it_is_the_light wrote on May 16^th, 2017 at 11:57pm:


Yet every time I address you claims you repost over and over the same bullshit again and again to bury my reply and you don't bother to acknowledge it or respond, yet you want me to waste more of my time on your further spam?

What right do you have to ask of me what you refuse to do in return?

Give and take requires give, not just take you know...

But really, your mind is made up on this subject, you're looking for petty wins to "prove" you're right but you're unable to substantiate your claims despite the ad nauseum reposting and claims of science.  So far, from what I have spent an undue time reading and watching as well as researching after the fact, you're full of nothing but poo.

You don't understand the scientific process, some of your sources are flat out scientifically illiterate yet you hold their claims, or mostly their questions "maybe this, maybe that, perhaps" as fact, and worst of all literally hide from questions yourself and have no idea what so ever what constitutes proof, facts or evidence.

There is no point in me continuing this dialogue with your because you claim a position of superiority but you offer nothing in terms of give and take.

I do what you ask, you run from it, bury it with spam, then when I refuse to play you game you accuse me of running away?

Well, if you must, through sheer spam and wearing me down until I don't care anymore, you have you victory.

Chemtrails are real, the science proves it and there is no such thing as pollen storms, those people had a bad reaction through chemtrailed cloud seeding of barium even though their symptoms don't match the miniscule amounts of barium that could be held in the clouds, you were right I was wrong.

Enjoy your hollow victory won through spam and lost interest rather than prosecuting and proving your case.

But as a conspiracy nut, that's all you need right?

Troll on my friend, troll on.

I eagerly await your crying memes or what ever other idiotic tactic you can think of to trick yourself into thinking you were right.

Namaste.

this is a bombshell connection that has been established here ..yet many refuse reality and continue the fake news narrative ..

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-23/thunderstorm-asthma-student-days-away-from...

'Thunderstorm asthma': Four people now believed dead, could have been more, minister says

Updated 23 Nov 2016, 5:10pm



A fourth death has been attributed to Melbourne's "thunderstorm asthma" emergency on Monday night, and it was lucky there were not more according to the state's Health Minister.

More than 2,000 people suffered breathing problems

when a severe storm combined with an extreme pollen count to cause what is being described as "thunderstorm asthma".

Hospitals were swamped with emergency patients, while firefighters and police were called on to help paramedics respond to thousands of calls after the conditions caused breathing problems for Victorians.

Jill Hennessy, the Health Minister, said it was like "a bomb going off", with all ambulances, police, fire and non-emergency transport being used to deal with the crisis.

"Our health system was stretched to the limit," she told 774 ABC Melbourne.

"We know that we've got some people in intensive care units as well.

"At one point we had 140 code one cases, while dealing with other patients, all of them were cardiac arrests or severe respiratory conditions."

Quote:

I THINK I KNOW WHY THEY ARE CHEM-TRAILING WITH BARIUM - EXPLAINED IN THE FIRST 7 MINUTES + MY PROOF

Published on Apr 26, 2017
I genuinely hope that this is a solid, well-rounded, rational explanation of what might be going on. Something possible that our community can build upon and progress with. A start toward understanding what is beyond our control. My focus is on Barium, but that is only the beginning.

-The cloud layer is highly reflective and refractive, creating the perfect barrier to keep out prying eyes, and to prevent certain communications.
-We don’t know what is going on with the sun, and this cloud layer is perfect to cloak this.
-To create ion traps by generating a cloud layer laced with Barium (possibly to deplete any unwanted gasses), send a Radio Frequency Wave through it, and harvest anti-protons for CERN’s quantum computer.

How we can know that Barium is being used:
-As chem-trails disperse, Barium filters down and people have been collecting the substance in their own backyards.
-It is not naturally occurring and must be manufactured, due to its highly reactive state.
-Barium is known to create the apple-green color in fireworks, and may well be the causation of green-colored fireballs.

-It attacks the nervous system, and is toxic. It does not bio-accumulate and can be relieved as it disperses and goes away, taking with it any strange symptoms. There are many other health problems (lungs, etc.).

-It is known to bleach, and could be the possible cause of faded signs and other structures.
-It facilitates the release of electrons from particles, which could be a cause of higher levels of radiation in our atmosphere.

All of these are a by-product of something else- the same way a pharmaceutical will have side-effects as it “fixes” the main problem. My guess is, we only know of the “side-effects” until now.

you think that repeating fake news gives you power

it has failed you for you are embroiled within an outdated fake news reality

you have rebutted nothing and the facts remain unmolested

you do not have to be here with your spam to say " oh I give up with you " .. the reason is your fake news narrative is blasted with truth and facts in which you cannot refute

and so it is yet keep on trucking though

namaste

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Also, the term “green propellant” is often confusing, as many assume a green propellant has no environmental impact. Such a propellant is generally beyond the realm of physical possibility. All propellants affect the environment in some way. For instance, all launch vehicles produce exhaust. The components of this exhaust can include soot, carbon dioxide, alumina, inorganic chlorine, water vapor, sulfates, and nitrogen oxides. All of these have an environmental impact, and may contribute to climate change, ozone destruction, or upper atmospheric contrails, depending on the atmospheric layer in which they are deposited; however, the severity and duration of the impact can vary greatly. Given this fact, a green propellant is more correctly viewed as one that seeks to minimize or eliminate a critical environmental impact in one or more of the four main areas. A green propellant is likely to have its own environmental impacts, which may be equal to the current technology in certain areas. For example, many green propellants seek to eliminate hydrazine because of its biologic impact, but they still present atmospheric or space-based effects. Aerospace.org 2011

Nano-particle Aluminum Steam

They are now using nano-particle aluminum to boil frozen water, putting it in ALICE rockets, and we have to consider the possibilities of this technology as it pertains to chemtrails:



Anthropogenic aluminum comes from rockets, very little comes from chemtrails if any, in my humble opinion.

Although rockets produce tons more aluminum than planes do, both are tiny compared to good ole dirt blowing up from the ground:

A LARGE SILICON-ALUMINUM AEROSOL PLUME IN CENTRAL ILLINOIS: NORTH AFRICAN DESERT DUST? 1995

During a summer atmospheric chemistry field project in central Illinois in 1979, unusually high concentration of Si, AI, and other earth’s crust elements were observed simultaneously in two series of 2-h aerosol samples collected at sites separated by about 20 km. The Si-A1 “event” persisted for about 32 h, and was accompanied by winds shifting from east through north as a weak low pressure area moved eastward across southeJrn Illinois, and a nearly stationary front moved back and forth across the study area. Comparison of aerosol Si/AI and Ca/A1 ratios during the event with those in possible sources showed that local soils, coal flyash, and A1 smelter emissions were unlikely sources of the observed plume, and focused the investigation on distant dust sources. Climatology favors north Africa over the western United States as a source of desert dust in summer.

Forty-eight hour back-trajectories from Illinois show flow from the Gulf of Mexico. Temperature and humidity soundings at Key West, Florida, three days before the onset of the dust plume in Illinois, showed a typical “Sahara air” profile, and simultaneous mineral dust measurements at Miami indicated a strong influx of North African dust at the same time. The evidence indicates that North African dust is the most likely source of the observed high concentrations of Si and AI in central Illinois in July 1979, and illustrates that long range transport can influence air quality at great distances from source a;~eas. Copyright © 1996 Elsevier Science Ltd

http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/users/jprospero/Publications/Gatz-Prospero_Afr%20dust%20Illinois_AtmosEnviron96.pdf

When jet aircraft switched from gasoline based fuel to kerosene (diesel) fuel the aluminum content of the fuels skyrocketed.  See this chart Trace Element and Polycyclic Aromatic  Hydrocarbon Analyses of Jet Engine Fuels: Jet A, JP5, and JP8:



Aluminum Jet Fuel Additives

Spray Visualization of Alternative Aviation Turbine Fuel embedded with Metallic Nanoparticles
Energetic Nanoparticles as Fuel Additives for Enhanced Performance in Propulsion Systems
Reduction of emissions and fuel consumption in a compression ignition engine using nanoparticles
Nanoparticles increase biofuel performance
Why add nanoparticles? The idea, says lead author R. B. Anand, an associate professor of mechanical engineering at the National Institute of Technology in Tiruchirappalli, India, is that because of their high surface-to-volume ratio, the nanoparticles—which, in the study, had an average diameter of 51 billionths of a meter—have more reactive surfaces, allowing them to act as more efficient chemical catalysts, thus increasing fuel combustion. The presence of the particles also increases fuel–air mixing in the fuel, which leads to more complete burning.

In the study, Anand and co-author J. Sadhik Basha first used a mechanical agitator to create an emulsion consisting of jatropha biodiesel (a fuel derived from the crushed seeds of the jatropha plant), water, and a surfactant, then blended in different proportions of alumina nanoparticles. In addition to outperforming regular biofuel, the nanoparticle-spiked fuels produced significantly lower quantities of nitrogen oxide and carbon monoxide gases, and created less smoke.

High resolution optical measurements were made of a series of high altitude barium releases at Eglin AFB during January 1971. Data was obtained on the individual cloud motions (ion and neutral), morphology, and fine structure striation development viewed up the geomagnetic field lines. http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/756938.pdf

January 1974, High-explosive shaped Barium charges pound ionosphere

Hollow conical liners of barium metal, detonated above 500-km altitude, jets of barium plasma with a range of initial velocity of 8 to 20 km/sec have been created. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/JA079i001p00159/abstract

And finally, just to prove my point:

July 1990 to September 1993, CRRES Ionospheric Modification and the Arecibo Heater




ProudKangaroo wrote on May 16^th, 2017 at 12:02pm:


this is not a rebuttal

you must address the science here or run away scared as you are



yet either way be at peace

namaste

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Wow in the time it took me to write that you spammed again the same 4 posts.  Bravo.

it_is_the_light wrote on May 17^th, 2017 at 1:34pm:


It's a shame, I thought you might actually read the post and respond for a change.  There were actually some facts in there that you ignored that debunk your link between chemtrails and the pollen storm, such as the levels of barium that you claim were seeded into the clouds via chemtrailing would have to be at a level to cause symptoms that would have been easily found via testing those who came in up to 4 weeks after the exposure, but instead more memes.

Well done.

If all you have as evidence is the lack of evidence you're in trouble there princess.

You ignored those facts again...

How cowardly.

You do every time what you accuse me of...  Pathetic.