phrases mean ?

To the Western mind;

Freedom of expression = = includes the right to publicly ridicule the hypocrisy of political and religious leaders, and the right to publicly ridicule political and religious ideas, using satire, and the right to use satire to publicly expose the hypocrisy of political or religious leaders. e.g. ESPECIALLY, using publicly published cartoons. think of, Charlie Hebdo !

Bigotry = = seeking to actively silence public expression and opinions [by/of others], when their views do not align with our own views and opinions. [ < ---- that is not what i support ]

To the moslem mind;

Freedom of expression DOES NOT include the right to scrutinise, ridicule, and satarise ISLAMIC 'values' and beliefs, e.g. using political cartoons.

Bigotry = = PUBLICLY EXPRESSING [any] view or opinion which offend the sensibility of 'the moslem' [e.g. ESPECIALLY, exposing ISLAMIC tenets and laws and ISLAMIC religious texts to public scrutiny]

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To the moslem mind, THAT IS 'BIGOTRY'

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Concise Ox Dictionary;

bigot = =
a person who is prejudiced in their views and intolerant of the opinions of others.

n.b.
Bigots, are those people who are,
".....intolerant of the opinions of others."

Prejudice, to 'pre-judge' a matter.

Forming an opinion about a matter, without properly seeking to inform yourself.

Dictionary;

prejudice = =
1 preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience. unjust behaviour formed on such a basis.
2 harm or injury that results or may result from some action or judgement.

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #5 - Jul 26^th, 2015 at 9:07am

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David Cameron consulting Abdullah Rehman, about how the UK government can ensure inter-community harmony in the UK

David Cameron knows that there are many good people, in the UK moslem community! Cheesy

Good, moslems!

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UK: Muslims “sick and tired” of Cameron’s words about “Islamist extremism”

July 24, 2015

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LEADING East Lancashire Muslims say they are ‘sick and tired’ of Prime Minister David Cameron’s pronouncements on home-grown Islamist extremism.
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Blackburn councillor Shaukut Hussain said every time this type of announcement was made the local Muslim community felt it had to defend itself.
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Fellow councillor Salim Mulla said: “We are working our socks off to promote community integration and he can’t keep bashing the Muslim community like this....”
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Pendle Council leader Cllr Mohammed Iqbal said he did not understand what Mr Cameron was hoping to achieve.

He said: “There’s a small minority who are not integrated.

“I do not think his speech is going to help.”…

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/uk-muslims-sick-and-tired-of-camerons-words-ab...

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Q.
What thanks, do people like David Cameron receive from moslems, for pandering to those moslems who insist that their community has nothing to do with encouraging ISLAMIST violence and ISLAMIST extremism ?

The message to host governments/communities, of 'denial of any responsibility', from guest moslem communities is always the same;

"PLEASE! PLEASE! DON'T STIR UP TROUBLE BETWEEN US MOSLEMS, AND YOU KUFFURS!!!

We moslems have done nothing wrong!

We moslems are innocent people.

There are just a tiny minority of extremists, in our ranks.

And those extremists from our ranks, are being alienated by the unfounded accusations which you kuffur continually make against our religion and community!!

It is your Islam-o-phobia, which is producing the extremists !!!

You kuffur politicians [and kuffur community] should not say or do anything which will offend us [moslems], and which could cause more of us to join the ranks of the tiny minority of extremists.

You kuffur politicians [and kuffur community] should not say anything which may infer that the blame for ISLAMIST extremism, comes from our religion or community!!

Our religion promotes Peace!!!"

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And here in Australia, the message from our own guest moslem community is exactly the same [as in the UK];

Quote:

"Peace summarises everything in Islam, because it means

submitting your will to God,

so you acquire peace through it," he said.

"When I'm following its [i.e. ISLAM's] teachings,

I know that my own actions are in line with what my creator wants,

and hence I am at peace with myself, [with] my community and the rest of the world."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-19/darwins-muslim-community-tackles-discrimin...

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Quote:

"Mr Yunus has been encouraging peaceful community bridging since starting his post as Darwin's Islamic leader in 2014."

- ABC news report - 2015-01-19

"Peace summarises everything in Islam..."

- Mr Yunus

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Google;

David Cameron, islam is a religion of peace

"Islam is a religion of peace."

- David Cameron, June 2015

ISLAM is a peaceful religion!

Honest!!! Cheesy

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Pho Huc Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 985 Victoria Gender:	Re: Shameless duplicity [deceit] by UK moslems, on dis Reply #6 - Jul 28^th, 2015 at 4:24pm Im glad you accept that the majority of Muslims are opposed to violence, i never thought id see the day! p.s how i am politically dishonest? isnt that a truism? just like political honesty is an oxymoron?
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Reply #8 - Jul 28^th, 2015 at 10:59pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 4:39pm:

Pho Huc wrote on Jul 28^th, 2015 at 4:24pm:

how i am politically dishonest?

Oh thats easy - you accept muslims for who they are

I find it impossible to accept moslems 'for who they are'.

There are so many different versions of, 'moslem'.

FOR EXAMPLE ----- >

Quote:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-19/darwins-muslim-community-tackles-discrimin...

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Quote:

"Mr Yunus has been encouraging peaceful community bridging since starting his post as Darwin's Islamic leader in 2014."

- ABC news report - 2015-01-19

"Peace summarises everything in Islam..."

- Mr Yunus

I say; Enough with this moslem sophistry Mr Yunus!!!

Dictionary;

sophistry = = the use of fallacious arguments, especially to deceive.

Every moslem [in the West] preaches peace, except when he doesn't....
....and when he doesn't, then other moslems claim that he is an extremist, who is misrepresenting ISLAM.

Every moslem [in the West] preaches that ISLAM should only be spread peacefully, except when he doesn't....
....and when he doesn't, then other moslems claim that he is an extremist, who is misrepresenting ISLAM.

Thankfully, more and more infidels are seeing through the blatant deceit of the moslem community in the West.

Quote:

Cleric preaches that violence is part of Islam
01/05/2007
In documents seen by The Daily Telegraph, al-Muhajiroun claimed: "Terrorism is a part of Islam" and "Allah made it obligatory to prepare and to terrify the enemy of Allah".
The article advised: "The kuffar of USA and UK are without doubt our enemy. There is no such thing as an innocent kafir, innocence is only applicable for the Muslims. Not only is it obligatory to fight them, it is haram [forbidden] to feel sorry for them."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1550211/Cleric-preaches-that-violence-is-...

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This is the moslem who is peaceful, so long as infidels surrender to ISLAM ----- >

Quote:

Pakistani cleric: 'We want Islamic law for all Pakistan and then the world.

We would like to do this by preaching.

But if not then we would use force.'

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/12/pakistani-cleric-we-want-islamic-law-for-all-p...

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Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW, TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.

Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

Quote:

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

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And ALL non-moslems ['unbelievers'] are 'guilty' people, and may be killed by moslems....

Quote:

Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004

"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents.

Only between Muslims and unbelievers.

And the life of an unbeliever has no value.

It has no sanctity."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&on...

N.B.
"...the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

'Unbelievers' = = don't even 'rate' as human beings.

To ISLAM, only moslems are human beings.

Google;

unbelievers, are sons of apes and pigs

Google;

Non-Muslims, Worse than Animals

"...A harbi has no rights, not even the right to live."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbi

Who, or what, is a harbi ???

Harbi is an Arabic/ISLAMIC word, it means "one under a declaration of war".

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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