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Reply #15 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 3:49pm

austranger wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 3:33pm:

Interesting...the ones defending god in public life are the same ones who deny global warming, reject evolution, and believe Abbotts lies...see the pattern there? Wink

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Well considering I'm one of 2 people who could conceivably be thought to be "defending god in public life" yet none of your other conditions apply to me, I'd say your theory needs more work.

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Reply #16 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 3:54pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

It's a matter of personal choice, but it should be kept totally as a personal thing and not pushed on others.

Just like Atheism...

Well atheism isn't a belief system. It's a lack of a belief in a god/s. A (without), theism (belief in the existence of a god or gods).

Now there are some movements like new atheism, and some groups of anti-theists that have specific values of course, some of them like the anti-theist do advocate getting rid of religion altogether.

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Cliff48 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics /> Posts: 2109 Canberra Gender:	Re: Religion has no place in public life Reply #17 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 3:55pm The poll looks like one devised by Armpit - to get the answers he wants. I wont respond unless there is some reference to: Agnostic, Couldn't give a poo!
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Reply #18 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 7:51pm

Kytro wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 3:54pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

It's a matter of personal choice, but it should be kept totally as a personal thing and not pushed on others.

Just like Atheism...

Well atheism isn't a belief system. It's a lack of a belief in a god/s. A (without), theism (belief in the existence of a god or gods).

Now there are some movements like new atheism, and some groups of anti-theists that have specific values of course, some of them like the anti-theist do advocate getting rid of religion altogether.

Doesn't stop them from shoving Atheism down the throats of others though does it...

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Reply #19 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 8:01pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 7:51pm:

Kytro wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 3:54pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

It's a matter of personal choice, but it should be kept totally as a personal thing and not pushed on others.

Just like Atheism...

Well atheism isn't a belief system. It's a lack of a belief in a god/s. A (without), theism (belief in the existence of a god or gods).

Now there are some movements like new atheism, and some groups of anti-theists that have specific values of course, some of them like the anti-theist do advocate getting rid of religion altogether.

Doesn't stop them from shoving Atheism down the throats of others though does it...

Really? Who is them? I have never seen a government trying to shove atheism down the kiddies throats but I have seen them try to shove bible bashing down the kiddies gobs, not to mention the kiddy fiddlers that represent the church. Roll Eyes

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Re: Religion has no place in public life
Reply #20 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 8:53pm

skippy. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 8:01pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 7:51pm:

Kytro wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 3:54pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

It's a matter of personal choice, but it should be kept totally as a personal thing and not pushed on others.

Just like Atheism...

Well atheism isn't a belief system. It's a lack of a belief in a god/s. A (without), theism (belief in the existence of a god or gods).

Now there are some movements like new atheism, and some groups of anti-theists that have specific values of course, some of them like the anti-theist do advocate getting rid of religion altogether.

Doesn't stop them from shoving Atheism down the throats of others though does it...

Really? Who is them? I have never seen a government trying to shove atheism down the kiddies throats but I have seen them try to shove bible bashing down the kiddies gobs, not to mention the kiddy fiddlers that represent the church. Roll Eyes

Atheists Skippy I was talking about Atheists... lots of them like shoving it down peoples throats just like the God botherers do.

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Reply #22 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 9:49pm

... wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

It's a matter of personal choice, but it should be kept totally as a personal thing and not pushed on others.

How exactly does one "push it onto others?"

If you don't want to believe, no amount of persuading can make you.

one exam,ple would be by forcing schools to use chaplains rather than councilors

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Religion has no place in public life Reply #23 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 9:51pm Grendel wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:53pm: What makes you think it contradicts the Bible? it does nothing but !
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Reply #24 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 10:57pm

I notice there is no section for agnostics. We agnostics are a persecuted minority, what with our self confessed lack of explanation for how or why we are here. Because we have the wisdom to know that we don't have the answers for our existence we are cast out as irrelevant by the rest of society.

I demand the state allow us the right to practice our lack of beliefs in a public setting and I demand the state allow us the right to raise funds that will allow us to spread the word of apathy to all the believers.

Join us in not giving a damn about we why are here or where we go when we die.

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Reply #25 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 11:02pm

fractalign wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 10:57pm:

I notice there is no section for agnostics. We agnostics are a persecuted minority, what with our self confessed lack of explanation for how or why we are here. Because we have the wisdom to know that we don't have the answers for our existence we are cast out as irrelevant by the rest of society.

I demand the state allow us the right to practice our lack of beliefs in a public setting and I demand the state allow us the right to raise funds that will allow us to spread the word of apathy to all the believers.

Join us in not giving a damn about we why are here or where we go when we die.

I demand the same tax perks as given to other religious organisations Grin

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #26 - Jun 25^th, 2014 at 11:03pm

Kytro wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 3:54pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

It's a matter of personal choice, but it should be kept totally as a personal thing and not pushed on others.

Just like Atheism...

Well atheism isn't a belief system. It's a lack of a belief in a god/s. A (without), theism (belief in the existence of a god or gods).

Now there are some movements like new atheism, and some groups of anti-theists that have specific values of course, some of them like the anti-theist do advocate getting rid of religion altogether.

The true non believers are actually Agnostics. Even most atheists have a theory as to how life came about.
Agnostics neither know nor care and by doing so reject all theories of life.

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Reply #27 - Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:23am

fractalign wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 11:03pm:

Kytro wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 3:54pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

It's a matter of personal choice, but it should be kept totally as a personal thing and not pushed on others.

Just like Atheism...

Well atheism isn't a belief system. It's a lack of a belief in a god/s. A (without), theism (belief in the existence of a god or gods).

Now there are some movements like new atheism, and some groups of anti-theists that have specific values of course, some of them like the anti-theist do advocate getting rid of religion altogether.

The true non believers are actually Agnostics. Even most atheists have a theory as to how life came about.
Agnostics neither know nor care and by doing so reject all theories of life.

I suggest you reread the definitions, because thats not what agnostics believe.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Re: Religion has no place in public life
Reply #28 - Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:32am

Grendel wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 8:53pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 8:01pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 7:51pm:

Kytro wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 3:54pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:54pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

It's a matter of personal choice, but it should be kept totally as a personal thing and not pushed on others.

Just like Atheism...

Well atheism isn't a belief system. It's a lack of a belief in a god/s. A (without), theism (belief in the existence of a god or gods).

Now there are some movements like new atheism, and some groups of anti-theists that have specific values of course, some of them like the anti-theist do advocate getting rid of religion altogether.

Doesn't stop them from shoving Atheism down the throats of others though does it...

Really? Who is them? I have never seen a government trying to shove atheism down the kiddies throats but I have seen them try to shove bible bashing down the kiddies gobs, not to mention the kiddy fiddlers that represent the church. Roll Eyes

Atheists Skippy I was talking about Atheists... lots of them like shoving it down peoples throats just like the God botherers do.

They come knocking on your door on Sunday mornings, do they?

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Reply #29 - Jun 26^th, 2014 at 9:42am

John Smith wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 9:49pm:

... wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

Grappler Racist Filth wrote on Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:25pm:

It's a matter of personal choice, but it should be kept totally as a personal thing and not pushed on others.

How exactly does one "push it onto others?"

If you don't want to believe, no amount of persuading can make you.

one exam,ple would be by forcing schools to use chaplains rather than councilors

It's a very poor example.

How does a chaplain force someone to believe?

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Religion is private and personal 18 (40.9%) Politics and religion are inseparable 9 (20.5%) Religion is false 5 (11.4%) Evolution is real 6 (13.6%) Atheism is true 6 (13.6%) Total votes: 44 « Created by: vikaryan on: Jun 25^th, 2014 at 2:12pm »