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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Religion has no place in public life Reply #75 - Jun 27^th, 2014 at 6:53pm ... wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 6:40pm: What about the koran, the talmud or the upanishads? Religion has no place in public life no one specified what religions.
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Reply #76 - Jun 27^th, 2014 at 6:57pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 6:53pm:

... wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 6:40pm:

What about the koran, the talmud or the upanishads?

Religion has no place in public life

no one specified what religions.

Vikaryan has made specific reference to the bible and christianity on several occasions. Why am I not surprised you missed that?

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Reply #77 - Jun 27^th, 2014 at 7:00pm

... wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 6:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 6:53pm:

... wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 6:40pm:

What about the koran, the talmud or the upanishads?

Religion has no place in public life

no one specified what religions.

Vikaryan has made specific reference to the bible and christianity on several occasions. Why am I not surprised you missed that?

shall he list all of the 4200 globally recognised religions next time just to make sure you don't feel left out?

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Reply #78 - Jun 27^th, 2014 at 7:06pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 7:00pm:

... wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 6:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 6:53pm:

... wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 6:40pm:

What about the koran, the talmud or the upanishads?

Religion has no place in public life

no one specified what religions.

Vikaryan has made specific reference to the bible and christianity on several occasions. Why am I not surprised you missed that?

shall he list all of the 4200 globally recognised religions next time just to make sure you don't feel left out?

I'd still feel left out because I don't belong to any of them.

It's important because it suggests it's not a principled stand against religion in general, but a vendetta against a specific religion. I don't think vendetta is a good justification for public policy, do you?

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Reply #79 - Jun 27^th, 2014 at 9:05pm

... wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 7:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 7:00pm:

... wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 6:57pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 6:53pm:

... wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 6:40pm:

What about the koran, the talmud or the upanishads?

Religion has no place in public life

no one specified what religions.

Vikaryan has made specific reference to the bible and christianity on several occasions. Why am I not surprised you missed that?

shall he list all of the 4200 globally recognised religions next time just to make sure you don't feel left out?

I'd still feel left out because I don't belong to any of them.

It's important because it suggests it's not a principled stand against religion in general, but a vendetta against a specific religion. I don't think vendetta is a good justification for public policy, do you?

only in your mind

vikaryan wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:12pm:

God's Judeo-Christian moralities have failed us.

So have those of other religions

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Reply #81 - Jun 27^th, 2014 at 10:05pm

vikaryan wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:12pm:

Religion is like communism: Wherever true believers get control, repression and stagnation result.

God's Judeo-Christian moralities have failed us. So have those of other religions. We deserve something better. It should be based on the needs of this life, not some imagined one hereafter. Good can only come from the truth.

The facts are that the scientific evidence in support of evolutionary theory is overwhelming and each year grows in strength by research conducted and published by the world's scientists. U.S. National Medal of Science recipient Theodosis Dobzhansky stated, "nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution." I could not agree more.

Evolution, like any field of science, is purposely limited to seeking natural explanations for observable phenomena. Evolution does not question or explain theological beliefs, nor does it explain our aesthetic or spiritual experiences. These all fall outside the realm of science.

Yes of course you found the missing links yawn, all dating systems use best guesses to millions of years and at the end of the day you need a God to kick it all off. Nothing in science has disproved Christianity yet.

I'd say that Christianity hasn't failed us at all. It said all this nonsense would be around in the last days. I'd say it was on the money. Don't let that stand in the way of a good evolutionist rant BTW.

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vikaryan Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 453 Gender:	Re: Religion has no place in public life Reply #82 - Jun 27^th, 2014 at 11:07pm There is no good objective evidence for God's existence.
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Reply #83 - Jun 27^th, 2014 at 11:47pm

vikaryan wrote on Jun 27^th, 2014 at 11:07pm:

There is no good objective evidence for God's existence.

My goodness any need for the silly image. Get a grip.

To answer that silly rant it depends on how you look at it. First of all you wouldn't know if a God existed or not in the first place from your perspective. You just have your own belief, anger whatever you call it but no definitive proof he doesn't.

You say objective evidence, so now you are applying a law to evidence made by mankind's knowledge at this point in time of a physical world to prove existence of a deity that manifests his presence in a physical world by his creations. Who himself resides in another spiritual world.

One simple objective piece of evidence would be creation. Intelligent design of human beings, animals nature etc. Of course these things would have been designed by a God if He existed. Therefore it is plausible unless of course you are all bent out of shape over the concept and closed minded. That's just one.

You need to do some more thought on your approach before rolling out that chestnut.

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Reply #84 - Jun 28^th, 2014 at 12:08pm

If God wants something from me, he would tell me. He wouldn't leave someone else to do this, as if an infinite being were short on time. And he would certainly not leave fallible, sinful humans to deliver an endless plethora of confused and contradictory messages. God would deliver the message himself, directly, to each and every one of us, and with such clarity as the most brilliant being in the universe could accomplish.

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Reply #85 - Jun 28^th, 2014 at 1:17pm

vikaryan wrote on Jun 28^th, 2014 at 12:08pm:

If God wants something from me, he would tell me. He wouldn't leave someone else to do this, as if an infinite being were short on time. And he would certainly not leave fallible, sinful humans to deliver an endless plethora of confused and contradictory messages. God would deliver the message himself, directly, to each and every one of us, and with such clarity as the most brilliant being in the universe could accomplish.

LOL

and I bet you have asked Him sincerely to reveal Himself to you Grin

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Reply #86 - Jun 28^th, 2014 at 1:24pm

many blessings ,

one such as I am observes divinity

with all beings yes , and as such

all have freewill .... however

mind the karmic repercussions

of every thought now dear ones

as these will manifest very quickly now

some may or may not have noticed

as all remains well enough

so be at peace

namaste

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Grand Duke Imam Mahdi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 564 Gender:	Re: Religion has no place in public life Reply #87 - Jun 28^th, 2014 at 1:26pm The only thing you are is out of the loony bin for a walk to the local internet cafe.
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vikaryan Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 453 Gender:	Re: Religion has no place in public life Reply #88 - Jun 28^th, 2014 at 1:53pm He ("GOD" or "LORD") is the world's biggest moocher.
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Grand Duke Imam Mahdi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 564 Gender:	Re: Religion has no place in public life Reply #89 - Jun 28^th, 2014 at 1:55pm Well clearly the braincells have upped sticks and left this thread.
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Religion is private and personal 18 (40.9%) Politics and religion are inseparable 9 (20.5%) Religion is false 5 (11.4%) Evolution is real 6 (13.6%) Atheism is true 6 (13.6%) Total votes: 44 « Created by: vikaryan on: Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:12pm »