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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #165 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 12:15pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 12:06pm:
Sophia wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 11:43am:
http://www.truthin7minutes.com/september-11-hoax-the-truth-about-the-911-hoax/

Go down to 'evening news' and see the difference of live footage, on the lhs, and what the news on tv showed on the rhs.
Now discuss that scene and the changes made therein  Shocked

And then have a look at the next video further down...

(titled) Smoking gun #2 - the infamous "zoom in" shot



The problem with these videos here:



is that they use jpeg compression algorithms which do something to moving objects.
The video is unreliable as moving objects get treated differently to stationary in order to reduce the file size.
Without knowing exactly what compression algorithm was used - in the original frames -
it is impossible to make any truthful
statements relating to it.

None of the videos on youtube ever discuss this compression problem.


the right wing doesn't disappear at all so what you are saying is not correct. It looks like a fake video because i doubt a handycam would be as clear and steady as that.
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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #166 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 12:18pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 12:15pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 12:06pm:
Sophia wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 11:43am:
http://www.truthin7minutes.com/september-11-hoax-the-truth-about-the-911-hoax/

Go down to 'evening news' and see the difference of live footage, on the lhs, and what the news on tv showed on the rhs.
Now discuss that scene and the changes made therein  Shocked

And then have a look at the next video further down...

(titled) Smoking gun #2 - the infamous "zoom in" shot



The problem with these videos here:



is that they use jpeg compression algorithms which do something to moving objects.
The video is unreliable as moving objects get treated differently to stationary in order to reduce the file size.
Without knowing exactly what compression algorithm was used - in the original frames -
it is impossible to make any truthful
statements relating to it.

None of the videos on youtube ever discuss this compression problem.


the right wing doesn't disappear at all so what you are saying is not correct. It looks like a fake video because i doubt a handycam would be as clear and steady as that.



Hi Nail,
without knowing all about the compression algorithm in the camera we can make no findings.
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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #167 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 12:25pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 12:18pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 12:15pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 12:06pm:
Sophia wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 11:43am:
http://www.truthin7minutes.com/september-11-hoax-the-truth-about-the-911-hoax/

Go down to 'evening news' and see the difference of live footage, on the lhs, and what the news on tv showed on the rhs.
Now discuss that scene and the changes made therein  Shocked

And then have a look at the next video further down...

(titled) Smoking gun #2 - the infamous "zoom in" shot



The problem with these videos here:



is that they use jpeg compression algorithms which do something to moving objects.
The video is unreliable as moving objects get treated differently to stationary in order to reduce the file size.
Without knowing exactly what compression algorithm was used - in the original frames -
it is impossible to make any truthful
statements relating to it.

None of the videos on youtube ever discuss this compression problem.


the right wing doesn't disappear at all so what you are saying is not correct. It looks like a fake video because i doubt a handycam would be as clear and steady as that.



Hi Nail,
without knowing all about the compression algorithm in the camera we can make no findings.


Well here are some more explanations

http://www.truthin7minutes.com/flight-175-rare-video/?PC=flight-175-explanation

Where is the blur of the plane ? Looks fake to me !!

And btw video cameras usually use MPEG and not JPEG to store the images.


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Reply #168 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 5:35pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 7:48pm:
There were light poles knocked out of the ground before the plane hit the Pentagon.
The plane hit these poles with port and starboard wings.

Can the nutjobs who claim it was a missile that hit the pentagon provide a link that proves missiles can zig zag to knock down these light poles?

There is no mechanism on a missile that would allow it to fly the zig zag path required to knock down these light poles, would impacting the light poles detonate a missile.

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ignorance upon the detonated lightpoles

set up to fall as the missile left its imprint here

http://www.answering-christianity.com/no_jumbo_jet_hit_pentagon.jpg


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still does not explain building 7

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Building 7 has been explained, the nutjobs ignore everything that does not conform to the nutjob theory.

A decoy plane knocked down the lightpoles...lmfao at the idiocy of the nutjobs. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


The nutjob lunatics are defying physics again with their nutjob theory. Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Shocked
Newton's 3rd law- for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, this means whatever force was needed to knock down these lightpoles was also applied to the plane as a equal force in the opposite direction.
The nutjobs say the starboard wing knocked down these poles.. Grin Grin Grin Grin
The NTSB has a huge database of planes crashing shortly after hitting power poles and even power lines, the nutjobs claim this decoy plane is the only plane to survive an impact with poles. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Shocked
So what were these wings made from was it some special material called unobtainium?
I have studied Aeronautical engineering and there are no planes around that can withstand the impact from one lightpole without serious damage let alone multiple impacts with lightpoles, the NTSB has a huge database of plane crashes that resulted from impacting light poles.


A tomahawk missile is less than 2ft in diameter and about 18ft long, they are only fired from ships and subs, are the nutjobs suggesting the navy was involved, did they screen everyone to make sure there were no democRATS involved?
The entry hole looks a bit big for a tomahawk which could fit through a window, are the tomahawks designed to penetrate before exploding?
Your map shows where the nutjobs claim the tomahawk was about 1 second before impact, a tomahawk is subsonic so the nutjobs have exposed their idiocy on this one, was this a super dooper tomahawk that could go supersonic?
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Shocked
Missile bow shockwave? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin,Tomahawks are subsonic there is no bow shockwave.

If you look at the pictures there are bits of the plane on the lawn that were probably ripped off when the plane hit the light poles which is what you would expect with Newton's 3rd law.
911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagon


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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #169 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 5:38pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 11:10am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 7:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 7:10pm:
As for Building 7:
It was at least very strange how it appeared to fall exactly
as in a controlled demolition.

That is not proof of any conspiracy.
Stranger things have happened.


The Pentagon:
There was a wrong type of engine found and very little else.
What happened to all the debris?
How come the hole in the wall was so small?
The planes that hit the towers cut right through with their wings leaving giant holes.
Once again - it's not proof of any conspiracy apart from that of the hijackers.



The nutjobs are moving onto the Pentagon....

There were light poles knocked out of the ground before the plane hit the Pentagon.
The plane hit these poles with port and starboard wings.

Can the nutjobs who claim it was a missile that hit the pentagon provide a link that proves missiles can zig zag to knock down these light poles?

There is no mechanism on a missile that would allow it to fly the zig zag path required to knock down these light poles, would impacting the light poles detonate a missile.

Security cameras are not high speed slow motion cameras, how many frames per second does a 10 year old security camera record at and what resolution are these pictures?
At 500 knots a plane is travelling 255 meters per second i doubt our speed or red light cameras can get something going that fast.


A remote piloted plane could do that too and they have had that technology for years. Can we see the other footage that has been confiscated ?


Can you cite any aircraft that have not crashed after impacting a light/power pole or even power lines?
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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #170 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 5:48pm
 
The list of nutjobs in this forum-
Bobbythedingbat
theLastnail, bobby's bum chum
Laugh till you cry
lols
The light is on but nobody is home.

debunking911.com
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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #171 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 5:57pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 6:56pm:
Forget the insults folks -
look at the facts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks_advance-knowledge_conspiracy_t...


Quote:
Some of these warnings include the following:

    March 2001 – Italian intelligence warns of an al-Qaeda plot in the United States involving a massive strike involving aircraft, based on their wiretap of al-Qaeda cell in Milan.

    July 2001 – Jordanian intelligence told US officials that al-Qaeda was planning an attack on American soil, and Egyptian intelligence warned the CIA that 20 al-Qaeda Jihadists were in the United States, and that four of them were receiving flight training.

    August 2001 – The Israeli Mossad gives the CIA a list of 19 terrorists living in the US and say that they appear to be planning to carry out an attack in the near future.

    August 2001 – The United Kingdom is warned three times of an imminent al-Qaeda attack in the United States, the third specifying multiple airplane hijackings. According to the Sunday Herald, the report is passed on to President Bush a short time later.

    September 2001 – Egyptian intelligence warns American officials that al-Qaeda is in the advanced stages of executing a significant operation against an American target, probably within the US.



If these facts were wrong someone would have the Wikipedia page changed.




They are not actually 'facts' they are conspiracy theories by nutbag conspiracy theorists, the friggen title is the  give-away here.  Grin  Grin  Grin




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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #172 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 6:11pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 5:48pm:
The list of nutjobs in this forum-
Bobbythedingbat
theLastnail, bobby's bum chum
Laugh till you cry
lols
The light is on but nobody is home.

debunking911.com


Yep, I mentioned on the other 9/11 thread that such threads are useful for pointing out posters who struggle with reality and rational thought.
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Reply #173 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 6:19pm
 
Yet none of you sane people seem to be able to answer the simplest of questions ....... how did the terrorist Pilots passport/document survive the impact/ fires & the fires at ground zero .... intact?

That simple little thing alone makes all of your logic & debunking the biggest load of bunk.

And to those who poohoo youtube video & comment as lies & manipulation on the internet ........

it needs to be asked....... what are you doing on the internet?

Furthering the lies & manipulation?
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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #174 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 6:48pm
 
Datalife wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 6:11pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 5:48pm:
The list of nutjobs in this forum-
Bobbythedingbat
theLastnail, bobby's bum chum
Laugh till you cry
lols
The light is on but nobody is home.

debunking911.com


Yep, I mentioned on the other 9/11 thread that such threads are useful for pointing out posters who struggle with reality and rational thought. 

Ooooooooooooooh, they also seem equally useful for pointing out internet tryhard fascists!
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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #175 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 6:50pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 7:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 21st, 2014 at 7:10pm:
As for Building 7:
It was at least very strange how it appeared to fall exactly
as in a controlled demolition.

That is not proof of any conspiracy.
Stranger things have happened.


The Pentagon:
There was a wrong type of engine found and very little else.
What happened to all the debris?
How come the hole in the wall was so small?
The planes that hit the towers cut right through with their wings leaving giant holes.
Once again - it's not proof of any conspiracy apart from that of the hijackers.



and what happened to all of the CCTV videos from the neighbouring petrol station and hotel ?

Can we have a look at them and not the CGI version that looks like a blur ?

Yeh, i too would have expected more footage of the events in question.. i don't think I'm alone on that- well,..... obviously not!  Cool
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Reply #176 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 6:52pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 12:06pm:
Sophia wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 11:43am:
http://www.truthin7minutes.com/september-11-hoax-the-truth-about-the-911-hoax/

Go down to 'evening news' and see the difference of live footage, on the lhs, and what the news on tv showed on the rhs.
Now discuss that scene and the changes made therein  Shocked

And then have a look at the next video further down...

(titled) Smoking gun #2 - the infamous "zoom in" shot



The problem with these videos here:



is that they use jpeg compression algorithms which do something to moving objects.
The video is unreliable as moving objects get treated differently to stationary in order to reduce the file size.
Without knowing exactly what compression algorithm was used - in the original frames -
it is impossible to make any truthful
statements relating to it.

None of the videos on youtube ever discuss this compression problem.

A fact trail = good good good good,.. good good good!!  Wink
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Re: 911 was an inside job by Bush insiders
Reply #177 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 7:54pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 12:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 12:18pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 12:15pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 12:06pm:
Sophia wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 11:43am:
http://www.truthin7minutes.com/september-11-hoax-the-truth-about-the-911-hoax/

Go down to 'evening news' and see the difference of live footage, on the lhs, and what the news on tv showed on the rhs.
Now discuss that scene and the changes made therein  Shocked

And then have a look at the next video further down...

(titled) Smoking gun #2 - the infamous "zoom in" shot



The problem with these videos here:



is that they use jpeg compression algorithms which do something to moving objects.
The video is unreliable as moving objects get treated differently to stationary in order to reduce the file size.
Without knowing exactly what compression algorithm was used - in the original frames -
it is impossible to make any truthful
statements relating to it.

None of the videos on youtube ever discuss this compression problem.


the right wing doesn't disappear at all so what you are saying is not correct. It looks like a fake video because i doubt a handycam would be as clear and steady as that.



Hi Nail,
without knowing all about the compression algorithm in the camera we can make no findings.


Well here are some more explanations

http://www.truthin7minutes.com/flight-175-rare-video/?PC=flight-175-explanation

Where is the blur of the plane ? Looks fake to me !!

And btw video cameras usually use MPEG and not JPEG to store the images.




Lots of videos showing these planes impacting the wtc towers, the various news reporters on the scene as well as home videos, they all show the same thing.

They even found plane parts on the street up to 6 blocks away and on the roofs of other buildings.

Must have been a heck of a job planting all those parts with nobody noticing.

Fukn dopey nutjobs.. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Roll Eyes
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Reply #178 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 8:17pm
 
Gnads wrote on Feb 22nd, 2014 at 6:19pm:
Yet none of you sane people seem to be able to answer the simplest of questions ....... how did the terrorist Pilots passport/document survive the impact/ fires & the fires at ground zero .... intact?

That simple little thing alone makes all of your logic & debunking the biggest load of bunk.

And to those who poohoo youtube video & comment as lies & manipulation on the internet ........

it needs to be asked....... what are you doing on the internet?

Furthering the lies & manipulation?


I should have added gnads to the list of nutjobs.

Do the  nutjobs think this passport was the only personal effect to survive the crashes on 911?

What about all the other personal effects from  passengers that were found on the streets up to 6 blocks away, someone found the flight manifest from one of the flights on the street before the towers collapsed, are they saying all these personal effects and bodyparts found on the streets from passengers were planted as well?

They found flammable plane parts in the street up to 6 blocks away and on the roofs of buildings,they found bodyparts in the street,do the nutjobs  claim these were planted?
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Lips Sealed

So what are you nutjobs doing on the internet, do you have any real evidence, do you have a life?

The majority of the nutjobs are leftists who have buzzwords  along with one liners and no real substance so they are easily debunked.

The nutjobs cant even get the name of the hijacker on the passport right,his name was on the planes manifest so did they really need his name in a passport for evidence when the airline had his name listed, what did this passport prove was it really needed for evidence?

I dont expect the nutjobs to click on this link they prefer to ignore everything that debunks their idiotic bullsh1t.
www.911myths.com/index.php/Personal_Effects_and_the_Crash-Proof_Passport





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