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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: What is Palmer up to. Reply #15 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:37pm And Clive reveals the catch - no ETS until our trading partners do it What a cop-out. One wonders why Al Gore is standing shoulder to shoulder with Palmer on this.
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Re: What is Palmer up to.
Reply #16 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:38pm

cods wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:03pm:

OldnCrusty wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

Clive is taking revenge on the Mad Monk and the LNP as slowly and painfully as he can. Wink

hes a blackmailer.....hes on a POWER trip.....does anyone trust a word he says...probably Bill. does.. Roll Eyes

.. interesting times.. not sure any of them have the country at heart...it seems to me to be all about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

He is a politician?

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Reply #17 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:40pm

Palmer is a frantic child. He is desperate for Parliament to throw him a lifeline and stop the Chinese taking everything has got! A process already well under way!

Each time the liberal and nationals say no to keeping the Chinese away from him he throws stomps his feet at at them.

Gets his photo in today's paper and is gone tomorrow. Only Palmer thinks he's a somebody.

Pig Ugly Party Senators hold the balance of power only in their dreams.

They will be permanently sidelined in the Senate.

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OldnCrusty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 855 Gender:	Re: What is Palmer up to. Reply #18 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:41pm St George of the Garden wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:00pm: Pity he does not rate the national interest higher. You mean like Abbott does
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Reply #19 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:41pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:26pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:24pm:

This is what Abbott should do. If he holds strong and puts his repeal in the senate, leaving the policy unmodified and it gets blocked again, he should go all the way to the next election and make it a pure and simple election on the carbon tax.

Live by the sword and get his mandate and numbers needed to do it on his own.

Nice thought, but there is zero chance it will happen as has been discussed on other Threads.

For those of us who have lost hope, Aussie, and have no idea how Abbott was planning to legislate his climate change policy, can you explain the intricacies of his planned legislation.

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Reply #20 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:41pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:33pm:

MOTR wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:28pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:24pm:

This is what Abbott should do. If he holds strong and puts his repeal in the senate, leaving the policy unmodified and it gets blocked again, he should go all the way to the next election and make it a pure and simple election on the carbon tax.

Live by the sword and get his mandate and numbers needed to do it on his own.

Are you suggesting he calls Palmers bluff on a DD, or are you suggesting he splits the legislation and holds onto the next election?

He should make it an agonizing long time until the next election, reminding people of all the other parties position on the carbon tax and only a big victory by the liberals will suffice. It will be a sweet victory.

Yeah, guess monkey is too gutless for a DD. Yet the longer monkey waits the more people want to keep the Carbon Price.

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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30091 Gender:	Re: What is Palmer up to. Reply #21 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:42pm St George of the Garden wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:00pm: Pity he does not rate the national interest higher. He'd be far less repugnant if he actually valued his constituents in his own electorate even a little bit, but as always, it's all about Palmer!
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Lobo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7408 Sydney Gender:	Re: What is Palmer up to. Reply #22 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:44pm OldnCrusty wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 5:55pm: Clive is taking revenge on the Mad Monk and the LNP as slowly and painfully as he can. Along the lines of Keating's "We want to do you slowly"?
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Reply #23 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:45pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:33pm:

He should make it an agonizing long time until the next election, reminding people of all the other parties position on the carbon tax and only a big victory by the liberals will suffice. It will be a sweet victory.

Funny, but the political judgment of some on the other side of politics exactly the same - pass everything and have the Mad Monk voted out in a landslide and keep the LNP in the wilderness for a decade Huh

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Reply #24 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:49pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:33pm:

MOTR wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:28pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:24pm:

This is what Abbott should do. If he holds strong and puts his repeal in the senate, leaving the policy unmodified and it gets blocked again, he should go all the way to the next election and make it a pure and simple election on the carbon tax.

Live by the sword and get his mandate and numbers needed to do it on his own.

Are you suggesting he calls Palmers bluff on a DD, or are you suggesting he splits the legislation and holds onto the next election?

He should make it an agonizing long time until the next election, reminding people of all the other parties position on the carbon tax and only a big victory by the liberals will suffice. It will be a sweet victory.

If Australia elects Abbott to power on his polices and gives him the senate, they deserve what they get.

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Reply #25 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:50pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:37pm:

And Clive reveals the catch - no ETS until our trading partners do it Roll Eyes

What a cop-out. One wonders why Al Gore is standing shoulder to shoulder with Palmer on this.

ETS commences 1st July 2015. Already past the House and past the Senate.

Gore is not standing shoulder to shoulder with Palmer, he is taking his money to attend a function with him.

Gore appearances now comes part of his specials package for appearance.

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Reply #26 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:50pm

DaS Energy wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:40pm:

Palmer is a frantic child. He is desperate for Parliament to throw him a lifeline and stop the Chinese taking everything has got! A process already well under way!

Each time the liberal and nationals say no to keeping the Chinese away from him he throws stomps his feet at at them.

Gets his photo in today's paper and is gone tomorrow. Only Palmer thinks he's a somebody.

Pig Ugly Party Senators hold the balance of power only in their dreams.

They will be permanently sidelined in the Senate.

They "share" the balance of power with the ALP and Greens

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Re: What is Palmer up to.
Reply #27 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:53pm

Kytro wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:49pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:33pm:

MOTR wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:28pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:24pm:

This is what Abbott should do. If he holds strong and puts his repeal in the senate, leaving the policy unmodified and it gets blocked again, he should go all the way to the next election and make it a pure and simple election on the carbon tax.

Live by the sword and get his mandate and numbers needed to do it on his own.

Are you suggesting he calls Palmers bluff on a DD, or are you suggesting he splits the legislation and holds onto the next election?

He should make it an agonizing long time until the next election, reminding people of all the other parties position on the carbon tax and only a big victory by the liberals will suffice. It will be a sweet victory.

If Australia elects Abbott to power on his polices and gives him the senate, they deserve what they get.

Maybe they're going to be happy with that if the majority elect him. Isn't that the way it usually works? Duh! Roll Eyes

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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: What is Palmer up to. Reply #28 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:55pm Guaranteed there will be something in it for Clive. Clive is Clive's primary motivation for doing anything.
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Re: What is Palmer up to.
Reply #29 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:58pm

MOTR wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:41pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:26pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:24pm:

This is what Abbott should do. If he holds strong and puts his repeal in the senate, leaving the policy unmodified and it gets blocked again, he should go all the way to the next election and make it a pure and simple election on the carbon tax.

Live by the sword and get his mandate and numbers needed to do it on his own.

Nice thought, but there is zero chance it will happen as has been discussed on other Threads.

For those of us who have lost hope, Aussie, and have no idea how Abbott was planning to legislate his climate change policy, can you explain the intricacies of his planned legislation.

I have no idea, and neither does Abbott. No doubt Peta will whisper sweet nothings in his ear overnight and he'll tell us tomorrow what her response is to Palmer's announcement.

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