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Reply #225 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:32am
 


............Bush was an inside job of the 911 insiders..........
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Reply #228 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 1:14pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 9:29pm:
As for being called a nut job -

I think people who believe Govts. are nut jobs.
Why believe anyone who doesn't want to show you all the evidence?


They sound like either paid shills, or just trolling posters on a forum being insulting, than can’t accept the different POV and scream for personal attention as their way of trying to distract us away from the main issues we are discussing and/or trying to expose of it’s treachery and masterminded deceit behind it all tsk tsk.

I do look at links posted, by all, and you know what, I have even more suspicious questions. More later on that.

But in the meantime, how much was spent on the enquiry again, was it $600,000?? whilst $40million was spent on a stain on Monica Lewinsky’s dress?? Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Yes, we see where the importance truly is with this all in comparison aye?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

But that wasn’t the real reason to spend little on the 9/11 situation, the real reason/distraction (main directive) was to invade Afghanistan with the excuse to supposedly find Bin Laden, and I ask again, why are the yanks, (and our Oz troops,  dragged into this) still in Afghanistan? He’s long gone (Bin Laden) so what gives??????

They killed off the red herring, err, I mean Bin Laden, threw him into the sea (dispose of any DNA evidence mayhaps?), and, quite honestly, what point is there to keep staying in Afghan? It has been 12 years and 5 months now….how much longer, and for what reason?

Answer that.
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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #229 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 1:48pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:26am:
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:22am:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:03am:
You're just being a halfwit.

Analyze the facts.



I did and as I posted, your 'facts' are just lunatic conspiracy theories, even if they are on wiki, they are still lunatic conspiracy theories.


Here's a real fact, conspiracy theories are NOT 'facts'


Grin  Grin  Grin   Grin Grin Grin Grin




You didn't even bother to check out the Wikipedia links.

You're an intellectual nobody.




The links to your conspiracy theory 'facts'; umm no I didn't.  Grin  Grin


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$$$$$$ Follow the money $$$$$!


There needs to be an enquiry on how much money Larry Silverstein made out of 911.
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Reply #231 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:33pm
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 9:36am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:56am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:50am:
Yet you still don't explain how an intact passport of a supposed hijacker is found amongst the fire & wreckage at ground zero.

Voort as far as Physics go .... no building collapses in it's own footprint from a random act of violence .............

let alone 3 of them in one day.

You play the gullible nutjob to a tee.


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Doesn't need an explanation,  all sorts of weird events occur (and are found) after major aircraft crashes. Unbroken glasses,  children's dolls the only unburned thing pulled from the wreckage, undamaged spectacles, intact dentures etc, so an intact (or at least readable/recoverable) passport isn't all that surprising.


p.s That is providing the 'intact passport' thing even happened. After all most of the 'evidence' for the conspiracy seems to result from people taking bad acid trips.


Grin I'm afraid it does need explaining Gizmoid .......this wasn't your run of the mill plane crash. This plane crashed into & inside a building ..... with an intense fireball ...... this fuel fireball was so hot that it supposedly melted immense steel columns. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

That theory is proven false because steel melts at 2750 degrees & jet fuel burns at 1,400 degrees for only a brief time.

None the less if that passport was on said hijackers person & he was burned to ash ..... how did it survive that initial fireball & the subsequent blazes & collapse of the building?



The passport was found 2 blocks away on the ground before the towers collapsed,it was not subjected to the blazes and collapse of the buildings, it was from the first plane that hit the towers.
There were numerous other personal effects, body parts and plane parts found up to 5 blocks away, the nutjobs think all this stuff was planted.
Click on the links in this link-
www.911myths.com/index.php/Personal_Effects_and_the_Crash-Proof_Passport

The nutjobs insist the fire had to melt steel beams which shows their ignorance of basic metalwork.
Steel starts turning red around 500degC, it changes colour when heated-
navyaviation.tpub.com/14018/css/14018_663.htm

The modulus of elasticity or Young's modulus for steel is about 50% lower at 500 degC.
The modulus of elasticity tells you when the steel will go through inelastic deformations, the modulus of elasticity is lower than the Ultimate tensile or compressive strength, it is the stress level when things will not spring back to their original shape when the load is removed.
When you heat steel to 500deg c the modulus of elasticity is about 50% lower than say 20-30 deg c.
See figure 4 in this link-
www.academia.edu/346621/High-Temperature_Properties_of_Steel_for_Fire_Resistance...

The other factor the brainless nutjobs ignore is the effect of thermal expansion on steel when heated,thermal expansion can cause compressive stress levels to rise and there are many photos of train tracks permanently buckled due to thermal expansion before they realised they should put gaps in the tracks to allow for thermal expansion.
The fact these buckled track lines do not return to their original shape when cooled down shows the compressive stress levels have gone beyond the young's modulus , ie an inelastic deformation.
There are numerous cases of train tracks buckling from temperature changes without any additional heat or fires.
Of course the nutjobs are ignorant of the fact thermal expansion of the steel from fires did play a significant role in the collapse of buildings on 911.

I have studied engineering at university so i can comprehend the peer reviewed reports on what caused the buildings to collapse on 911.
The nutjobs would be lucky to have half a brain between the lot of them and are totally bugger%ing clueless about basic metalwork concepts.

The nutjobs have nothing but nutjob theories with no substance to back it up.

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Reply #232 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:42pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:33pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 9:36am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:56am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:50am:
Yet you still don't explain how an intact passport of a supposed hijacker is found amongst the fire & wreckage at ground zero.

Voort as far as Physics go .... no building collapses in it's own footprint from a random act of violence .............

let alone 3 of them in one day.

You play the gullible nutjob to a tee.


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Doesn't need an explanation,  all sorts of weird events occur (and are found) after major aircraft crashes. Unbroken glasses,  children's dolls the only unburned thing pulled from the wreckage, undamaged spectacles, intact dentures etc, so an intact (or at least readable/recoverable) passport isn't all that surprising.


p.s That is providing the 'intact passport' thing even happened. After all most of the 'evidence' for the conspiracy seems to result from people taking bad acid trips.


Grin I'm afraid it does need explaining Gizmoid .......this wasn't your run of the mill plane crash. This plane crashed into & inside a building ..... with an intense fireball ...... this fuel fireball was so hot that it supposedly melted immense steel columns. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

That theory is proven false because steel melts at 2750 degrees & jet fuel burns at 1,400 degrees for only a brief time.

None the less if that passport was on said hijackers person & he was burned to ash ..... how did it survive that initial fireball & the subsequent blazes & collapse of the building?



The passport was found 2 blocks away on the ground before the towers collapsed,it was not subjected to the blazes and collapse of the buildings, it was from the first plane that hit the towers.
There were numerous other personal effects, body parts and plane parts found up to 5 blocks away, the nutjobs think all this stuff was planted.
Click on the links in this link-
www.911myths.com/index.php/Personal_Effects_and_the_Crash-Proof_Passport

The nutjobs insist the fire had to melt steel beams which shows their ignorance of basic metalwork.
Steel starts turning red around 500degC, it changes colour when heated-
navyaviation.tpub.com/14018/css/14018_663.htm

The modulus of elasticity or Young's modulus for steel is about 50% lower at 500 degC.
The modulus of elasticity tells you when the steel will go through inelastic deformations, the modulus of elasticity is lower than the Ultimate tensile or compressive strength, it is the stress level when things will not spring back to their original shape when the load is removed.
When you heat steel to 500deg c the modulus of elasticity is about 50% lower than say 20-30 deg c.
See figure 4 in this link-
www.academia.edu/346621/High-Temperature_Properties_of_Steel_for_Fire_Resistance...

The other factor the brainless nutjobs ignore is the effect of thermal expansion on steel when heated,thermal expansion can cause compressive stress levels to rise and there are many photos of train tracks permanently buckled due to thermal expansion before they realised they should put gaps in the tracks to allow for thermal expansion.
The fact these buckled track lines do not return to their original shape when cooled down shows the compressive stress levels have gone beyond the young's modulus , ie an inelastic deformation.
There are numerous cases of train tracks buckling from temperature changes without any additional heat or fires.
Of course the nutjobs are ignorant of the fact thermal expansion of the steel from fires did play a significant role in the collapse of buildings on 911.

I have studied engineering at university so i can comprehend the peer reviewed reports on what caused the buildings to collapse on 911.
The nutjobs would be lucky to have half a brain between the lot of them and are totally bugger%ing clueless about basic metalwork concepts.

The nutjobs have nothing but nutjob theories with no substance to back it up.



You obviously didn't complete your studies because you would have learned that hydrocarbon fuel fires (oxygen starved as evidenced by black smoke) don't produce high enough temperature to melt steel. Why was molten steel running down the sides of the building and why did it remain molten in the ground for months afterward.

Its pretty obvious why you didn't finish your studies.

The only steel building in the world to have "purportedly" collapsed due to fire.
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Reply #233 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:52pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:42pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:33pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 9:36am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:56am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:50am:
Yet you still don't explain how an intact passport of a supposed hijacker is found amongst the fire & wreckage at ground zero.

Voort as far as Physics go .... no building collapses in it's own footprint from a random act of violence .............

let alone 3 of them in one day.

You play the gullible nutjob to a tee.


Quote:
Doesn't need an explanation,  all sorts of weird events occur (and are found) after major aircraft crashes. Unbroken glasses,  children's dolls the only unburned thing pulled from the wreckage, undamaged spectacles, intact dentures etc, so an intact (or at least readable/recoverable) passport isn't all that surprising.


p.s That is providing the 'intact passport' thing even happened. After all most of the 'evidence' for the conspiracy seems to result from people taking bad acid trips.


Grin I'm afraid it does need explaining Gizmoid .......this wasn't your run of the mill plane crash. This plane crashed into & inside a building ..... with an intense fireball ...... this fuel fireball was so hot that it supposedly melted immense steel columns. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

That theory is proven false because steel melts at 2750 degrees & jet fuel burns at 1,400 degrees for only a brief time.

None the less if that passport was on said hijackers person & he was burned to ash ..... how did it survive that initial fireball & the subsequent blazes & collapse of the building?



The passport was found 2 blocks away on the ground before the towers collapsed,it was not subjected to the blazes and collapse of the buildings, it was from the first plane that hit the towers.
There were numerous other personal effects, body parts and plane parts found up to 5 blocks away, the nutjobs think all this stuff was planted.
Click on the links in this link-
www.911myths.com/index.php/Personal_Effects_and_the_Crash-Proof_Passport

The nutjobs insist the fire had to melt steel beams which shows their ignorance of basic metalwork.
Steel starts turning red around 500degC, it changes colour when heated-
navyaviation.tpub.com/14018/css/14018_663.htm

The modulus of elasticity or Young's modulus for steel is about 50% lower at 500 degC.
The modulus of elasticity tells you when the steel will go through inelastic deformations, the modulus of elasticity is lower than the Ultimate tensile or compressive strength, it is the stress level when things will not spring back to their original shape when the load is removed.
When you heat steel to 500deg c the modulus of elasticity is about 50% lower than say 20-30 deg c.
See figure 4 in this link-
www.academia.edu/346621/High-Temperature_Properties_of_Steel_for_Fire_Resistance...

The other factor the brainless nutjobs ignore is the effect of thermal expansion on steel when heated,thermal expansion can cause compressive stress levels to rise and there are many photos of train tracks permanently buckled due to thermal expansion before they realised they should put gaps in the tracks to allow for thermal expansion.
The fact these buckled track lines do not return to their original shape when cooled down shows the compressive stress levels have gone beyond the young's modulus , ie an inelastic deformation.
There are numerous cases of train tracks buckling from temperature changes without any additional heat or fires.
Of course the nutjobs are ignorant of the fact thermal expansion of the steel from fires did play a significant role in the collapse of buildings on 911.

I have studied engineering at university so i can comprehend the peer reviewed reports on what caused the buildings to collapse on 911.
The nutjobs would be lucky to have half a brain between the lot of them and are totally bugger%ing clueless about basic metalwork concepts.

The nutjobs have nothing but nutjob theories with no substance to back it up.



You obviously didn't complete your studies because you would have learned that hydrocarbon fuel fires (oxygen starved as evidenced by black smoke) don't produce high enough temperature to melt steel. Why was molten steel running down the sides of the building and why did it remain molten in the ground for months afterward.

Its pretty obvious why you didn't finish your studies.

The only steel building in the world to have "purportedly" collapsed due to fire.


It's pretty obvious you are a mentally retarded nutjob.
Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm

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Reply #234 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:59pm
 
Sophia wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 1:14pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 9:29pm:
As for being called a nut job -

I think people who believe Govts. are nut jobs.
Why believe anyone who doesn't want to show you all the evidence?


They sound like either paid shills, or just trolling posters on a forum being insulting, than can’t accept the different POV and scream for personal attention as their way of trying to distract us away from the main issues we are discussing and/or trying to expose of it’s treachery and masterminded deceit behind it all tsk tsk.

I do look at links posted, by all, and you know what, I have even more suspicious questions. More later on that.

But in the meantime, how much was spent on the enquiry again, was it $600,000?? whilst $40million was spent on a stain on Monica Lewinsky’s dress?? Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Yes, we see where the importance truly is with this all in comparison aye?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

But that wasn’t the real reason to spend little on the 9/11 situation, the real reason/distraction (main directive) was to invade Afghanistan with the excuse to supposedly find Bin Laden, and I ask again, why are the yanks, (and our Oz troops,  dragged into this) still in Afghanistan? He’s long gone (Bin Laden) so what gives??????

They killed off the red herring, err, I mean Bin Laden, threw him into the sea (dispose of any DNA evidence mayhaps?), and, quite honestly, what point is there to keep staying in Afghan? It has been 12 years and 5 months now….how much longer, and for what reason?

Answer that.




You really need to reinforce that foil hat and refill your underpants with a couple of extra cans of baked beans; it's like your are child lashing out in frustration to a world that doesn't makes sense to your limited understanding of it.


Even the slightest research on non conspiracy lunatic sites would answer most if not all of your petulant questions. But you have to be vastly less paranoid of non-conspiracy sites.


Good luck with that.



Conspiracy loons are funny because they are frightened of everything and too stupid realise it.  Grin  Grin  Grin





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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #235 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 3:05pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:08pm:
$$$$$$ Follow the money $$$$$!


There needs to be an enquiry on how much money Larry Silverstein made out of 911.


no where near as much money as you seem to think.

Silverstein had to take the insurance companies to court at least twice to get the money out of them, and he still had to pay out $10 million per month rent on the Trade Centre site (yes even while it was in ruins)
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Reply #236 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 3:12pm
 
Has anyone found the Weapons of Mass Deception yet ?

Is anyone still looking for them ? We were told that we would find them eventually Cheesy LOL

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Reply #237 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 3:13pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:52pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:42pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:33pm:
Gnads wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 9:36am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:56am:
Gnads wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:50am:
Yet you still don't explain how an intact passport of a supposed hijacker is found amongst the fire & wreckage at ground zero.

Voort as far as Physics go .... no building collapses in it's own footprint from a random act of violence .............

let alone 3 of them in one day.

You play the gullible nutjob to a tee.


Quote:
Doesn't need an explanation,  all sorts of weird events occur (and are found) after major aircraft crashes. Unbroken glasses,  children's dolls the only unburned thing pulled from the wreckage, undamaged spectacles, intact dentures etc, so an intact (or at least readable/recoverable) passport isn't all that surprising.


p.s That is providing the 'intact passport' thing even happened. After all most of the 'evidence' for the conspiracy seems to result from people taking bad acid trips.


Grin I'm afraid it does need explaining Gizmoid .......this wasn't your run of the mill plane crash. This plane crashed into & inside a building ..... with an intense fireball ...... this fuel fireball was so hot that it supposedly melted immense steel columns. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

That theory is proven false because steel melts at 2750 degrees & jet fuel burns at 1,400 degrees for only a brief time.

None the less if that passport was on said hijackers person & he was burned to ash ..... how did it survive that initial fireball & the subsequent blazes & collapse of the building?



The passport was found 2 blocks away on the ground before the towers collapsed,it was not subjected to the blazes and collapse of the buildings, it was from the first plane that hit the towers.
There were numerous other personal effects, body parts and plane parts found up to 5 blocks away, the nutjobs think all this stuff was planted.
Click on the links in this link-
www.911myths.com/index.php/Personal_Effects_and_the_Crash-Proof_Passport

The nutjobs insist the fire had to melt steel beams which shows their ignorance of basic metalwork.
Steel starts turning red around 500degC, it changes colour when heated-
navyaviation.tpub.com/14018/css/14018_663.htm

The modulus of elasticity or Young's modulus for steel is about 50% lower at 500 degC.
The modulus of elasticity tells you when the steel will go through inelastic deformations, the modulus of elasticity is lower than the Ultimate tensile or compressive strength, it is the stress level when things will not spring back to their original shape when the load is removed.
When you heat steel to 500deg c the modulus of elasticity is about 50% lower than say 20-30 deg c.
See figure 4 in this link-
www.academia.edu/346621/High-Temperature_Properties_of_Steel_for_Fire_Resistance...

The other factor the brainless nutjobs ignore is the effect of thermal expansion on steel when heated,thermal expansion can cause compressive stress levels to rise and there are many photos of train tracks permanently buckled due to thermal expansion before they realised they should put gaps in the tracks to allow for thermal expansion.
The fact these buckled track lines do not return to their original shape when cooled down shows the compressive stress levels have gone beyond the young's modulus , ie an inelastic deformation.
There are numerous cases of train tracks buckling from temperature changes without any additional heat or fires.
Of course the nutjobs are ignorant of the fact thermal expansion of the steel from fires did play a significant role in the collapse of buildings on 911.

I have studied engineering at university so i can comprehend the peer reviewed reports on what caused the buildings to collapse on 911.
The nutjobs would be lucky to have half a brain between the lot of them and are totally bugger%ing clueless about basic metalwork concepts.

The nutjobs have nothing but nutjob theories with no substance to back it up.



You obviously didn't complete your studies because you would have learned that hydrocarbon fuel fires (oxygen starved as evidenced by black smoke) don't produce high enough temperature to melt steel. Why was molten steel running down the sides of the building and why did it remain molten in the ground for months afterward.

Its pretty obvious why you didn't finish your studies.

The only steel building in the world to have "purportedly" collapsed due to fire.


It's pretty obvious you are a mentally retarded nutjob.
Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm



Molten aluminium doesn't maintain an exothermic reaction for 3 months underground especially as you claim it cooled down and turned grey on the way down.

911 three buildings purportedly collapsing by fire when there has never previously and since been a steel building collapse from fire and probably never will be.

Building 7 wasn't even hit and purportedly had just office furniture low intensity fires.

Follow the money to find the perpetrators.
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Reply #238 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 3:14pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 3:05pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:08pm:
$$$$$$ Follow the money $$$$$!


There needs to be an enquiry on how much money Larry Silverstein made out of 911.


no where near as much money as you seem to think.

Silverstein had to take the insurance companies to court at least twice to get the money out of them, and he still had to pay out $10 million per month rent on the Trade Centre site (yes even while it was in ruins)


Yes but he had building 7 pulled in a nice demolition fashion. Not bad for a days work Cheesy LOL
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Reply #239 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 3:15pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 3:14pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 3:05pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:08pm:
$$$$$$ Follow the money $$$$$!


There needs to be an enquiry on how much money Larry Silverstein made out of 911.


no where near as much money as you seem to think.

Silverstein had to take the insurance companies to court at least twice to get the money out of them, and he still had to pay out $10 million per month rent on the Trade Centre site (yes even while it was in ruins)


Yes but he had building 7 pulled in a nice demolition fashion. Not bad for a days work Cheesy LOL


Not in the real world he didn't nails..
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