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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Indonesia demands change to Australian policy Reply #15 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 7:16am You understand the word precedent right? My point is why not simply adopt the same military policy as the US and Israel?
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Re: Indonesia demands change to Australian policy
Reply #16 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 7:18am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 7:16am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 7:04am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 6:52am:

Abbott is a genius to trick Indonesia into patrolling their own waters. They will have the obligation of picking up boats in destress and now we can push them to stop the boats.

+1000

They may provide fuel to Australian boats coming in and turn them around ???

Again we see weak disloyal Australians more than happy to push the blame for Indonesian weaselism on to their own government. Labrats you are a total disgrace to your country. God help this place if your duplicitous incompetent idols return to office, the country will be economically stuffed, more so than it was when the present government was elected to office, and which they have been forced to waste valuable resources on trying to return this place to viability.

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Re: Indonesia demands change to Australian policy
Reply #17 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 8:13am

viewpoint wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 7:18am:

Again we see weak disloyal Australians more than happy to push the blame for Indonesian weaselism on to their own government.

after 6 yrs of watching you do it, you want to now complain? Shocked

where was your loyalty to the ALP when they were in govt? It didn't matter what the cause, the first thig you did was blame labor ... I'll bet if you had to chose between supporting Bin Laden or Gillard, your choice would still have been Bin Laden .. Cheesy

the hypocrisy Roll Eyes

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Re: Indonesia demands change to Australian policy
Reply #18 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 8:18am

cods wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 6:19am:

tell then to SUCK IT UP.....what a bunch of kids.. people drowning on their watch as they are watching them leave their shores..

if they are watching our Navy then they cannot but fail to see whats leaving their own waters....

we are contending with enormous bush fires..

tell them to pick up their dummy and go and do what they should have been doing for years...watching their own coastline ...if these people are smuggling people out... you can bet they are smuggling people and other things in... Roll Eyes

What a different and fascinating world you live in???

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Re: Indonesia demands change to Australian policy
Reply #19 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 8:32am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 6:33am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 6:28am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 6:24am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 6:22am:

We can be their enemy for a couple of years, Labor will patch things up when they get back in.

You mean patch things up like when Abbott had to deal with Rudd's spying on Indonesia?

Exactly, but Abbott failed with that patch, probably because Johnny spied first so he had nowhere to go.

No, it was Rudd who initiated that spying. Also, Abbott did not fail. At an operational level between our military heads, the relationship was unchanged and their military head actually agreed with us and not his political masters. It's an election year for Indonesia - you can expect a lot more rhetoric from their politicians about these kinds of issues now.

Even Downer admitted Australia has spied on other countries for years. Being a patsy for the government makes you look even dumber than you are,if that's possible.
Anyways Indonesia have every right to protect their waters The fact they have deployed a frigate when they start shooting at us it's phoney Tony's fault if Aussie sailors lose their life.

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Re: Indonesia demands change to Australian policy
Reply #20 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 8:34am

viewpoint wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 7:18am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 7:16am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 7:04am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 6:52am:

Abbott is a genius to trick Indonesia into patrolling their own waters. They will have the obligation of picking up boats in destress and now we can push them to stop the boats.

+1000

They may provide fuel to Australian boats coming in and turn them around ???

Again we see weak disloyal Australians more than happy to push the blame for Indonesian weaselism on to their own government. Labrats you are a total disgrace to your country. God help this place if your duplicitous incompetent idols return to office, the country will be economically stuffed, more so than it was when the present government was elected to office, and which they have been forced to waste valuable resources on trying to return this place to viability.

For me it isn't about what Indonesia either do or don't do.

It is what Australia does.

For me deliberately breaching our agreements and illegally entering the waters of a foreign nation is unacceptable.

I expect Australian governments to act honestly , with integrity and legally.

I can except that you think this standard is too high.

I would be critical of a Labor government behaving is the same manor.

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Indonesia demands change to Australian policy Reply #21 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 8:43am Imagine the outrage of the conga line had it been revealed it was Indonesia invading Australian waters on a regular basis?
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Re: Indonesia demands change to Australian policy
Reply #22 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 8:48am

Dnarever wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 8:34am:

viewpoint wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 7:18am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 7:16am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 7:04am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 6:52am:

Abbott is a genius to trick Indonesia into patrolling their own waters. They will have the obligation of picking up boats in destress and now we can push them to stop the boats.

+1000

They may provide fuel to Australian boats coming in and turn them around ???

Again we see weak disloyal Australians more than happy to push the blame for Indonesian weaselism on to their own government. Labrats you are a total disgrace to your country. God help this place if your duplicitous incompetent idols return to office, the country will be economically stuffed, more so than it was when the present government was elected to office, and which they have been forced to waste valuable resources on trying to return this place to viability.

For me it isn't about what Indonesia either do or don't do.

It is what Australia does.

For me deliberately breaching our agreements and illegally entering the waters of a foreign nation is unacceptable.

I expect Australian governments to act honestly , with integrity and legally.

I can except that you think this standard is too high.

I would be critical of a Labor government behaving is the same manor.

For me deliberately breaching our agreements and illegally entering the waters of a foreign nation is unacceptable.

So now it was DELIBERATE YOU TWAT Angry

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woody2014 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2044 NTH EAST VIC Gender:	Re: Indonesia demands change to Australian policy Reply #23 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 8:50am skippy. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 8:43am: Imagine the outrage of the conga line had it been revealed it was Indonesia invading Australian waters on a regular basis? INVADING F F S YOU HILL BILLY
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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Indonesia demands change to Australian policy Reply #24 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 8:59am Aren't both of the above posts pure abuse, mods?
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woody2014 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2044 NTH EAST VIC Gender:	Re: Indonesia demands change to Australian policy Reply #25 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 9:02am skippy. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 8:59am: Aren't both of the above posts pure abuse, mods? BUT TRUE YOU HILL BILLY
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Re: Indonesia demands change to Australian policy
Reply #26 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 9:14am

skippy. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 8:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 6:33am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 6:28am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 6:24am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 6:22am:

We can be their enemy for a couple of years, Labor will patch things up when they get back in.

You mean patch things up like when Abbott had to deal with Rudd's spying on Indonesia?

Exactly, but Abbott failed with that patch, probably because Johnny spied first so he had nowhere to go.

No, it was Rudd who initiated that spying. Also, Abbott did not fail. At an operational level between our military heads, the relationship was unchanged and their military head actually agreed with us and not his political masters. It's an election year for Indonesia - you can expect a lot more rhetoric from their politicians about these kinds of issues now.

Even Downer admitted Australia has spied on other countries for years. Being a patsy for the government makes you look even dumber than you are,if that's possible.
Anyways Indonesia have every right to protect their waters The fact they have deployed a frigate when they start shooting at us it's phoney Tony's fault if Aussie sailors lose their life.

Other countries - yes. He did not specify which countries. As for the Indons protecting their waters, we aren't exactly invading. All we're doing is returning Indonesian-flagged vessels back to Indonesian waters after denying them access to our waters, as is our right. If you really think an Indonesian ship would attack a RAN vessel, you're out of your mind.

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Re: Indonesia demands change to Australian policy
Reply #27 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 9:16am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 9:14am:

All we're doing is returning Indonesian-flagged vessels back to Indonesian waters after denying them access to our waters, as is our right.

Well seeing as this whole issue arose from one of our vessels going into their territory, this is clearly NOT all we're doing.

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Indonesia demands change to Australian policy Reply #28 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 9:22am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 7:16am: You understand the word precedent right? My point is why not simply adopt the same military policy as the US and Israel? Good idea Sherloch! let's start a war.
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Re: Indonesia demands change to Australian policy
Reply #29 - Jan 18^th, 2014 at 9:22am

Stratos wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 9:16am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 18^th, 2014 at 9:14am:

All we're doing is returning Indonesian-flagged vessels back to Indonesian waters after denying them access to our waters, as is our right.

Well seeing as this whole issue arose from one of our vessels going into their territory, this is clearly NOT all we're doing.

So what are we DOING ????????????????

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