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Re: A series of videos by Vice News - ISIS in Raqqa
Reply #60 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 5:26pm

Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 10:31pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 8:45pm:

Most commentators suggest that more support for the more moderate rebels would have made it harder for ISIS, not easier.

What is "moderate"? Does that mean somebody who is compliant to the US demands?

Just like the other day, Murdoch media labelled Muslim leaders who refused to meet Abbott as "extremist". However, whoever does what Abbott wants is a "moderate" according to Murdoch.

At the moment, anything left of the head hacking rapists from ISIS look moderate. Even Assad looks moderate. Al Nusra have been labelled a terrorist organisation, and I don't think there is much left of what was previously considered the moderates.

I don't think expecting Muslim leaders to meet with the PM to discuss anti-terror laws that will inevitably affect the Muslim community is too much to ask.

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Actually I think you'll find that a majority of fighters from Australia are fighting for factions that oppose ISIL. The number of muslims fighting ISIL far outweighs the number fighting for them.

I thought you said they were merely there to volunteer at refugee camps and rescue abandoned puppies.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Re: A series of videos by Vice News - ISIS in Raqqa
Reply #61 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:16pm

freediver wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 5:26pm:

At the moment, anything left of the head hacking rapists from ISIS look moderate.

So it is the method of killing that you oppose? When the US invaded Aghanistan in 2001, their Northern Alliance allies would herd prisoners into shipping containers in the middle of the desert, and then spray the containers with bullets.

Is the US moderate in its behaviour? The Millions of civilians that the US killed in Iraq, Vietnam, Japan? Was dropping nuclear bombs on Japanese cities "moderate"?

The term "moderate" really gets applied in strange ways sometimes.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53277 At my desk.	Re: A series of videos by Vice News - ISIS in Raqqa Reply #62 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:29pm Quote: So it is the method of killing that you oppose? Of course. And their method of raping. They aren't doing it properly. Quote: The term "moderate" really gets applied in strange ways sometimes. It is a conspiracy to make genuine Muslims like ISIS look bad.
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Re: A series of videos by Vice News - ISIS in Raqqa
Reply #63 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 10:14pm

freediver wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:29pm:

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So it is the method of killing that you oppose?

Of course. And their method of raping. They aren't doing it properly.

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The term "moderate" really gets applied in strange ways sometimes.

It is a conspiracy to make genuine Muslims like ISIS look bad.

Excuse me, the 2007 FD won’t stand for that sort of talk. You take that back. I distinctly remember him saying we shouldn’t tar all Muselmen with the same brush.

I don’t care if you’ve changed your mind or not. You have no right to make genuine Muselmen look bad, even just a little bit. We believe in Freeedom and demokracy for all the tinted races, even hideous Muselmen, as long as we get to decide on the level of tintedness , etc.

Agreed? We won’t have that sort of nonsense on a civilised board, thank you very much.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: A series of videos by Vice News - ISIS in Raqqa Reply #64 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 4:25pm \|dev\|null wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 12:04pm: 30,000 Indian Shia Muslims Ready to Fight Isis 'Bare Handed' in Iraq. Iran Calls on British Shiites to Join Fight Against Sunnis in Iraq You were saying Soren? Yes, yes, yes they are talking. Lemme know when they actually do something.
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Re: A series of videos by Vice News - ISIS in Raqqa
Reply #65 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 6:46pm

Soren wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 4:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 12:04pm:

30,000 Indian Shia Muslims Ready to Fight Isis 'Bare Handed' in Iraq.

Iran Calls on British Shiites to Join Fight Against Sunnis in Iraq

You were saying Soren? Grin

Yes, yes, yes they are talking. Lemme know when they actually do something.

Like the lovely Julie Bishop, eh?

Marvellous stuff.

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Re: A series of videos by Vice News - ISIS in Raqqa
Reply #66 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 10:31am

Soren wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 4:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 12:04pm:

30,000 Indian Shia Muslims Ready to Fight Isis 'Bare Handed' in Iraq.

Iran Calls on British Shiites to Join Fight Against Sunnis in Iraq

You were saying Soren? Grin

Yes, yes, yes they are talking. Lemme know when they actually do something.

As always you move the goalposts when you find you're wrong Soren. Grin

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Re: A series of videos by Vice News - ISIS in Raqqa
Reply #67 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 10:36am

|dev|null wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 12:04pm:

30,000 Indian Shia Muslims Ready to Fight Isis 'Bare Handed' in Iraq.

Iran Calls on British Shiites to Join Fight Against Sunnis in Iraq

These sunni vs shia battles have been going on for 1400 years, it started with the battle of the camel.

Of course if it was catholic vs protestant hb would be outraged.

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Re: A series of videos by Vice News - ISIS in Raqqa
Reply #68 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 10:56am

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 10:36am:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 12:04pm:

30,000 Indian Shia Muslims Ready to Fight Isis 'Bare Handed' in Iraq.

Iran Calls on British Shiites to Join Fight Against Sunnis in Iraq

These sunni vs shia battles have been going on for 1400 years, it started with the battle of the camel.

Of course if it was catholic vs protestant hb would be outraged.

Do you always post such irrelevancies? Grin

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"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: A series of videos by Vice News - ISIS in Raqqa Reply #69 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 3:16pm freediver wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 5:26pm: I thought you said they were merely there to volunteer at refugee camps and rescue abandoned puppies. You thought wrong.
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Re: A series of videos by Vice News - ISIS in Raqqa
Reply #70 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 3:23pm

|dev|null wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 10:31am:

Soren wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 4:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 12:04pm:

30,000 Indian Shia Muslims Ready to Fight Isis 'Bare Handed' in Iraq.

Iran Calls on British Shiites to Join Fight Against Sunnis in Iraq

You were saying Soren? Grin

Yes, yes, yes they are talking. Lemme know when they actually do something.

As always you move the goalposts when you find you're wrong Soren. Grin

Have they gone or are they just talking about going, numpty?

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Re: A series of videos by Vice News - ISIS in Raqqa
Reply #71 - Sep 16^th, 2014 at 11:51am

Soren wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 3:23pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 10:31am:

Soren wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 4:25pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 12:04pm:

30,000 Indian Shia Muslims Ready to Fight Isis 'Bare Handed' in Iraq.

Iran Calls on British Shiites to Join Fight Against Sunnis in Iraq

You were saying Soren? Grin

Yes, yes, yes they are talking. Lemme know when they actually do something.

As always you move the goalposts when you find you're wrong Soren. Grin

Have they gone or are they just talking about going, numpty?

You only asked about volunteering:
Soren wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 11:12am:

But there is no news of Muslims from among the 'vast majority' volunteering to go over to Iraq and Syria and defend the religion of peace.

Caught again in your own web of lies Soren! You moved the goalposts from "volunteering" to "travelling to." Hoist on your own petard it seems. Grin

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"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: A series of videos by Vice News - ISIS in Raqqa Reply #73 - Sep 16^th, 2014 at 12:09pm You know nothing irritates me more than seeing a race/country/religion asserting their values on others.
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Re: A series of videos by Vice News - ISIS in Raqqa
Reply #74 - Sep 16^th, 2014 at 12:47pm

Soren wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 12:07pm:

|dev|null wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 11:51am:

Caught again in your own web of lies Soren! You moved the goalposts from "volunteering" to "travelling to." Hoist on your own petard it seems.

In this context, what's the difference, Brain?

I demand that you use my real name! I am Freediver! Until you do, I won't be replying to any more of your posts!

I proved you moved the goalpost. You got caught and proved wrong. Typical bigoted behaviour though. Grin

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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
Freediver, 2007.

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