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Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:15pm
 
My work PC won't let me post the links....if someone could be so kind  Smiley

More onus on proff of ID.

Was 10% risk of being harmed if sent home - now 50%..

On ya Scott!
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Reply #1 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:19pm
 
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/scott-morrison-toughens-asylumseeker-assessment-rules/story-fn9hm1gu-1229666299652
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Reply #2 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:28pm
 
Stop the illegal entry country shoppers.

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Re: Morrison - More changes to asylum seeker laws
Reply #3 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:28pm
 
King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:15pm:
My work PC won't let me post the links....if someone could be so kind  Smiley

More onus on proff of ID.

Was 10% risk of being harmed if sent home - now 50%..

On ya Scott!



It's pretty horrible. It's basically a flip of the coin. You live, you die.

It almost like you think these people are evil and deserve death.


This is nothing more than expediency for the government so they can declare the problem permanently solved. If they can rid of most of the people there, regardless of the risk and keep sending boats away they can say they fixed the issue, but in reality all they will have done is made it other people's issues and sent men to their deaths.
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Reply #4 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:29pm
 
The Federal Government has introduced wide-ranging legislation to overhaul Australia's processing of asylum seeker claims.

Immigration Minister Scott Morrison says his amendments to the Migration Act will make it easier to send asylum seekers to other countries, and demands they provide documents more quickly to support their claim for protection.

"We need the tools to ensure public confidence in Australia's capacity to assess claims for asylum in the interests of this country, and against those who show bad faith," he said.

"These changes uphold the importance of integrity, the establishment of identity and increased efficiency in our protection processing system."

Mr Morrison says, if passed, it would become an asylum seeker's responsibility to prove their claim, and protection visa applications would be refused when a person cannot or will not establish their identity.

"This bill acts on the commitments that this Government, when in opposition, made, the commitment to ensure that those who destroy documents and those who do not engage in good faith of their identity will not be able to game our system," he said.

"Australians need to be confident that those who are found to be refugees are in fact who they say they are."

The Minister says the amendments acknowledge and respect that some asylum seekers, such as stateless people, do not have official documents.

But he says the ultimate responsibility for identification will lie with the asylum seeker.

"If asylum seekers do not cooperate with the Government to establish their identity they should not be given the benefit of a protection visa," he said.

Mr Morrison says the changes have been forced by recent court decisions and by the case load of asylum claims.

The bill is designed to put beyond doubt when a review of a decision has been "finally determined".

Bill raises risk threshold for returning asylum seekers
The bill also raises the risk threshold for sending arrivals in Australia back to another country.

Currently, people will not be returned to the country they came from if there's a 10 per cent chance they will suffer significant harm there.

The Government will now raise that risk threshold to 50 per cent. Mr Morrison says the higher threshold is the Government's interpretation of its international obligations.

"It is the Government's position that the threshold applicable to the non-refoulement obligations under the [United Nation's] Convention against Torture and the ICCPR (International Covenant on Civil and Political rights) is more likely than not," he said.

"More likely than not means that there would be a 50 per cent chance that a person would suffer significant harm in the country they are returned to.

"Now this is an acceptable position which is open to Australia under international law and reflects the Government's interpretation of Australia's obligations."

More likely than not means that there would be a 50 per cent chance that a person would suffer significant harm in the country they are returned to... this is an acceptable position which is open to Australia under international law.
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If passed, the bill would remove provisions for family reunions for asylum seekers who arrived in Australia by boat.

Mr Morrison says a relative of someone with an existing protection visa would not be granted a protection visa simply on the basis of being a member of same family.

He says a person who marries a protection visa holder years after the time they were granted a visa will also not be granted the same visa.

"Family migration is the appropriate pathway in that case," he said.

He says the change also discourages family members of protection visa holders from arriving in Australia.

"This amendment simply encourages members of the same family unit of a protection visa holder to use established pathways for family reunion," Mr Morrison said.

The Immigration Minister was hoping to also include an amendment removing the 90-day time limit for deciding a protection visa application.

However, Mr Morrison says last week's High Court decision ruling that the cap on Temporary Protection Visas is invalid has postponed the proposed changes.

"The Government will be returning to consider that matter after reviewing the High Court decision of last week and leaves the option open to pursue that change in a subsequent piece of legislation that we would seek to bring before this house," he said.

The 90-day rule also demands that a report be made to Parliament if a protection visa application has not been decided.

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Re: Morrison - More changes to asylum seeker laws
Reply #5 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:30pm
 
Kytro wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:28pm:
King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:15pm:
My work PC won't let me post the links....if someone could be so kind  Smiley

More onus on proff of ID.

Was 10% risk of being harmed if sent home - now 50%..

On ya Scott!



It's pretty horrible. It's basically a flip of the coin. You live, you die.

It almost like you think these people are evil and deserve death.


This is nothing more than expediency for the government so they can declare the problem permanently solved. If they can rid of most of the people there, regardless of the risk and keep sending boats away they can say they fixed the issue, but in reality all they will have done is made it other people's issues and sent men to their deaths.


Should have stayed home....
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Reply #6 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:41pm
 
Kytro wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:28pm:
King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:15pm:
My work PC won't let me post the links....if someone could be so kind  Smiley

More onus on proff of ID.

Was 10% risk of being harmed if sent home - now 50%..

On ya Scott!



It's pretty horrible. It's basically a flip of the coin. You live, you die.

It almost like you think these people are evil and deserve death.


This is nothing more than expediency for the government so they can declare the problem permanently solved. If they can rid of most of the people there, regardless of the risk and keep sending boats away they can say they fixed the issue, but in reality all they will have done is made it other people's issues and sent men to their deaths.


In Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams said it best -   the way to make something invisible is to make  it an SEP    (Someone Else's Problem)
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Reply #7 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:49pm
 
The righties don’t disguise their racism much.

Would they object to death camps I wonder?
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Reply #8 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:50pm
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:49pm:
The righties don’t disguise their racism much.

Would they object to death camps I wonder?


Kevin Rudd wanted death camps in PNG.
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Reply #9 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:50pm
 
King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:30pm:
Should have stayed home....


I think the aforementioned possibility of death would be very motivating to leave. I know I would.
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Reply #10 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:51pm
 
Cliff48 wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:41pm:
Kytro wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:28pm:
King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:15pm:
My work PC won't let me post the links....if someone could be so kind  Smiley

More onus on proff of ID.

Was 10% risk of being harmed if sent home - now 50%..

On ya Scott!



It's pretty horrible. It's basically a flip of the coin. You live, you die.

It almost like you think these people are evil and deserve death.


This is nothing more than expediency for the government so they can declare the problem permanently solved. If they can rid of most of the people there, regardless of the risk and keep sending boats away they can say they fixed the issue, but in reality all they will have done is made it other people's issues and sent men to their deaths.


In Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams said it best -   the way to make something invisible is to make  it an SEP    (Someone Else's Problem)



LOL

You really think all these "someone elses" care that it is our problem?

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Reply #11 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:51pm
 
In any case since this requires legislation it may not be as easy to pass as they think
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Reply #12 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:58pm
 
Kytro wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:50pm:
King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:30pm:
Should have stayed home....


I think the aforementioned possibility of death would be very motivating to leave. I know I would.


If you had a passport, enough money for a plane ticket, and enough money to pay a people smuggler.

Other wise you're buggered.

If people want to live in peace they have to stand up and fight for it.

They have to stand up against extremist.

Or nothing will ever change.

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Reply #13 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 5:03pm
 
King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:58pm:
Kytro wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:50pm:
King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:30pm:
Should have stayed home....


I think the aforementioned possibility of death would be very motivating to leave. I know I would.


If you had a passport, enough money for a plane ticket, and enough money to pay a people smuggler.

Other wise you're buggered.

If people want to live in peace they have to stand up and fight for it.

They have to stand up against extremist.

Or nothing will ever change.



Not everyone is willing to die for a belief. I am not. I wouldn't throw myself into some pointless conflict of over religious values.

Standing up against the extremists usually ends in you being murdered.
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Re: Morrison - More changes to asylum seeker laws
Reply #14 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 6:49pm
 
Kytro wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:28pm:
King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 4:15pm:
My work PC won't let me post the links....if someone could be so kind  Smiley

More onus on proff of ID.

Was 10% risk of being harmed if sent home - now 50%..

On ya Scott!



It's pretty horrible. It's basically a flip of the coin. You live, you die.

It almost like you think these people are evil and deserve death.


This is nothing more than expediency for the government so they can declare the problem permanently solved. If they can rid of most of the people there, regardless of the risk and keep sending boats away they can say they fixed the issue, but in reality all they will have done is made it other people's issues and sent men to their deaths.


WRONG. You now need to prove there is a REAL chance that you face risk of torture or death by being sent back home instead of the absurd situation under Labor where even the slimmest of chances saw you given asylum. Also, it is good to see a bigger focus on the destruction of identifying documentation. However, this will only affect those who are already here in the system, as there hasn't been a boat arrive in more than six months. Good job, Morrison!!!  Smiley
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