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Where's the double dissolution Tony?
Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:13pm

Tony Abbott promised us a double dissolution election.

When will he be calling it?

He has the trigger!

http://greensmps.org.au/content/media-releases/dd-trigger-ready-greens-save-cefc

he Australian Greens along with communities around Australia are celebrating the survival of the Clean Energy Finance Corporation, which Tony Abbott has now twice failed to abolish through the Parliament.

"The Senate won't stand for Tony Abbott's head-in-the-sand approach on global warming, and we're not afraid of a double dissolution election over renewable energy," said Greens Leader Senator Christine Milne.

"It's time for Mr Abbott to give up. The CEFC is an excellent institution that should stay.

"The CEFC is creating jobs in renewable energy and energy efficiency, reducing Australia's pollution and returning money to the budget. What's not to like?

"The Abbott government has admitted the CEFC is profitable, but they're so driven by ideology that they want to wipe their hands of it and sell it off. It's just further proof that there is no budget emergency.

"Tony Abbott is a ‘crash or crash through' Prime Minister, and he's set to crash over these attempts to undo Australia's action on global warming and undermine our core values with his brutal budget.

"It's now more clear than ever that this Prime Minister does not have the skills to negotiate with the cross bench in the Senate, so you can expect that huge parts of his agenda will be blocked.

"The Greens won't entertain any compromise on our values, so we are ready for an early election, if Tony Abbott has the ticker for it."

Does he have the ticker or is the real pm (Peta Credlin) worried that they will lose seats or even government?

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Where's the double dissolution Tony? Reply #1 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:29pm Get a job
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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Where's the double dissolution Tony? Reply #2 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:34pm Swagman wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:29pm: Get a job Smell the fear.
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King FriYAY II Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2109	Re: Where's the double dissolution Tony? Reply #3 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:41pm No way we will se a DD, not after "that" budget. And the Greens have to push for fresh elections because their power in the senate is about to erode.
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Where's the double dissolution Tony? Reply #4 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:45pm skippy. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:34pm: Swagman wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:29pm: Get a job Smell the fear. Yes the very mention of a job makes you comrades sweat fear.
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OldnCrusty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 855 Gender:	Re: Where's the double dissolution Tony? Reply #5 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:58pm King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:41pm: No way we will se a DD, not after "that" budget. The LNP will 'roll the leader' before they would 'roll the dice' May you live in interesting times.
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Re: Where's the double dissolution Tony?
Reply #6 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 1:17pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:13pm:

Tony Abbott promised us a double dissolution election.

When will he be calling it?

He has the trigger!

http://greensmps.org.au/content/media-releases/dd-trigger-ready-greens-save-cefc

he Australian Greens along with communities around Australia are celebrating the survival of the Clean Energy Finance Corporation, which Tony Abbott has now twice failed to abolish through the Parliament.

"The Senate won't stand for Tony Abbott's head-in-the-sand approach on global warming, and we're not afraid of a double dissolution election over renewable energy," said Greens Leader Senator Christine Milne.

"It's time for Mr Abbott to give up. The CEFC is an excellent institution that should stay.

"The CEFC is creating jobs in renewable energy and energy efficiency, reducing Australia's pollution and returning money to the budget. What's not to like?

"The Abbott government has admitted the CEFC is profitable, but they're so driven by ideology that they want to wipe their hands of it and sell it off. It's just further proof that there is no budget emergency.

"Tony Abbott is a ‘crash or crash through' Prime Minister, and he's set to crash over these attempts to undo Australia's action on global warming and undermine our core values with his brutal budget.

"It's now more clear than ever that this Prime Minister does not have the skills to negotiate with the cross bench in the Senate, so you can expect that huge parts of his agenda will be blocked.

"The Greens won't entertain any compromise on our values, so we are ready for an early election, if Tony Abbott has the ticker for it."

Does he have the ticker or is the real pm (Peta Credlin) worried that they will lose seats or even government?

No supply has been blocked. Off and racing a bit early!

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Where's the double dissolution Tony? Reply #7 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 1:24pm OldnCrusty wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:58pm: King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:41pm: No way we will se a DD, not after "that" budget. The LNP will 'roll the leader' before they would 'roll the dice' May you live in interesting times. Who's 'May'?
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John S Gold Member Offline Fascist Party = Liberal Party Posts: 3691 Gender:	Re: Where's the double dissolution Tony? Reply #8 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 1:43pm Swagman wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:29pm: Get a job Why don't you go and get a bloody job. You are on here all day ever day.
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Fit of Absent Mindeness Gold Member Offline We need more fits of absent mindedness Posts: 1622 Brisbane Gender:	Re: Where's the double dissolution Tony? Reply #9 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 2:08pm Swagman wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:29pm: Get a job I have a job - do you?
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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Where's the double dissolution Tony? Reply #10 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 2:11pm New senate in a matter of weeks. No government would ask for a DD at this point, nor would a sensible GG grant one. Keep your knickers on.
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Re: Where's the double dissolution Tony?
Reply #11 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 2:30pm

Swagman wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 1:24pm:

OldnCrusty wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:58pm:

King FriYAY II wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:41pm:

No way we will se a DD, not after "that" budget.

The LNP will 'roll the leader' before they would 'roll the dice' Wink

May you live in interesting times. Wink

Who's 'May'?

You probably don't know her, she's a seven year old with a few brains. Grin

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Re: Where's the double dissolution Tony?
Reply #12 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 2:58pm

skippy. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:34pm:

Swagman wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:29pm:

Get a job

Smell the fear.

Smell the stupidity. There's no trigger. Needs to have had the same legislation rejected twice, with at least three months passing between the first and second attempts to pass that legislation. Roll Eyes

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Re: Where's the double dissolution Tony?
Reply #13 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 4:28pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 2:58pm:

skippy. wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:34pm:

Swagman wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 12:29pm:

Get a job

Smell the fear.

Smell the stupidity. There's no trigger. Needs to have had the same legislation rejected twice, with at least three months passing between the first and second attempts to pass that legislation. Roll Eyes

Criteria has been satisfied to call a DD, although it won't happen in this case because:

A) Calling an election this close to a senate reshuffle is pretty much pointless a and would waste a lot of time and money
B) Any government polling as bad as the current one would have to be completely insane to risk it.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Re: Where's the double dissolution Tony?
Reply #14 - Jun 18^th, 2014 at 4:28pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 18^th, 2014 at 2:58pm:

Smell the stupidity. There's no trigger. Needs to have had the same legislation rejected twice, with at least three months passing between the first and second attempts to pass that legislation.

And it has descended into self flagellation Cheesy

Yes you are stupid & the bill has been rejected twice already.

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Labor and the Greens have challenged the government to call a double dissolution election after the Senate defeated a bill to abolish the Clean Energy Finance Corporation for a second time.

The Senate voted down the bill on Wednesday 35 votes to 28, with the opposition, Greens and Independent senator Nick Xenophon all opposed to the scrapping of the profitable $10 billion corporation, which invests in renewable energy technology.

Rejection of the bill for a second time sets up the government's first trigger for a double-dissolution election.

But Treasurer Joe Hockey has instead lashed out at Labor and the Greens for ''defying'' the judgment made by voters at the last election and said the government would introduce the repeal bill for a third time next week.

Greens Senator Scott Ludlam threw down the challenge in the Senate on Wednesday, calling on Prime Minister Tony Abbott to call an early election on climate change policy.

''Prime Minister Abbott if you really believe that this is absolute crap and that the Clean Energy Act is going to wipe Whyalla off the map, how’s that working out?'' he said.

''If you really believe that renewable energy can't deliver, then here is the double dissolution election trigger you’ve been waiting for.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/labor-greens-challenge-ton...

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Unlikely, unfortunately, given the mess this government has created.
- changes to how occupied territories are described
- unaffordable PPL scheme still going ahead
- new taxes after lying before the election that would not be any
- scholarships when none previously existed
- tin can NBN
- polls diving, leadership speculation
- billions to be spent on direct inaction
- wasted money on a royal commission into pink bats that produced nothing
- budget of despair
- falling consumer confidence
- economy now going backwards
- Iraq mess
- etc. etc.
As previously stated the LNP don't seem capable of moving out of opposition mode - nothing actually done after 9 months and how many reviews?

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He could have a Plebiscite over the ETS. Oh that's right, he called for one when in opposition stating " if the plebiscite doesn't go my way I reserve the right to ignor it". Just like he ignored Rudds 2007 mandate for his emissions trading scheme. I recall emailing Senator Abetz re ignoring the 2007 mandate and his response. " because we think its bad policy" So to all LNP supporters and members of parliament. Why should Labor not respect your alleged mandate. Well because Labor the Greens and many Australians think no ETS is bad Policy. Abbott will not call an election as sadly when the next Senate starts in July he had the Palmer Puppet Party to support the scrapping of the soon to be ETS as Palmer has vested interests in his Coal business not ensuring our grand kids futures. What the hell wwe will be dead by then not our problem. The current LNP are hypocrites. Respect our mandate they cry, respect the will of the Australian people they say, yet when in opposition failed to do so themselves.

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