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Reply #195 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 8:59am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 8:16am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 9:39pm:

How could anyone who even looked like this get on a plane?
He looks like a psychopathic terrorist.
I bet he would never have been allowed on an El Al airline.

Muhammad Atta

http://www.nndb.com/people/780/000028696/atta-80.jpg

http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/A/Mohamed-Att...

He probably got on because he had a ticket. Remember Bobby, there wasn't a 'no fly' list BEFORE 9/11, and there hadn't been a hijacking of a domestic US flight in decades.

many blessings ,

any ' no fly list ' is a metaphore for

' show me your papers ' so yes

this has been done before ...

now you see a pimped out carbon copy

this remains exposed and seen

for what it truly is

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Reply #197 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 9:36am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 8:56am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 8:50am:

Yet you still don't explain how an intact passport of a supposed hijacker is found amongst the fire & wreckage at ground zero.

Voort as far as Physics go .... no building collapses in it's own footprint from a random act of violence .............

let alone 3 of them in one day.

You play the gullible nutjob to a tee.

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Doesn't need an explanation, all sorts of weird events occur (and are found) after major aircraft crashes. Unbroken glasses, children's dolls the only unburned thing pulled from the wreckage, undamaged spectacles, intact dentures etc, so an intact (or at least readable/recoverable) passport isn't all that surprising.

p.s That is providing the 'intact passport' thing even happened. After all most of the 'evidence' for the conspiracy seems to result from people taking bad acid trips.

I'm afraid it does need explaining Gizmoid .......this wasn't your run of the mill plane crash. This plane crashed into & inside a building ..... with an intense fireball ...... this fuel fireball was so hot that it supposedly melted immense steel columns. Roll Eyes

That theory is proven false because steel melts at 2750 degrees & jet fuel burns at 1,400 degrees for only a brief time.

None the less if that passport was on said hijackers person & he was burned to ash ..... how did it survive that initial fireball & the subsequent blazes & collapse of the building?

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Reply #198 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 9:46am

Gnads wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 9:36am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 8:56am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 8:50am:

Yet you still don't explain how an intact passport of a supposed hijacker is found amongst the fire & wreckage at ground zero.

Voort as far as Physics go .... no building collapses in it's own footprint from a random act of violence .............

let alone 3 of them in one day.

You play the gullible nutjob to a tee.

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Doesn't need an explanation, all sorts of weird events occur (and are found) after major aircraft crashes. Unbroken glasses, children's dolls the only unburned thing pulled from the wreckage, undamaged spectacles, intact dentures etc, so an intact (or at least readable/recoverable) passport isn't all that surprising.

p.s That is providing the 'intact passport' thing even happened. After all most of the 'evidence' for the conspiracy seems to result from people taking bad acid trips.

I'm afraid it does need explaining Gizmoid .......this wasn't your run of the mill plane crash. This plane crashed into & inside a building ..... with an intense fireball ...... this fuel fireball was so hot that it supposedly melted immense steel columns. Roll Eyes

That theory is proven false because steel melts at 2750 degrees & jet fuel burns at 1,400 degrees for only a brief time.

None the less if that passport was on said hijackers person & he was burned to ash ..... how did it survive that initial fireball & the subsequent blazes & collapse of the building?

Isn't it remotely possible that someone flushed it down the toilet before impact? Shocked

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Reply #199 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 9:55am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 8:16am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 9:39pm:

How could anyone who even looked like this get on a plane?
He looks like a psychopathic terrorist.
I bet he would never have been allowed on an El Al airline.

Muhammad Atta

http://www.nndb.com/people/780/000028696/atta-80.jpg

He probably got on because he had a ticket. Remember Bobby, there wasn't a 'no fly' list BEFORE 9/11, and there hadn't been a hijacking of a domestic US flight in decades.

El Al is an entirely different kettle of fish. They have been under the threat of hijacking and/or attack for most of the airlines existence.

Sure Gizmo,
El Al also had locked cabins from as far back as the 70s.

They didn't lock the cabins with re-inforced doors until after 911 on the world's aircraft.

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Reply #200 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 9:58am

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 9:46am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 9:36am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 8:56am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 8:50am:

Yet you still don't explain how an intact passport of a supposed hijacker is found amongst the fire & wreckage at ground zero.

Voort as far as Physics go .... no building collapses in it's own footprint from a random act of violence .............

let alone 3 of them in one day.

You play the gullible nutjob to a tee.

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Doesn't need an explanation, all sorts of weird events occur (and are found) after major aircraft crashes. Unbroken glasses, children's dolls the only unburned thing pulled from the wreckage, undamaged spectacles, intact dentures etc, so an intact (or at least readable/recoverable) passport isn't all that surprising.

p.s That is providing the 'intact passport' thing even happened. After all most of the 'evidence' for the conspiracy seems to result from people taking bad acid trips.

I'm afraid it does need explaining Gizmoid .......this wasn't your run of the mill plane crash. This plane crashed into & inside a building ..... with an intense fireball ...... this fuel fireball was so hot that it supposedly melted immense steel columns. Roll Eyes

That theory is proven false because steel melts at 2750 degrees & jet fuel burns at 1,400 degrees for only a brief time.

None the less if that passport was on said hijackers person & he was burned to ash ..... how did it survive that initial fireball & the subsequent blazes & collapse of the building?

Isn't it remotely possible that someone flushed it down the toilet before impact? Shocked

Are you serious? Grin

He was flying the plane ..... & anyway if it was in the toilet it would have more likely to have been destroyed by the chemical first .... before the fires.

Or are you suggesting ... the toilet was found intact & they fished out out of there? Grin

PMSL .......... it gets better all the time.

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Reply #201 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:07am

Gnads wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 9:58am:

Winston Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 9:46am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 9:36am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 8:56am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 8:50am:

Yet you still don't explain how an intact passport of a supposed hijacker is found amongst the fire & wreckage at ground zero.

Voort as far as Physics go .... no building collapses in it's own footprint from a random act of violence .............

let alone 3 of them in one day.

You play the gullible nutjob to a tee.

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Doesn't need an explanation, all sorts of weird events occur (and are found) after major aircraft crashes. Unbroken glasses, children's dolls the only unburned thing pulled from the wreckage, undamaged spectacles, intact dentures etc, so an intact (or at least readable/recoverable) passport isn't all that surprising.

p.s That is providing the 'intact passport' thing even happened. After all most of the 'evidence' for the conspiracy seems to result from people taking bad acid trips.

I'm afraid it does need explaining Gizmoid .......this wasn't your run of the mill plane crash. This plane crashed into & inside a building ..... with an intense fireball ...... this fuel fireball was so hot that it supposedly melted immense steel columns. Roll Eyes

That theory is proven false because steel melts at 2750 degrees & jet fuel burns at 1,400 degrees for only a brief time.

None the less if that passport was on said hijackers person & he was burned to ash ..... how did it survive that initial fireball & the subsequent blazes & collapse of the building?

Isn't it remotely possible that someone flushed it down the toilet before impact? Shocked

Are you serious? Grin

He was flying the plane ..... & anyway if it was in the toilet it would have more likely to have been destroyed by the chemical first .... before the fires.

Or are you suggesting ... the toilet was found intact & they fished out out of there? Grin

PMSL .......... it gets better all the time.

I'm no expert on aircraft toilets, but are a set of circumstances where a passport was jetissoned prior to impact entirely inconcievable, if highly improbable?

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Reply #202 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:11am

Gnads wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 9:36am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 8:56am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 8:50am:

Yet you still don't explain how an intact passport of a supposed hijacker is found amongst the fire & wreckage at ground zero.

Voort as far as Physics go .... no building collapses in it's own footprint from a random act of violence .............

let alone 3 of them in one day.

You play the gullible nutjob to a tee.

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Doesn't need an explanation, all sorts of weird events occur (and are found) after major aircraft crashes. Unbroken glasses, children's dolls the only unburned thing pulled from the wreckage, undamaged spectacles, intact dentures etc, so an intact (or at least readable/recoverable) passport isn't all that surprising.

p.s That is providing the 'intact passport' thing even happened. After all most of the 'evidence' for the conspiracy seems to result from people taking bad acid trips.

I'm afraid it does need explaining Gizmoid .......this wasn't your run of the mill plane crash. This plane crashed into & inside a building ..... with an intense fireball ...... this fuel fireball was so hot that it supposedly melted immense steel columns. Roll Eyes

That theory is proven false because steel melts at 2750 degrees & jet fuel burns at 1,400 degrees for only a brief time.

None the less if that passport was on said hijackers person & he was burned to ash ..... how did it survive that initial fireball & the subsequent blazes & collapse of the building?

Like i said, IF it happened as you say it did (the 'intact passport')
Now, was it intact, as in undamaged and still readable, or was intact as in there was enough of the microchip or barcode (depending on which the US uses) that enough of the encoded information could be recovered to allow it to be conclusively linked to a passport on the airport/airline records?

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Reply #203 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:27am

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 11:01pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 10:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 10:52pm:

Yes Nail,
propaganda cartoons which were a complete fantasy but used to justify war.

No doubt Baronvonrort and the rest of the rusted on liberal voters believed it all just because George told them so Cheesy

LOL

I am not rusted on to any party, i vote for the party that deals with the issues that concern me.

You are a pathetic pissant who cannot afford a house or electric car, you cry about corporate welfare then whinge when foreign owned companies pull out because they no longer get corporate welfare.

Well it must all be true because George said so Cheesy

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Reply #204 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:36am

Gnads wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 9:36am:

I'm afraid it does need explaining Gizmoid .......this wasn't your run of the mill plane crash. This plane crashed into & inside a building ..... with an intense fireball ...... this fuel fireball was so hot that it supposedly melted immense steel columns. Roll Eyes

That theory is proven false because steel melts at 2750 degrees & jet fuel burns at 1,400 degrees for only a brief time.

None the less if that passport was on said hijackers person & he was burned to ash ..... how did it survive that initial fireball & the subsequent blazes & collapse of the building?

As far as Im aware no-one has ever said the steel column were "melted", except conspiracy loons looking from under their foil hats, the steel columns were weakened and compromised and that occurs at 800C give or take a few degrees.

So not really a debunk theory now is it?

As for your singular fixation of some friggen passport, not really a 'smoking gun' for a government conspiracy now is it; let is go, like you conspiracy beliefs, it's irrelevant.

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Reply #205 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:39am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:11am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 9:36am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 8:56am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 8:50am:

Yet you still don't explain how an intact passport of a supposed hijacker is found amongst the fire & wreckage at ground zero.

Voort as far as Physics go .... no building collapses in it's own footprint from a random act of violence .............

let alone 3 of them in one day.

You play the gullible nutjob to a tee.

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Doesn't need an explanation, all sorts of weird events occur (and are found) after major aircraft crashes. Unbroken glasses, children's dolls the only unburned thing pulled from the wreckage, undamaged spectacles, intact dentures etc, so an intact (or at least readable/recoverable) passport isn't all that surprising.

p.s That is providing the 'intact passport' thing even happened. After all most of the 'evidence' for the conspiracy seems to result from people taking bad acid trips.

I'm afraid it does need explaining Gizmoid .......this wasn't your run of the mill plane crash. This plane crashed into & inside a building ..... with an intense fireball ...... this fuel fireball was so hot that it supposedly melted immense steel columns. Roll Eyes

That theory is proven false because steel melts at 2750 degrees & jet fuel burns at 1,400 degrees for only a brief time.

None the less if that passport was on said hijackers person & he was burned to ash ..... how did it survive that initial fireball & the subsequent blazes & collapse of the building?

Like i said, IF it happened as you say it did (the 'intact passport')
Now, was it intact, as in undamaged and still readable, or was intact as in there was enough of the microchip or barcode (depending on which the US uses) that enough of the encoded information could be recovered to allow it to be conclusively linked to a passport on the airport/airline records?

Do you ever watch Aircrash Investigations ?

The NTSB usually takes months or years to investigate one aircraft disaster !!

Now George and co started carting off all of the evidence to the rubbish tip a couple of weeks after it happened and then claimed to know all about what happened !! Go figure !!

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Reply #206 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:40am

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2014 at 5:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 21^st, 2014 at 6:56pm:

Forget the insults folks -
look at the facts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks_advance-knowledge_conspiracy_t...

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Some of these warnings include the following:

March 2001 – Italian intelligence warns of an al-Qaeda plot in the United States involving a massive strike involving aircraft, based on their wiretap of al-Qaeda cell in Milan.

July 2001 – Jordanian intelligence told US officials that al-Qaeda was planning an attack on American soil, and Egyptian intelligence warned the CIA that 20 al-Qaeda Jihadists were in the United States, and that four of them were receiving flight training.

August 2001 – The Israeli Mossad gives the CIA a list of 19 terrorists living in the US and say that they appear to be planning to carry out an attack in the near future.

August 2001 – The United Kingdom is warned three times of an imminent al-Qaeda attack in the United States, the third specifying multiple airplane hijackings. According to the Sunday Herald, the report is passed on to President Bush a short time later.

September 2001 – Egyptian intelligence warns American officials that al-Qaeda is in the advanced stages of executing a significant operation against an American target, probably within the US.

If these facts were wrong someone would have the Wikipedia page changed.

They are not actually 'facts' they are conspiracy theories by nutbag conspiracy theorists, the friggen title is the give-away here. Grin

Bush knew the attacks were about to happen.

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Reply #207 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:41am

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:36am:

Gnads wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 9:36am:

I'm afraid it does need explaining Gizmoid .......this wasn't your run of the mill plane crash. This plane crashed into & inside a building ..... with an intense fireball ...... this fuel fireball was so hot that it supposedly melted immense steel columns. Roll Eyes

That theory is proven false because steel melts at 2750 degrees & jet fuel burns at 1,400 degrees for only a brief time.

None the less if that passport was on said hijackers person & he was burned to ash ..... how did it survive that initial fireball & the subsequent blazes & collapse of the building?

As far as Im aware no-one has ever said the steel column were "melted", except conspiracy loons looking from under their foil hats, the steel columns were weakened and compromised and that occurs at 800C give or take a few degrees.

So not really a debunk theory now is it?

As for your singular fixation of some friggen passport, not really a 'smoking gun' for a government conspiracy now is it; let is go, like you conspiracy beliefs, it's irrelevant.

Does that apply to building 7 as well which wasn't touched by the planes ?

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Reply #209 - Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:50am

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:47am:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2014 at 10:40am:

Bush knew the attacks were about to happen.

Because a conspiracy loon says so?

A conspiracy loon is not usually a good point for factual evidence; but if he can put it on youtube, you and that idiot nails will accept it unconditionally as fact.

Grin

The quotes were from Wikipedia -
now wash your mouth out with soap & water.

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