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Voters Fear Budget Will Hit The Poor, Survey Shows
Jul 24th, 2014 at 6:18am
 
Voters fear budget will hit the poor, survey shows

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    July 24, 2014


Concern over inequality: A strong sentiment that the budget "targeted the young, the older and the more vulnerable in our society" was evident in a qualitative study.      

The big surprise in the most detailed qualitative study on post-budget sentiment is that the voters' hostility is largely driven by concerns it will promote a less equal and less caring society.      Sad

Rather than direct their anger at measures that hit their hip pockets, many of those surveyed repeatedly express concern about the impact on others, especially their children and the poor.

"People are scratching their heads and asking: are the cuts directed at the right people? Is it good for our country to make things harder for our young people?" says Laura Demasi, research director at the Ipsos Social Research Institute.

"People were saying, 'I don't think this is going to affect me right now, but I don't feel comfortable about how it will affect the vulnerable. Are we setting ourselves up for a new era of inequality?'"      Sad

The report, How Australians are feeling about the economy and the future post budget, is likely to steel the resolve of Senate crossbenchers to block Coalition measures, from the deregulation of university fees to the $7 Medicare co-payment.

It is based on 12 group discussions with Australian men and women across all age groups in Sydney, Melbourne, the Gold Coast and Bendigo in the first week of this month and reveals deep confusion about how serious Australia's economic situation is, with some voters supporting the government's view that debt is out of control and others dismissing claims of a ''budget crisis'' as mere spin.

People expressed apprehension about the country's economic direction and the decline of the manufacturing industry. "Participants saw signs of economic decline all around them," the report says.

A strong sentiment that the budget "targeted the young, the older and the more vulnerable in our society" was evident, and so was "unambiguous concern" about changes to higher education funding, with voters fearing the young will be hit by higher fees, more difficulty getting a job and a tougher housing market.      

The consensus view was that Prime Minister Tony Abbott's paid parental leave scheme is too generous, when the big concern was the availability, affordability and quality of childcare.

The altruistic outlook of voters was summed up by one who said: "I don't think there's going to be a huge negative effect on my family, but I can see a lot of families will be affected, and that bothers me."

Ms Demasi said she was struck by the number of people who opposed the changes to higher education, even though they would not be directly affected.

"While some felt we were going in the right direction, many are in a state of confusion, asking 'Is it really as bad and as serious as they made out?' and observing that Australia is looking a lot like America," she said.      Sad

Confusion and anxiety about the budget prompted complaints about the quality of political leaders, both Liberal and Labor.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/voters-fear-budget-will-hit-the-poor-survey-shows-20140723-3cfwn.html#ixzz38KAvULAt
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Reply #1 - Jul 24th, 2014 at 6:25am
 
The budget will hit everyone.
It's just one of them things.

People are too quick to moan on here. Get on with life. It really ain't that hard!
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Reply #2 - Jul 24th, 2014 at 6:32am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 24th, 2014 at 6:25am:
The budget will hit everyone.
It's just one of them things.




Especially that tiny temporary tax on the rich ...
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Reply #3 - Jul 24th, 2014 at 7:11am
 
It's NOT 'fear', it's FACT.
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Reply #4 - Jul 24th, 2014 at 7:45am
 

Hopefully, the parts of the budget that were designed to hit the poor will be blocked. It might just come back to hit Joe and Tony.
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Reply #5 - Jul 24th, 2014 at 9:38am
 
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Blocking the budget will hurt the poor and the tax-payer much more.

The Tax-payer to Tax-dependent ratio is going to decline by close to 50% over the next 10-20 years meaning that today's kids will likely have to pay much higher marginal tax rates (potentially more than double) than their parents just to attempt to maintain the same level of social welfare services enjoyed today..... Sad

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"People are scratching their heads and asking: are the cuts directed at the right people? Is it good for our country to make things harder for our young people?" says Laura Demasi, research director at the Ipsos Social Research Institute.

"People were saying, 'I don't think this is going to affect me right now, but I don't feel comfortable about how it will affect the vulnerable. Are we setting ourselves up for a new era of inequality?'"


Interesting quotes.  The ochlocrats are already suggesting that taxes should be increased to cover the costs?

The "new era of inequality" will be in the increasing proportion of income tax paid by the individual funders of Govt.  Shocked

http://archive.treasury.gov.au/igr/igr2010/report/pdf/IGR_2010.pdf

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The proportion of working age people is projected to fall, with only 2.7 people of working age to support each Australian aged 65 years and over by 2050 (compared to 5 working aged people per aged person today and 7.5 in 1970).


Labor, the Greens and Palmer party are ignoring these hard facts for the sake of petty popularism and political power.

The so-called 'Voters' are ignoring the hard facts because most are just Ochlocratic parasites and they don't give a rat's because at the end of the day it will be 'someone else' that will be doing the paying. Sad Sad

The number of tax-payers is declining though.  Getting a majority 'representative' voice in Parliament will just get harder. Sad

The tax-payer is the modern day 'slave'  Sad 
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Reply #6 - Jul 24th, 2014 at 10:40am
 
Swagman wrote on Jul 24th, 2014 at 9:38am:
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Voters Fear Budget Will Hit The Poor, Survey Shows


Blocking the budget will hurt the poor and the tax-payer much more.

The Tax-payer to Tax-dependent ratio is going to decline by close to 50% over the next 10-20 years meaning that today's kids will likely have to pay much higher marginal tax rates (potentially more than double) than their parents just to attempt to maintain the same level of social welfare services enjoyed today..... Sad

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"People are scratching their heads and asking: are the cuts directed at the right people? Is it good for our country to make things harder for our young people?" says Laura Demasi, research director at the Ipsos Social Research Institute.

"People were saying, 'I don't think this is going to affect me right now, but I don't feel comfortable about how it will affect the vulnerable. Are we setting ourselves up for a new era of inequality?'"


Interesting quotes.  The ochlocrats are already suggesting that taxes should be increased to cover the costs?

The "new era of inequality" will be in the increasing proportion of income tax paid by the individual funders of Govt.  Shocked

http://archive.treasury.gov.au/igr/igr2010/report/pdf/IGR_2010.pdf

Quote:
The proportion of working age people is projected to fall, with only 2.7 people of working age to support each Australian aged 65 years and over by 2050 (compared to 5 working aged people per aged person today and 7.5 in 1970).


Labor, the Greens and Palmer party are ignoring these hard facts for the sake of petty popularism and political power.

The so-called 'Voters' are ignoring the hard facts because most are just Ochlocratic parasites and they don't give a rat's because at the end of the day it will be 'someone else' that will be doing the paying. Sad Sad

The number of tax-payers is declining though.  Getting a majority 'representative' voice in Parliament will just get harder. Sad

The tax-payer is the modern day 'slave'  Sad 


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Beating dead horses again, Swag?
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Reply #7 - Jul 24th, 2014 at 12:20pm
 
Bam wrote on Jul 24th, 2014 at 10:40am:
Beating dead horses again, Swag?


The correct idiom is "flogging a dead horse".

...but for you Truebelievers this would be more apt.... Cheesy

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Reply #8 - Jul 24th, 2014 at 1:15pm
 
Swagman wrote on Jul 24th, 2014 at 12:20pm:
Bam wrote on Jul 24th, 2014 at 10:40am:
Beating dead horses again, Swag?


The correct idiom is "flogging a dead horse".

Who cares?

You should stop doing it. Nobody's taking you seriously when you post the same old opinionated crap.
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Reply #9 - Jul 24th, 2014 at 1:23pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jul 24th, 2014 at 6:25am:
The budget will hit everyone.
It's just one of them things.

People are too quick to moan on here. Get on with life. It really ain't that hard!

Says the guy who spent a year whining about the $10 a week for the carbon tax.
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Reply #10 - Jul 24th, 2014 at 1:26pm
 
Swagman wrote on Jul 24th, 2014 at 9:38am:
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Voters Fear Budget Will Hit The Poor, Survey Shows


Blocking the budget will hurt the poor and the tax-payer much more.

The Tax-payer to Tax-dependent ratio is going to decline by close to 50% over the next 10-20 years meaning that today's kids will likely have to pay much higher marginal tax rates (potentially more than double) than their parents just to attempt to maintain the same level of social welfare services enjoyed today..... Sad

Quote:
"People are scratching their heads and asking: are the cuts directed at the right people? Is it good for our country to make things harder for our young people?" says Laura Demasi, research director at the Ipsos Social Research Institute.

"People were saying, 'I don't think this is going to affect me right now, but I don't feel comfortable about how it will affect the vulnerable. Are we setting ourselves up for a new era of inequality?'"


Interesting quotes.  The ochlocrats are already suggesting that taxes should be increased to cover the costs?

The "new era of inequality" will be in the increasing proportion of income tax paid by the individual funders of Govt.  Shocked

http://archive.treasury.gov.au/igr/igr2010/report/pdf/IGR_2010.pdf

Quote:
The proportion of working age people is projected to fall, with only 2.7 people of working age to support each Australian aged 65 years and over by 2050 (compared to 5 working aged people per aged person today and 7.5 in 1970).


Labor, the Greens and Palmer party are ignoring these hard facts for the sake of petty popularism and political power.

The so-called 'Voters' are ignoring the hard facts because most are just Ochlocratic parasites and they don't give a rat's because at the end of the day it will be 'someone else' that will be doing the paying. Sad Sad

The number of tax-payers is declining though.  Getting a majority 'representative' voice in Parliament will just get harder. Sad

The tax-payer is the modern day 'slave'  Sad 

Oh dearly sounds awful!  Shame this government isn't paying attention and instead has been reducing taxes so far.
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Reply #11 - Jul 24th, 2014 at 1:39pm
 
Bam wrote on Jul 24th, 2014 at 1:15pm:
Who cares?


Who cares who cares?  Grin

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same old opinionated crap


The same old opinionated and unsupported whinge is just countered with the same logical message backed up with statistical evidence in rebuttal.  Huh

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Strike 3 and your out.......... Grin
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Reply #13 - Jul 25th, 2014 at 11:06am
 
Most of the budget isn't going to get through the Senate anyway so there's no sense worrying unless you plan on voting for Abbott after the DD.
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Reply #14 - Jul 25th, 2014 at 12:24pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 11:06am:
Most of the budget isn't going to get through the Senate anyway so there's no sense worrying unless you plan on voting for Abbott after the DD.


There will be no DD.  The Carbon Tax is history.  The mining tax will go and if the savings measures don't pass then the debt position can logically be blamed on the Opposition parties and when there is out of control debt in 2 years time good friggin luck to Labor or PUP if they inherit it for a change.



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