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Question: Religion has no place in public life
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Religion is private and personal    
  18 (40.9%)
Politics and religion are inseparable    
  9 (20.5%)
Religion is false    
  5 (11.4%)
Evolution is real    
  6 (13.6%)
Atheism is true    
  6 (13.6%)




Total votes: 44
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Reply #45 - Jun 26th, 2014 at 12:15pm
 
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Reply #46 - Jun 26th, 2014 at 12:28pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 10:23am:
is it ok for a religion to publically behead people ?



I find it about the same moral level as lethal injections
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #47 - Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:21pm
 

Race, gender, age, religion, political affiliation etc identify us as individuals both privately and publicly.

Perhaps we ought to simply embrace our differences. After all, our differences is what makes us the same.
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Reply #48 - Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:21pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 5:21pm:
Race, gender, age, religion, political affiliation etc identify us as individuals both privately and publicly.

Perhaps we ought to simply embrace our differences. After all, our differences is what makes us the same.


Technically it's the consistency of the differences that make us the same.
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Reply #49 - Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:50pm
 
... wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 9:42am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 9:49pm:
... wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:30pm:
Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:25pm:
It's a matter of personal choice, but it should be kept totally as a personal thing and not pushed on others.


How exactly does one "push it onto others?"

If you don't want to believe, no amount of persuading can make you.



one exam,ple would be by forcing schools to use chaplains rather than councilors


It's a very poor example.

How does a chaplain force someone to believe?


it's called brainwashing Wink
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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #50 - Jun 26th, 2014 at 8:53pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 10:08am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 9:51pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 25th, 2014 at 2:53pm:
What makes you think it contradicts the Bible?

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it does nothing but !

Really?
Show once again dear troll how illiterate and ignorant you are.
I know many religious people who think it does nothing of the sort.
I happen to agree with them, but then they and I am not fundamentalists.
You fit into the fundamentalist mold.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


fundamentalist mould?  Grin Grin Grin Grin nice try Gretel

About how long ago would you say god created Adam & Eve, Grendel? According to the bible the most it can be is about 5000 yrs ago ... and yet we have fossils dating back much further than that ... if you don't think thats a contradiction I don't know what is

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Reply #51 - Jun 26th, 2014 at 10:49pm
 
The bible is a nonsense. Most of the OT was written as a propaganda tract when the Assyrians were besieging Jerusalem having conquered the rest of Israel. The OT was written 2 generations after the events it supposedly chronicles.

And is self contradictory. And full of hate.
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Reply #52 - Jun 26th, 2014 at 11:03pm
 
Tony wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 10:49pm:
The bible is a nonsense. Most of the OT was written as a propaganda tract when the Assyrians were besieging Jerusalem having conquered the rest of Israel. The OT was written 2 generations after the events it supposedly chronicles.

And is self contradictory. And full of hate.


The bibles propaganda and there is plenty of it, as it exists today is just the proganda selected and edited in the 1600s.

I cannot think of any great religious works that are not full of hate, they are written by humans who projected or perceived a humanity in the gods and considered themselves conceived from, so it is only natural that gods as well were jealous and fought for supremacy. 
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Reply #53 - Jun 26th, 2014 at 11:52pm
 
damn technology!
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Reply #54 - Jun 26th, 2014 at 11:54pm
 
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Atheism and Ignorance


A lot of people look at me funny when I say that I’m atheist, I think in part because they assume I’m just trying to be difficult and offend them, but also because they assume I’m just ignorant to religion.

I was brought up in a semi-catholic household, with a sceptical agnostic father and a catholic mother who came from a decently religious family. I attended church on Sundays with my siblings, mother and grandparents and both my primary and secondary educations were achieved in Private Catholic Schools. I studied texts and traditions in my later years of High School, where I learned how to analyse the bible and see its intended messages, good and bad. I went on to study Philosophy in University, where I focused on religious issues. In the past few years, I have experimented with religions in varying degrees, including practicing various branches of Wicca and Paganism along with Buddhism, as well as researching Lutherism, Anglican and Orthodox religions. 

I have always been a creative, literary person. I have never been drawn to the sciences or to logic, it bored me and I didn’t want to believe that there was nothing more. I have experienced many tremendous things in my life including second chances at life and apparently spiritual hallucinations. I have had semi-accurate tarot readings and experienced some interesting things in my own mind. I have never had any clear explanation for these experiences, so I always referred to myself as Agnostic.

After dedicating a lot of my time to research on religions as a whole, including Richard Dawkin’s The God Delusion, I have come to terms with the fact that I am now, and always have been, an Atheist. I do not believe in divine creation, eternal happiness after death or any higher power. I stand by scientific discoveries and evolution. I do not look up and speak words to the sky and pray, I look down and read words from scholars and scientists, inventors and leaders. I will not kill fellow man in the name of God, I will not kill fellow man in the name of faith. Religion gives people purpose in their lives, but it has poisoned the water in every place in this world it has spread.

My point is, please don’t assume my lack of faith to be a show ignorance, and I will not assume your show of faith is a lack of intelligence.
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We fight a holy war against the fat and the corrupt and the sinful and the unbelieving!
 
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Reply #55 - Jun 27th, 2014 at 8:16am
 
ANTI-THEISM

Because just being an Atheist is not enough!
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Reply #56 - Jun 27th, 2014 at 8:18am
 
“[…] You probably think the Inquisition was a perversion of the ‘true’ spirit of Christianity. Perhaps it was. The problem, however, is that the teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. You are, of course, free to interpret the Bible differently—though isn’t it amazing that you have succeeded in discerning the true teachings of Christianity, while the most influential thinkers in the history of your faith failed?”

—  Sam Harris, Letter to a Christian Nation (2006)
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Reply #57 - Jun 27th, 2014 at 8:33am
 
Tony wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 10:49pm:
The bible is a nonsense. Most of the OT was written as a propaganda tract when the Assyrians were besieging Jerusalem having conquered the rest of Israel. The OT was written 2 generations after the events it supposedly chronicles.

And is self contradictory. And full of hate.

Why is it self contradictory?
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Reply #58 - Jun 27th, 2014 at 8:49am
 
adults shouldn't have IMAGINARY FRIENDS
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Reply #59 - Jun 27th, 2014 at 9:42am
 
Tony wrote on Jun 26th, 2014 at 10:49pm:
The bible is a nonsense. Most of the OT was written as a propaganda tract when the Assyrians were besieging Jerusalem having conquered the rest of Israel. The OT was written 2 generations after the events it supposedly chronicles.

And is self contradictory. And full of hate.


Maybe so, but I can guarantee that some of your most deepest held beliefs are equally nonsensical. 
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