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Question: Religion has no place in public life
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Religion is private and personal    
  18 (40.9%)
Politics and religion are inseparable    
  9 (20.5%)
Religion is false    
  5 (11.4%)
Evolution is real    
  6 (13.6%)
Atheism is true    
  6 (13.6%)




Total votes: 44
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Reply #105 - Jul 4th, 2014 at 12:06pm
 
Selecting when to apply Christian beliefs is often based on what is convenient and not financially devastating to a business. Perhaps Hobby Lobby can afford to apply its strong Christian beliefs to the denial of coverage for the “morning after pill” – but not in the case of severing business relations with China. Theoretically, that seems hypocritical.

Any religious beliefs should be invoked consistently and not just on the occasions that are financially convenient to use for the promotion of religious standards and seemingly make one feel better about oneself.

http://www.wwl.com/Scoot-Is-Hobby-Lobby-guilty-of-Christian-hypocrisy/13069478?pid=412432
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Reply #106 - Jul 4th, 2014 at 1:26pm
 
To a great extent, the decision turns on whether a business is a "person." This is the same minefield the court seeded in its infamous Citizens United case in 2010, when it held that campaign finance laws limiting corporate contributions violated corporations' free-speech rights. The detonation of those mines has laid waste to the electoral process, turning it into a playground for corporate interests. (More of a playground, anyway.)

Here the court's majority rules that a privately held company is, in effect, a "person" that can express religious convictions. Alito sugarcoats that finding, acknowledging that corporate personhood is a "fiction," but one designed to "provide protection for human beings."

Ginsburg also picks that assertion clean. "The exercise of religion is characteristic of natural persons, not artificial legal entities," she writes, quoting retired Justice John Paul Stevens as having observed in the Citizens United case that corporations "have no consciences, no beliefs, no feelings, no thoughts, no desires."

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-corporations-can-pray-20140630-column.html
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Reply #107 - Jul 4th, 2014 at 2:50pm
 
Know religion, no peace. No religion, know peace.
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Reply #108 - Jul 4th, 2014 at 6:50pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 4th, 2014 at 10:30am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 6:42pm:
A funny thing is that the 'progressives', while stringently anti-religious, adopt a number of Christianity's tenets in their utopian vision.



How is that funny?



It's funny in the way they don't realise the irony.
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Reply #109 - Jul 4th, 2014 at 8:22pm
 
nationalistnotebook reblogged this from whitesupremacymemes and added:

Remember when the two “Boston marathon bombers” stole a car with a Coexist bumper sticker on it? LOL!

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Reply #110 - Jul 6th, 2014 at 2:10pm
 
WILL CONVERT FOR EVIDENCE
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Reply #111 - Jul 6th, 2014 at 6:30pm
 
Cave-man mentality


The Constitution guarantees freedom of belief for every individual. That guarantee does not extend to one individual using that belief to impinge on the rights of another.

It is ironic that in 1857 the Supreme Court ruled, in the Dred Scott decision, that blacks were not people but property.

Now the Supreme Court has ruled that corporations are not property, but people with health care rights! One wonders what cave some of these Supreme Court justices live in.

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Reply #112 - Jul 7th, 2014 at 1:46pm
 
Final Thoughts on the Book of Ecclesiastes:

The author of Ecclesiastes is named only as “The Teacher” and as soon as we meet him, we realize that he’s having an existential crisis. After examining the world, the Teacher can’t help but come to the conclusion that everything is ultimately meaningless in this world.  Some of the thoughts or situations that the Teacher said made him start thinking about the meaninglessness of life were the following:

    The meaninglessness of working hard to build or create something, when none of that is going to matter after you die.
    That there is nothing new or original anymore in this world and that pretty much everything has already been done before.
    The meaninglessness of learning and becoming wise, as both the wise man and the fool die in the end.
    And the fact that bad things happen to good people, while bad people sometimes are very successful and live long lives.

The Teacher never changes his mind that life is ultimately meaningless, but he does formulate some conclusions about how we can cope with this meaninglessness in life. He does talk about God a little bit, saying things like, “This…is from the hand of God, for without him, who can eat or find enjoyment?” and “Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man” but this part of his conclusions sort of feel out of place, as if someone later added the text to offset the secular feel of the rest of it.

Repeatedly though, the Teacher says, “There is nothing better than” to be happy, eat and drink, find satisfaction in and perform with all our might the work we do, enjoy our spouse, follow our heart, and to cast off any anxieties or fears. He basically concludes, “Look; if there is no meaning to life, that’s okay. Enjoy life as it is. Create your own meaning.” I appreciate this.

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Reply #113 - Jul 7th, 2014 at 1:54pm
 
When Kepler found his long-cherished belief did not agree with the most precise observation, he accepted the uncomfortable fact. He preferred the hard truth to his dearest illusions; that is the heart of science.


Carl Sagan (via whats-out-there)

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Reply #114 - Jul 8th, 2014 at 9:49am
 
In fact, historical evidence against the Bible, generally speaking, has proved most convincing. The Bible isn’t authoritative. Yahweh is an ancient war god belonging to a polytheist Judaic pantheon. The Christ of the Gospels simply didn’t exist; there was never a demon exorcising, ear pasting, water walking, water-to-wine turning, leper healing, resurrecting Jesus.

If Christianity is true, test its claims. Is the Bible infallible? Are its stories true? Does a god like the monster in the OT really exist? Did Jesus exist? If so, was he anything like the Christ in the Gospels? Did he resurrect? Is orthodoxy correct or is it simply the view that won over others?

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Reply #115 - Jul 8th, 2014 at 9:51am
 
academicatheism:

Here’s the problem: you shouldn’t be sure of Christianity. Thus, you shouldn’t be showing concern. It is incumbent on you to justify your certainty. Why are you sure? You can’t simply assert what you believe to be true without justifying it.

Jesus didn’t come and wipe the slate clean and thus, doesn’t loose chains of addiction, disease, and so on. Jesus is either a mythologized historical person or a historicized mythological person. The Christ of the Gospels didn’t exist and if you’d like, I can justify those assertions. That’s how knowledge works! In fact, there is no evidence for your assertion.

What you said is the common faith-based professions Christians make. Your faith isn’t knowledge; your faith is ignorance pretending to be knowledge. You’re preaching a false Gospel. I don’t care what the Bible says. The Bible isn’t authoritative and unlike you, I can justify my statements.

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Reply #116 - Jul 9th, 2014 at 10:32am
 
All hail the Turritopsis Nutricula!


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Reply #117 - Jul 10th, 2014 at 7:02pm
 
I am a creationist. I believe man has created God
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