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Question: Religion has no place in public life
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Religion is private and personal    
  18 (40.9%)
Politics and religion are inseparable    
  9 (20.5%)
Religion is false    
  5 (11.4%)
Evolution is real    
  6 (13.6%)
Atheism is true    
  6 (13.6%)




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Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:12pm
 
Religion is like communism: Wherever true believers get control, repression and stagnation result.

God's Judeo-Christian moralities have failed us. So have those of other religions. We deserve something better. It should be based on the needs of this life, not some imagined one hereafter. Good can only come from the truth.

The facts are that the scientific evidence in support of evolutionary theory is overwhelming and each year grows in strength by research conducted and published by the world's scientists. U.S. National Medal of Science recipient Theodosis Dobzhansky stated, "nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution." I could not agree more.

Evolution, like any field of science, is purposely limited to seeking natural explanations for observable phenomena. Evolution does not question or explain theological beliefs, nor does it explain our aesthetic or spiritual experiences. These all fall outside the realm of science.
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Reply #1 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:17pm
 
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Sorry... the effects of "Religion" are all around us.  It is as much a part of public life as it is of private.

As for God...  I wouldn't try second guessing Him or His motives.

Epicurus seems to have missed the purpose of life.
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Reply #2 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:20pm
 
ooh how edgy - an anti-religion thread.
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Reply #3 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:21pm
 
vikaryan wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:12pm:
Religion is like communism: Wherever true believers get control, repression and stagnation result.


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Reply #4 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:22pm
 
Creationists resist evolution because they believe that everyone will lose their morals if evolution is generally accepted. They reject evolution because they have been indoctrinated into believing that morals and ethics have a divine origin.
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Reply #5 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:23pm
 
For those of you who do not believe in evolution, I dare you to accept this challenge. Next time you take your kid to the doctor for an infection, accept nothing but good old-fashioned penicillin. That should work just fine because bacteria, like all creatures, exist today just as God created them thousands of years ago. Because there is no such thing as evolution, what killed bacteria in 1950 should still be able to kill them today, right?

Go ahead — take a chance.
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Reply #6 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:25pm
 
It's a matter of personal choice, but it should be kept totally as a personal thing and not pushed on others.
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Reply #7 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:26pm
 
Linking communism with religion


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Reply #8 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:30pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:25pm:
It's a matter of personal choice, but it should be kept totally as a personal thing and not pushed on others.


How exactly does one "push it onto others?"

If you don't want to believe, no amount of persuading can make you.

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Reply #9 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:36pm
 
Accommodationism is intellectually untenable. To say that it is possible to be both a theist and a scientist is simply a disingenuous way of saying that human beings are capable of maintaining cognitive dissonance, i.e. simultaneously holding two or more mutually contradictory sets of beliefs.
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Reply #10 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:53pm
 
vikaryan wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:23pm:
For those of you who do not believe in evolution, I dare you to accept this challenge. Next time you take your kid to the doctor for an infection, accept nothing but good old-fashioned penicillin. That should work just fine because bacteria, like all creatures, exist today just as God created them thousands of years ago. Because there is no such thing as evolution, what killed bacteria in 1950 should still be able to kill them today, right?

Go ahead — take a chance.

How you going with that missing link?
How you going with the new discoveries re hominids; The Hobbitt, The Red Deer cave people etc?
What makes you think, Evolution the theory, as so far applied to Man by some, is 100% correct? 
What makes you think it contradicts the Bible?
Have you ever watched "Inherit the Wind"?
What do you know about the Scopes "Monkey" Trial?
What do you make of the quote:"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." and "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return."?  Ashes to ashes, dust to dust...
What don't you understand about most Christians not seeing Genesis as literal?
What do you actually know about "religion" and "scripture"?
It would seem not too much.  But then, most critics don't.
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Reply #11 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:54pm
 
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:25pm:
It's a matter of personal choice, but it should be kept totally as a personal thing and not pushed on others.

Just like Atheism...
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Reply #12 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:55pm
 
vikaryan wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:36pm:
Accommodationism is intellectually untenable. To say that it is possible to be both a theist and a scientist is simply a disingenuous way of saying that human beings are capable of maintaining cognitive dissonance, i.e. simultaneously holding two or more mutually contradictory sets of beliefs.

Yet many great Scientists were men of Religion or Belief...
who saw no contradictions...
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Reply #13 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 3:33pm
 
Interesting...the ones defending god in public life are the same ones who deny global warming, reject evolution, and believe Abbotts lies...see the pattern there?   Wink


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Reply #14 - Jun 25th, 2014 at 3:36pm
 
austranger wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 3:33pm:
Interesting...the ones defending god in public life are the same ones who deny global warming, reject evolution, and believe Abbotts lies...see the pattern there?   Wink


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Really....  how simplistic and how wrong of you.  Keep cherry picking though, with your myopia as well, you are on a real winner there.  Great argument.  Cheesy
Perhaps you should read what people say before creating your own strawmen there eh?
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