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Jun 24th, 2014 at 10:33pm
 
Cory Bernardi to join Family First? Ricky Muir to jump ship?

With just days to go until the new Senate takes the reigns, it’s time for some bold political predictions. Here’s three to get the ball rolling.



1. Cory Bernardi will leave the Liberal Party and join Family First


‘The leader of a spearhead movement’ – these are the first words you see when visiting Cory Bernardi’s website. No Liberal party logo, no pictures of Cory and Prime Minister Abbott.

For many years now Cory has been studying and practicing the art of building his own movement. He collects thousands of email addresses and bypasses the media when rallying his troops. All useful for the moment he leaves the Liberal Party. Which I predict is not that far off.

As he entered politics, Cory found himself being mentored by the then leader of the far right faction of the Liberal Party, Nick Minchin. Minchin was a warrior. In South Australia he kept at bay the then moderate, Christopher Pyne. But since leaving the Senate, Minchin’s protégé, Beranardi, has made critical mistakes that have seen him lose any power he may have once held inside Australia’s conservative party.

Having just been re-elected to a six-year term, which starts next week, Cory has squeezed all he can out of the Liberal Party. If even Tony Abbott had to demote him from the front bench, what hope does he have that future, more moderate leaders, will ever give him a guernsey?

And so it is that I predict that Cory will leave the Liberal Party, either to join Family First on the crossbench, by setting up his own fringe party, or simply by leaving to be an Independent.

As one voice alongside 33 other Coalition Senators, Cory has the right to cross the floor. But he knows that every time he does he reduces even further any hope he has of building up his power base inside the Liberal Party.

The Liberals need 39 votes to pursue their agenda in the Senate, meaning they are regularly going in search of support from the Palmer United Party and the Independents. Losing Senator Bernardi to the crossbench would help put the religious-right in the box seat.

Bernardi has a National Press Club address scheduled for the 17th July, and given all the other instability the Abbott Government is facing, I can’t imagine that Tony Abbott’s office approved Bernardi’s appearance. It’s curious also that Senator Bernardi requested the final day of the next Senate sitting for his speech.

Bernardi has already revealed what he’ll be talking about. In the blurb he provided to the National Press Club, he writes: “Voter disenchantment with the two major parties has never been higher while their perception of politicians has never been lower…. Across the world, voters are turning away from ‘politics as usual’ and searching for a different approach…. And so we have seen the rise in support for new parties….”

Whether or not he leaves the Liberal Party in a few weeks time, or holds out for longer, he looks set to be a destabilizing force in the Senate, with his speech to the Press Club a must-see event.


2. Senator-elect Ricky Muir won’t last six years in the Senate


The Australian Motoring Enthusiasts Party, elected as a result of a fluke set of preferences, didn’t ever intend to win a Victorian seat. Knowing their chances were tight, they put all of their efforts into the Queensland Senate race. There, the party had hoped to see its National Secretary, Keith Littler, elected.

The party ran Ricky Muir in Victoria as part of their plan to swap preferences in seats they weren’t attempting to win, in return for preferences in Queensland. Only it didn’t work.

Senator-elect Muir now faces what must be one of the biggest challenges of his life, trying to balance the interests of a group of party members who didn’t ever want to see him in the Senate.

Word from inside the party is that the Victorian branch are deeply unhappy with Muir’s performance so far, some blaming his gatekeeper, Keith Littler.

With Mr Littler throwing Muir into the lion’s den unprepared (the Mike Willesee interview), it may only be a matter of time before he convinces Muir to go back to his quieter life and leave the politics to those who aspire to be in Parliament.



3. Tony Abbott won’t bring his paid parental leave bill to a vote in the Senate


The Coalition and the Greens combined command 43 votes in the Senate. Any issue that unites them should therefore pass the Parliament with ease.

But with a growing number of Coalition Senators lining up to cross the floor, Tony Abbott may decide it best not to test support for his signature policy in the Senate.

Having taken the policy to two elections, you’d think that Liberal Party MPs and Senators will have had ample opportunity to air their concerns. But it seems that only now are their concerns beginning to find voice.

Given how damning a blow this will be for Abbott, he may choose to at least offer parents-to-be a consolation prize, increasing the current paid parental leave scheme from the compromised 18 weeks, to the 26 weeks suggested by health professionals.


With so many of the policies of this Government to be tested in the Senate, one thing’s for sure – we’ll all be paying much more attention to the red leather seats of the usually unassuming Upper House of Parliament.


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Reply #1 - Jun 24th, 2014 at 10:43pm
 
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2. Senator-elect Ricky Muir won’t last six years in the Senate


The Australian Motoring Enthusiasts Party, elected as a result of a fluke set of preferences, didn’t ever intend to win a Victorian seat. Knowing their chances were tight, they put all of their efforts into the Queensland Senate race. There, the party had hoped to see its National Secretary, Keith Littler, elected.

The party ran Ricky Muir in Victoria as part of their plan to swap preferences in seats they weren’t attempting to win, in return for preferences in Queensland. Only it didn’t work.

Senator-elect Muir now faces what must be one of the biggest challenges of his life, trying to balance the interests of a group of party members who didn’t ever want to see him in the Senate.

Word from inside the party is that the Victorian branch are deeply unhappy with Muir’s performance so far, some blaming his gatekeeper, Keith Littler.

With Mr Littler throwing Muir into the lion’s den unprepared (the Mike Willesee interview), it may only be a matter of time before he convinces Muir to go back to his quieter life and leave the politics to those who aspire to be in Parliament.


I agree with the logic.  Muir was never meant to represent that "Party."  There were others who put in much more than Muir in that Party's endeavors.  They are now watching their placebo get all the cherries, having been elected.

I'm sure they are very envious of where Muir is.  But.....Muir is elected, and he has a six year term, and he earns a great deal more than what he is now.  Do they really expect him to resign?

Really?
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Reply #2 - Jun 24th, 2014 at 10:45pm
 
I consider them all real possibilities...  unlikely as they may be.
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Reply #3 - Jun 24th, 2014 at 10:52pm
 
Andrew Elder mentioned Bernardi leaving the Liberal Party in a blog last week. Interesting to see what he will do. FF might be too Evangelical Protestant for him?
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Reply #4 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 8:02am
 
I think Ricky Muir will join PUP as their 4 senator and if Cory Bernardi leaves the Liberal party to sit as a Independent or join the Family First I think it is wrong.

The reason he should stop in the Liberal party is that most people vote above the line in senate elections, so they are voting for a party to represent them in the senate not a candidate. The only way he can justify for leaving the liberal party is if he got more first preference votes below the line then the party got above the line. The same would apply to Muir if he joins PUP.
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Reply #5 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 9:04am
 
John S wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 8:02am:
I think Ricky Muir will join PUP as their 4 senator and if Cory Bernardi leaves the Liberal party to sit as a Independent or join the Family First I think it is wrong.

The reason he should stop in the Liberal party is that most people vote above the line in senate elections, so they are voting for a party to represent them in the senate not a candidate. The only way he can justify for leaving the liberal party is if he got more first preference votes below the line then the party got above the line. The same would apply to Muir if he joins PUP.




I so agree... its happening all the time... anyone can change ship after they have sailed its wrong...

they should go to a by election..that would stop it...

we are being treated like we dont matter... once they are over the line they can please themselves what they do and how they vote..

THAT ISNT RIGHT AT ALL>....

I dont care what it costs........its our rights that are being thrown out the window..
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Reply #6 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 9:20am
 
The carbon tax will go. Palmer won't keep anything that threatens his profit margin. Same goes for the mining tax.
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Reply #7 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 9:27am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 9:20am:
The carbon tax will go. Palmer won't keep anything that threatens his profit margin. Same goes for the mining tax.



What has that got to do with the predictions of the senate for 2014.

If you want to talk about the carbon & mining taxes start another thread and don't hijack this one.

Now armpit what have you got to say about the predictions for the senate?
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Reply #8 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 9:32am
 
Without the Liberal Party protecting him Cori Bernardi will be lucky to get more than three people to vote for him so the sooner he leaves the party and destroys his pathetic political career the better for all of us.

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Reply #9 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 9:40am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 9:20am:
The carbon tax will go. Palmer won't keep anything that threatens his profit margin. Same goes for the mining tax.


This is very likely, though it depends on how it is presented. If the package includes direct action, then it makes it less likely.
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Reply #10 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 10:54am
 
John S wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 9:27am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 9:20am:
The carbon tax will go. Palmer won't keep anything that threatens his profit margin. Same goes for the mining tax.



What has that got to do with the predictions of the senate for 2014.

If you want to talk about the carbon & mining taxes start another thread and don't hijack this one.

Now armpit what have you got to say about the predictions for the senate?


Palmer has a fair bit of power in the Senate, so the carbon & mining taxes are relevant to this topic.
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Reply #11 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 11:45am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 10:54am:
John S wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 9:27am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 9:20am:
The carbon tax will go. Palmer won't keep anything that threatens his profit margin. Same goes for the mining tax.



What has that got to do with the predictions of the senate for 2014.

If you want to talk about the carbon & mining taxes start another thread and don't hijack this one.

Now armpit what have you got to say about the predictions for the senate?


Palmer has a fair bit of power in the Senate, so the carbon & mining taxes are relevant to this topic.



I admitted that Palmer has a fair bit of power when the new senate sits but this thread is not about Palmer, the carbon tax or the mining tax, it is a bit about Bernardi leaving the liberal party to join the Family First party starting his own party or sitting as a independent in the senate.

You don't like the idea of a liberal party member leaving the party and the liberals will be one vote down.

It will means that Abbott has now 9 senators and not 8 senators, to negotiate with to get his legislation through the senate. The question is has Bernardi got any other senators to join him if he starts a new party or to join with Family First party.
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Reply #12 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 12:06pm
 
1. By abstaining and voicing his protest to the tax-levy bill, Bernardi revealed a rather unique ideological position: he is strongly socially conservative (which we knew already), but also, it seems, strongly pro capitalist/free market. I've not heard of many religiously socially conservatives who hold such a position, and I'm certain it would be anathema to a party like Family First. I can't imagine many religious conservative parties who would embrace him. Since he holds position from both the main factions in the liberal party ('wet' and 'dry'), perhaps the liberal party is the best party for him.

2. Muir might be exposing himself as a bumbling fool, but he is now a bumbling fool on 400k a year. What is he earning in his current job? A tiny fraction of that I'll wager. Someone with his social status and (lets be fair here) - intellect, it is an opportunity he would be mad to forego. Its only 6 years of relative pain, and then he is financially set up for life (remembering he will earn a generous pension as well). The prospect of Palmer convincing him to join PUP is far more likely than him resigning from the senate.

3. Abbott's scheme as we know it today is probably already dead in the water. However Abbott will consider it extremely important getting something resembling his "signature policy" through. The final bill will probably be unrecognisable, but it will be something.
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Reply #13 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 12:34pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 12:06pm:
2. Muir might be exposing himself as a bumbling fool, but he is now a bumbling fool on 400k a year. What is he earning in his current job? A tiny fraction of that I'll wager. Someone with his social status and (lets be fair here) - intellect, it is an opportunity he would be mad to forego. Its only 6 years of relative pain, and then he is financially set up for life (remembering he will earn a generous pension as well). The prospect of Palmer convincing him to join PUP is far more likely than him resigning from the senate.

Muir lacks political finesse and would be a liability if he was to join PUP. The current arrangements suit Palmer better than to have Muir join PUP. If Muir was to fail as a Senator, it would be easier for PUP to cut him loose without harming PUP.
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Reply #14 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 12:44pm
 
I believe a senator's annual pay is around $193k
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