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Reply #90 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:27pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 2:41pm:
My cousin for instance, has been in a happy same-sex relationship for 10 years, if his partner dies tomorrow without a will, he gets no legal recognition in terms of that will


So write a fuggin will. 

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Reply #91 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:54pm
 
... wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:27pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 2:41pm:
My cousin for instance, has been in a happy same-sex relationship for 10 years, if his partner dies tomorrow without a will, he gets no legal recognition in terms of that will


So write a fuggin will. 




Still I think my understanding is that it could be challenged by the family.
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Reply #92 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 4:06pm
 
http://www.tgb.com.au/blog/gay-and-lesbian-will-warning
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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #93 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 7:41pm
 
Verge wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 2:45pm:
Marriage should be between two consenting adults, regardless of sex.



The incest lobby has been making that very same point as well.
After all, there after there civil rights as well.
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Reply #94 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 7:50pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:54pm:
... wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:27pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 2:41pm:
My cousin for instance, has been in a happy same-sex relationship for 10 years, if his partner dies tomorrow without a will, he gets no legal recognition in terms of that will


So write a fuggin will. 




Still I think my understanding is that it could be challenged by the family.


The family can challenge the will of a married couple. Look at the Reinhardts.

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Reply #95 - Feb 24th, 2014 at 7:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 5:35pm:
Grendel wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 5:19pm:
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The way I see it, there's absolutely no reasonable, convincing argument to stop same sex couples from getting married.  Not one.  Not even a hint of one.
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Except to say that MARRIAGE is the union of a man and a woman.
So its completely reasonable to change that accepted meaning and the millenia of tradition that goes with it, etc...  I wonder how many years need to pass before it become a hint  Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy




Case in point.

Thanks for strengthening my argument.i

You have no point...  that's my point  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #96 - Mar 20th, 2014 at 8:14pm
 
Why gay activists are seen as utter, utter hypochrites:

If homophobia is a problem for bobsled, why is it OK for cricket?

World Cup and a tale of sporting double standards
Leo McKinstry 8 March 2014

Where are the threats of a boycott, the calls for isolation, the outraged letters to the Prime Minister? Where are the rainbow logos, the delegations of human rights activists, the declarations of solidarity? On 16 March Bangladesh is to host the T20 World Cup, one of the top limited overs tournaments in international cricket. All the top cricketing nations, including England, will participate. Yet the competition has not attracted so much as a bat squeak of protest from gay rights campaigners, despite the fact that Bangladesh has an appalling record of institutionalised discrimination against homosexuals. Indeed, same-sex activity remains a criminal offence in the country.
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The hypocrisy of the gay rights lobby on this issue can partly be explained by the ideology of political correctness, which means that, because of the guilt-tripping nostrums about western colonialism and racial victimhood, campaigners are terrified of confronting even rampant prejudice among non-white ethnic groups.  This is the same cowardly spirit that has led to the scandalous complacency in Britain about misogynistic practices like female genital mutilation, predatory grooming by urban gangs of Muslim men, or the spread of unofficial sharia courts. The double standards also reflect how the metropolitan left now views Russia and the Indian subcontinent. The former is seen as a right-wing, bastard-capitalist state run by gangsters and oligarchs, which deserves all the condemnation it receives. But the latter is regarded as a land of diversity, progress and inspiration, full of heroic masses whose only faults are the legacy of the British empire.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9152391/the-hypocrisy-game/

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Reply #97 - Mar 21st, 2014 at 9:30pm
 
Hey?!
Where are all the HHs?

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Reply #98 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 12:23am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:54pm:
... wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 3:27pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 24th, 2014 at 2:41pm:
My cousin for instance, has been in a happy same-sex relationship for 10 years, if his partner dies tomorrow without a will, he gets no legal recognition in terms of that will


So write a fuggin will. 




Still I think my understanding is that it could be challenged by the family.


Balls chat!

http://www.findlaw.com.au/articles/4290/how-are-same-sex-couples-recognised-in-a...

"Australia may not extend marriage and adoption rights to same-sex couples, however, under the numerous State and Federal laws,  a couple who is in a same-sex relationship for all intents and purposes have the same rights as those who are in a legally recognised marriage. Whether it is property, parental or estate rights, individuals whom are in a committed, intimate relationship are protected in Australian law."

ALSO (Sprache Zarathustra?  Wink)..  A family may challenge a will on a number of grounds - such as being left without a substantial base of support in life.  It depends on the relationship of a person to the deceased as to whether or not they can even make a claim, and there is a system of precedence.

Come on, guys - this is a specious argument that seeks to posit gays as 'victims' in some way when that is not the case.  A gay 'partner' (used with italics to differentiate from Wife and Husband etc) is equally entitled to make a claim and to have a will upheld depending on the overall facts at issue - OR to make a claim against an estate based on a long-term intimate relationship.

No legal difference there at all.
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Reply #99 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 1:34am
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:46pm:
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I simply face Reality, nothing more, nothing less!


Don't encourage them.
Where will such decadent lifestyles lead to?
- the moral fiber of society ruined.


Gay marriage is legal in NZ.

Admittedly I've only been back a short time, but the moral fibre of society seems unchanged from four years ago.
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