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Reply #15 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 2:46pm
 
You can't deal with these people. You can only contain them while waiting for them to evolve into homo sapiens . . .or you can kill them. Decisions decisions.
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Reply #16 - Jul 22nd, 2014 at 9:45am
 
I hope these tax dodgers don't intend claiming refugee status in Australia and claiming Centrelink.
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Reply #17 - Jul 22nd, 2014 at 11:17am
 
Pay back is mudda pucker isnt it.

Christian nations killed 1 million muslims iraqis with there sanctions and terror post saddam.

Madeleine Albright: "500,000 Dead Iraqi Children Was Worth It"


Here is a much forgotten exchange between Lesley Stahl and Madeleine Albright on “60 Minutes” back on May 12, 1996 that is not getting much play lately:

    Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

    Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price–we think the price is worth it.
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Reply #18 - Jul 22nd, 2014 at 2:44pm
 
wally1 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 11:17am:
Pay back is mudda pucker isnt it.

Christian nations killed 1 million muslims iraqis with there sanctions and terror post saddam.



Please name those christian nations.

Do you know what a secular state is?
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_state
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Reply #19 - Jul 22nd, 2014 at 2:48pm
 
"God bless America!" is heard from the lips of every US President.   "In God we trust" was adopted as the official motto of the United States in 1956.  A majority of the American people (51 percent) believe that the U.S. Constitution establishes a Christian nation, according to the State of the First Amendment survey.

If it talks about being Christian, believes it's Christian, surely it's Christian?    Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #20 - Jul 22nd, 2014 at 2:53pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 2:48pm:
"God bless America!" is heard from the lips of every US President.   "In God we trust" was adopted as the official motto of the United States in 1956.  A majority of the American people (51 percent) believe that the U.S. Constitution establishes a Christian nation, according to the State of the First Amendment survey.

If it talks about being Christian, believes it's Christian, surely it's Christian?    Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


The USA is a secular state,secular states do not have an official religion.
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Reply #21 - Jul 22nd, 2014 at 3:42pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 2:53pm:
|dev|null wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 2:48pm:
"God bless America!" is heard from the lips of every US President.   "In God we trust" was adopted as the official motto of the United States in 1956.  A majority of the American people (51 percent) believe that the U.S. Constitution establishes a Christian nation, according to the State of the First Amendment survey.

If it talks about being Christian, believes it's Christian, surely it's Christian?    Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


The USA is a secular state,secular states do not have an official religion.


So, what happens when the majority of their citizens profess one faith over all others?

Using your definition, the UK obviously isn't a secular state!   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin
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"Pens and books are the weapons that defeat terrorism." - Malala Yousefzai, 2013.

"we will never ever solve violence while we grasp for overly simplistic solutions."
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Reply #22 - Jul 22nd, 2014 at 8:00pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 2:53pm:
|dev|null wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 2:48pm:
"God bless America!" is heard from the lips of every US President.   "In God we trust" was adopted as the official motto of the United States in 1956.  A majority of the American people (51 percent) believe that the U.S. Constitution establishes a Christian nation, according to the State of the First Amendment survey.

If it talks about being Christian, believes it's Christian, surely it's Christian?    Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


The USA is a secular state,secular states do not have an official religion.


That’s right. Amerika believes in money.

In Gud we trust, no?
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Reply #23 - Jul 23rd, 2014 at 12:24am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 2:44pm:
wally1 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 11:17am:
Pay back is mudda pucker isnt it.

Christian nations killed 1 million muslims iraqis with there sanctions and terror post saddam.



Please name those christian nations.



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Reply #24 - Jul 23rd, 2014 at 8:42am
 
|dev|null wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 3:42pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 2:53pm:
|dev|null wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 2:48pm:
"God bless America!" is heard from the lips of every US President.   "In God we trust" was adopted as the official motto of the United States in 1956.  A majority of the American people (51 percent) believe that the U.S. Constitution establishes a Christian nation, according to the State of the First Amendment survey.

If it talks about being Christian, believes it's Christian, surely it's Christian?    Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


The USA is a secular state,secular states do not have an official religion.


So, what happens when the majority of their citizens profess one faith over all others?

Using your definition, the UK obviously isn't a secular state!   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

Separation of church and state. Doesn't matter what proportion of the population profess a faith.


First Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.




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Reply #25 - Jul 23rd, 2014 at 10:16am
 
Abbott Lies wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 12:24am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 2:44pm:
wally1 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 11:17am:
Pay back is mudda pucker isnt it.

Christian nations killed 1 million muslims iraqis with there sanctions and terror post saddam.



Please name those christian nations.





Did Pope Benedict approve of this crusade or did he cancel it?
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Reply #26 - Jul 23rd, 2014 at 12:41pm
 
Soren wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 8:42am:
|dev|null wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 3:42pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 2:53pm:
|dev|null wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 2:48pm:
"God bless America!" is heard from the lips of every US President.   "In God we trust" was adopted as the official motto of the United States in 1956.  A majority of the American people (51 percent) believe that the U.S. Constitution establishes a Christian nation, according to the State of the First Amendment survey.

If it talks about being Christian, believes it's Christian, surely it's Christian?    Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


The USA is a secular state,secular states do not have an official religion.


So, what happens when the majority of their citizens profess one faith over all others?

Using your definition, the UK obviously isn't a secular state!   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

Separation of church and state.


So, the UK is a theocracy then?

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Doesn't matter what proportion of the population profess a faith.


Well, actually it does.  While the Government may not officially be subject to religion, those who make it up are and that in turn changes the nature of the Government and it's policies.  The US bombs the crap out of nations, killing millions, despite all it's government being Christians and proclaiming their Christianity at every turn to the world.  A majority of it's population believes it's a Christian nation, so I rather think we should respect their views, don't you?   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin

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Reply #27 - Jul 23rd, 2014 at 4:09pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 10:16am:
Abbott Lies wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 12:24am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 2:44pm:
wally1 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 11:17am:
Pay back is mudda pucker isnt it.

Christian nations killed 1 million muslims iraqis with there sanctions and terror post saddam.



Please name those christian nations.





Did Pope Benedict approve of this crusade or did he cancel it?


George Bush was not a Catholic. Neither was Howard or Blair. (Blair converted to Catholic afterwards).


Most Evangelical Leaders Still Support Iraq War

http://www.christianpost.com/news/most-evangelical-leaders-still-support-iraq-wa...




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Millions of Evangelical Christians Want to Start World War III … to Speed Up the Second Coming



millions of Americans believe that Christ will not come again until Israel wipes out its competitors and there is widespread war in the Middle East. Some of these folks want to start a huge fire of war and death and destruction, so that Jesus comes quickly.

According to French President Chirac, Bush told him that the Iraq war was needed to bring on the apocalypse:

In Genesis and Ezekiel Gog and Magog are forces of the Apocalypse who are prophesied to come out of the north and destroy Israel unless stopped. The Book of Revelation took up the Old Testament prophesy:

“And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.”

Bush believed the time had now come for that battle, telling Chirac:

“This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins”…

There can be little doubt now that President Bush’s reason for launching the war in Iraq was, for him, fundamentally religious. He was driven by his belief that the attack on Saddam’s Iraq was the fulfilment of a Biblical prophesy in which he had been chosen to serve as the instrument of the Lord.

And British Prime Minister Tony Blair long-time mentor, advisor and confidante said:

“Tony’s Christian faith is part of him, down to his cotton socks. He believed strongly at the time, that intervention in Kosovo, Sierra Leone – Iraq too – was all part of the Christian battle; good should triumph over evil, making lives better.”

Mr Burton, who was often described as Mr Blair’s mentor, says that his religion gave him a “total belief in what’s right and what’s wrong”, leading him to see the so-called War on Terror as “a moral cause”…

Anti-war campaigners criticised remarks Mr Blair made in 2006, suggesting that the decision to go to war in Iraq would ultimately be judged by God.

Bill Moyers reports that the organization Christians United for Israel – led by highly-influential Pastor John C. Hagee – is a universal call to all Christians to help factions in Israel fund the Jewish settlements, throw out all the Palestinians and lobby for a pre-emptive invasion of Iran. All to bring Russia into a war against us causing World War III followed by Armageddon, the Second Coming and The Rapture. See this and this.

This all revolves around what is called Dispensationalism. So popular is Dispensationalism that Tim LaHaye’s Left Behind series has sold 65 million copies.

Dispensationalists include the following mega-pastors and their churches:

Jerry Falwell
Pat Robertson
Billy Graham
They are supported by politicians such as:

Newt Gingrich
Joseph Lieberman
John McCain
Texas Senator John Cronyn
Former House Minority Whip Roy Blunt
Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay
And others
Dr. Timothy Webber – an evangelical Christian who has served as a teacher of church history and the history of American religion at Denver Seminary and Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Vice-President at Northern Baptist Theological Seminary in Lombard, IL, and President of Memphis Theological Seminary in Tennessee – notes:

In a recent Time/CNN poll, more than one-third of Americans said that since the terrorist attacks of 9/11, they have been thinking more about how current events might be leading to the end of the world.

While only 36 percent of all Americans believe that the Bible is God’s Word and should be taken literally, 59 percent say they believe that events predicted in the Book of Revelation will come to pass. Almost one out of four Americans believes that 9/11 was predicted in the Bible, and nearly one in five believes that he or she will live long enough to see the end of the world. Even more significant for this study, over one-third of those Americans who support Israel report that they do so because they believe the Bible teaches that the Jews must possess their own country in the Holy Land before Jesus can return.

Millions of Americans believe that the Bible predicts the future and that we are living in the last days...


http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/02/evangelical-christians-want-to-start-wwii...
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Reply #28 - Jul 23rd, 2014 at 5:43pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 12:41pm:
Soren wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 8:42am:
Doesn't matter what proportion of the population profess a faith.


Well, actually it does.  While the Government may not officially be subject to religion, those who make it up are and that in turn changes the nature of the Government and it's policies.  The US bombs the crap out of nations, killing millions, despite all it's government being Christians and proclaiming their Christianity at every turn to the world.  A majority of it's population believes it's a Christian nation, so I rather think we should respect their views, don't you?   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin




Utter nonsense as usual from you.


The laws and decision are made openly, without any influence by religion, subject to scrutiny by parliamentarians, the free press and the laws are administered openly by an independent, non-religious judiciary.

This can be called Christian only in the sense that freedom, open and democratic, Englightenment politics are all rooted in Christianity.
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Reply #29 - Jul 23rd, 2014 at 8:47pm
 
wally1 wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 11:17am:
Pay back is mudda pucker isnt it.

Christian nations killed 1 million muslims iraqis with there sanctions and terror post saddam.

Madeleine Albright: "500,000 Dead Iraqi Children Was Worth It"


Here is a much forgotten exchange between Lesley Stahl and Madeleine Albright on “60 Minutes” back on May 12, 1996 that is not getting much play lately:

    Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

    Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price–we think the price is worth it.


Do you think it was worth it Wally?
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