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Bobby.

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Ban beards to control Muslims
Aug 9^th, 2014 at 2:24pm

Let's do what China has done.

Ban beards.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/06/chinese-city-bans-islamic-beards-he...

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Chinese city bans Islamic beards, headwear and clothing on buses

Uighur people in Karamay appear to be the target of restrictions as unrest simmers in mainly Muslim Xinjiang region.

The ban also covered “large beards”, the paper said, adding:

“Those who do not co-operate with inspection teams will be handled by police.”

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 115285 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Ban beards to control Muslims Reply #1 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 2:32pm Off it comes Gandalf. Get the shaver ready.
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Reply #2 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 2:48pm

This is deeply sinnister Bobby, and no laughing matter.

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A city in China’s mainly Muslim Xinjiang region has banned people with large beards or Islamic clothing from travelling on public buses, state media said, prompting outrage from an overseas rights group.

Authorities in Karamay banned people wearing hijabs, niqabs, burqas or clothing with the Islamic star and crescent symbol from taking local buses, the Karamay Daily reported.

FD will be along in no time at all to condemn this egregious attack on personal freedoms. Tongue

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 45544	Re: Ban beards to control Muslims Reply #3 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 2:51pm Bobby, do you think what the Chinese authorities are doing will really solve the problems in Xinjiang Province or do you think it will exacerbate them by increasing resent and feelings of being oppressed by Beijing?
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Reply #4 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 2:52pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 9^th, 2014 at 2:48pm:

This is deeply sinister Bobby, and no laughing matter.

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A city in China’s mainly Muslim Xinjiang region has banned people with large beards or Islamic clothing from travelling on public buses, state media said, prompting outrage from an overseas rights group.

Authorities in Karamay banned people wearing hijabs, niqabs, burqas or clothing with the Islamic star and crescent symbol from taking local buses, the Karamay Daily reported.

FD will be along in no time at all to condemn this egregious attack on personal freedoms. Tongue

sinister?

No - it's how you control people.

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Re: Ban beards to control Muslims
Reply #5 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 2:53pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9^th, 2014 at 2:51pm:

Bobby, do you think what the Chinese authorities are doing will really solve the problems in Xinjiang Province or do you think it will exacerbate them by increasing resent and feelings of being oppressed by Beijing? Roll Eyes

The Chinese don't muck around.

They will fix the Muslim problem up easily.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 115285 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Ban beards to control Muslims Reply #6 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 2:55pm Quote: FD will be along in no time at all to condemn this egregious attack on personal freedoms. No way - FD will agree with it & want it here in Australia too.
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Re: Ban beards to control Muslims
Reply #7 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 3:45pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 9^th, 2014 at 2:48pm:

This is deeply sinnister Bobby, and no laughing matter.

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A city in China’s mainly Muslim Xinjiang region has banned people with large beards or Islamic clothing from travelling on public buses, state media said, prompting outrage from an overseas rights group.

Authorities in Karamay banned people wearing hijabs, niqabs, burqas or clothing with the Islamic star and crescent symbol from taking local buses, the Karamay Daily reported.

FD will be along in no time at all to condemn this egregious attack on personal freedoms. Tongue

No no, I think you’ll find that banning beards is Freeedom.

That, and answering FD’s questions in the correct Abu manner. I.e, compliance with FD’s fears, fantasies and hysterical tabloid caricatures.

Allah uakbar, no?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51861 At my desk.	Re: Ban beards to control Muslims Reply #8 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 4:10pm I'm with Brian and Gnadalf on this one. This is just like the French banning the letterbox outfit.
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Reply #9 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 4:46pm

freediver wrote on Aug 9^th, 2014 at 4:10pm:

I'm with Brian and Gnadalf on this one. This is just like the French banning the letterbox outfit.

At least there is a legitimate security argument in favour of the French (and Belgian) bans - ie the burqa can be used to conceal identity. But banning beards and hijabs and clothing with islamic symbols takes it to a whole new level.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51861 At my desk.	Re: Ban beards to control Muslims Reply #10 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 4:49pm A fake beard and sunnies do a good job of concealing a person's identity. As do face masks - which are of course not banned in France.
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Re: Ban beards to control Muslims
Reply #11 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 4:55pm

face masks are banned FD - the French and Belgian burqa bans are not specific to the burqa - but any full face covering:

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The French ban on face covering (French: Loi interdisant la dissimulation du visage dans l'espace public, "Act prohibiting concealment of the face in public space") is an act of parliament passed by the Senate of France on 14 September 2010, resulting in the ban on the wearing of face-covering headgear, including masks, helmets, balaclava, niqābs and other veils covering the face in public places, except under specified circumstances.[1] The ban also applies to the burqa, a full-body covering, if it covers the face. The bill had previously been passed by the National Assembly of France on 13 July 2010.[2]

The key argument supporting this proposal is that face-coverings prevent the clear identification of a person, which is both a security risk, and a social hindrance within a society which relies on facial recognition and expression in communication.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ban_on_face_covering

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51861 At my desk.	Re: Ban beards to control Muslims Reply #12 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 5:07pm I guess that also keeps the yanks under control at halloween.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Ban beards to control Muslims Reply #13 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 5:26pm
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FD Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 100010	Re: Ban beards to control Muslims Reply #14 - Aug 9^th, 2014 at 5:28pm freediver wrote on Aug 9^th, 2014 at 5:07pm: I guess that also keeps the yanks under control at halloween. Yanks, motorbike riders, Hannibal Lector, the Muselman... It is a jolly world, no?
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