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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	What is Palmer up to. Jun 25^th, 2014 at 5:18pm Palmer about to respond to the budget with Al Gore in tow. WTF?
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Kytro Gold Member Offline Blasphemy: a victimless crime Posts: 3409 Adelaide Gender:	Re: What is Palmer up to. Reply #1 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 5:52pm -PUP will vote with the government to abolish carbon tax -PUP will vote against abolition of the climate authority -PUP will not support any changes to the RET before the next election -PUP will vote against abolition of the clean energy finance corporation
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OldnCrusty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 855 Gender:	Re: What is Palmer up to. Reply #2 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 5:55pm Clive is taking revenge on the Mad Monk and the LNP as slowly and painfully as he can.
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Reply #3 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:00pm

OldnCrusty wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

Clive is taking revenge on the Mad Monk and the LNP as slowly and painfully as he can. Wink

Dunno whether it is as simple as that. He's let Abbott off the hook on the repeal of the carbon tax, but has adopted what is really ALP Policy on an ETS, and he will not allow the Climate Authority to be rubbed out.

It wedges Abbott on his commitment to Direct Action which Palmer won't support, neither will Labor, and I dunno about the Greens.

That sounds like good policy rather than revenge.

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: What is Palmer up to. Reply #4 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:00pm Pity he does not rate the national interest higher.
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Reply #5 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:03pm

OldnCrusty wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

Clive is taking revenge on the Mad Monk and the LNP as slowly and painfully as he can. Wink

hes a blackmailer.....hes on a POWER trip.....does anyone trust a word he says...probably Bill. does.. Roll Eyes

.. interesting times.. not sure any of them have the country at heart...it seems to me to be all about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Reply #6 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:05pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:00pm:

OldnCrusty wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

Clive is taking revenge on the Mad Monk and the LNP as slowly and painfully as he can. Wink

Dunno whether it is as simple as that. He's let Abbott off the hook on the repeal of the carbon tax, but has adopted what is really ALP Policy on an ETS, and he will not allow the Climate Authority to be rubbed out.

It wedges Abbott on his commitment to Direct Action which Palmer won't support, neither will Labor, and I dunno about the Greens.

That sounds like good policy rather than revenge.

we know.. and if you dont I feel sorry for you..

he is making it up as he goes along....

he is a spiteful nasty man who sues everyone at the drop of a hat...

he cant do that in politics.. so he thinks he will win friends by doing it this way....I think most people will see him for what he really is..

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: What is Palmer up to. Reply #7 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:19pm Wedges Abbott, which might concentrate the political debate, but will likely just extend corporate subsidy without achieving a meaningful outcome.
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: What is Palmer up to. Reply #8 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:24pm This is what Abbott should do. If he holds strong and puts his repeal in the senate, leaving the policy unmodified and it gets blocked again, he should go all the way to the next election and make it a pure and simple election on the carbon tax. Live by the sword and get his mandate and numbers needed to do it on his own.
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Reply #9 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:25pm

cods wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:00pm:

OldnCrusty wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:

Clive is taking revenge on the Mad Monk and the LNP as slowly and painfully as he can. Wink

Dunno whether it is as simple as that. He's let Abbott off the hook on the repeal of the carbon tax, but has adopted what is really ALP Policy on an ETS, and he will not allow the Climate Authority to be rubbed out.

It wedges Abbott on his commitment to Direct Action which Palmer won't support, neither will Labor, and I dunno about the Greens.

That sounds like good policy rather than revenge.

we know.. and if you dont I feel sorry for you..

he is making it up as he goes along....

he is a spiteful nasty man who sues everyone at the drop of a hat...

he cant do that in politics.. so he thinks he will win friends by doing it this way....I think most people will see him for what he really is..

Let's see how it affects his polling.

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Reply #10 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:26pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:24pm:

This is what Abbott should do. If he holds strong and puts his repeal in the senate, leaving the policy unmodified and it gets blocked again, he should go all the way to the next election and make it a pure and simple election on the carbon tax.

Live by the sword and get his mandate and numbers needed to do it on his own.

Risky. Not sure people are willing to accept his other policies just to kill the carbon tax

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Reply #11 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:26pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:24pm:

This is what Abbott should do. If he holds strong and puts his repeal in the senate, leaving the policy unmodified and it gets blocked again, he should go all the way to the next election and make it a pure and simple election on the carbon tax.

Live by the sword and get his mandate and numbers needed to do it on his own.

Nice thought, but there is zero chance it will happen as has been discussed on other Threads.

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Reply #12 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:28pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:24pm:

This is what Abbott should do. If he holds strong and puts his repeal in the senate, leaving the policy unmodified and it gets blocked again, he should go all the way to the next election and make it a pure and simple election on the carbon tax.

Live by the sword and get his mandate and numbers needed to do it on his own.

Are you suggesting he calls Palmers bluff on a DD, or are you suggesting he splits the legislation and holds onto the next election?

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Reply #13 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:33pm

MOTR wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:28pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:24pm:

This is what Abbott should do. If he holds strong and puts his repeal in the senate, leaving the policy unmodified and it gets blocked again, he should go all the way to the next election and make it a pure and simple election on the carbon tax.

Live by the sword and get his mandate and numbers needed to do it on his own.

Are you suggesting he calls Palmers bluff on a DD, or are you suggesting he splits the legislation and holds onto the next election?

He should make it an agonizing long time until the next election, reminding people of all the other parties position on the carbon tax and only a big victory by the liberals will suffice. It will be a sweet victory.

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Reply #14 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:34pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:33pm:

MOTR wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:28pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 6:24pm:

This is what Abbott should do. If he holds strong and puts his repeal in the senate, leaving the policy unmodified and it gets blocked again, he should go all the way to the next election and make it a pure and simple election on the carbon tax.

Live by the sword and get his mandate and numbers needed to do it on his own.

Are you suggesting he calls Palmers bluff on a DD, or are you suggesting he splits the legislation and holds onto the next election?

He should make it an agonizing long time until the next election, reminding people of all the other parties position on the carbon tax and only a big victory by the liberals will suffice. It will be a sweet victory.

Keep the carbon tax till the next election?

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"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."

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