Mortdooley wrote on Aug 17^th, 2015 at 1:07pm:




No, just making the assumption about compensatory mechanisms

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 17^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:



2 problems

1. Freud never said this 


From Wikiquote
It is a paraphrase of a statement from the essay "Guns, Murders, and the Constitution" (February 1990) by Don B. Kates, Jr. where Kates summarizes his views of passages in Dreams in Folklore (1958) by Freud and David E. Oppenheim, while disputing statements by Emmanuel Tanay in "Neurotic Attachment to Guns" in a 1976 edition of The Fifty Minute Hour: A Collection of True Psychoanalytic Tales (1955) by Robert Mitchell Lindner:
Dr. Tanay is perhaps unaware of — in any event, he does not cite — other passages more relevant to his argument. In these other passages Freud associates retarded sexual and emotional development not with gun ownership, but with fear and loathing of weapons. The probative importance that ought to be attached to the views of Freud is, of course, a matter of opinion. The point here is only that those views provide no support for the penis theory of gun ownership.
Due to misreading of this essay and its citations, this paraphrase of an opinion about Freud's ideas has been wrongly attributed to Freud himself, and specifically to his 10th Lecture "Symbolism in Dreams" in General Introduction to Psychoanalysis on some internet forum pages: alt.quotations, uk.politics.guns, talk.politics.guns, can.talk.guns , etc.
One of the statements by Freud which Kates summarized from in Dreams in Folklore (1958), p. 33, reads: "The representation of the penis as a weapon, cutting knife, dagger etc., is familiar to us from the anxiety dreams of abstinent women in particular and also lies at the root of numerous phobias in neurotic people."


2. I don't fear weapons, I only fear the types of idiots who think its necessary to own them.

https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen/

I know you will think this is just NRA propaganda but these incidents are collected from real police reports. The idiots are the unarmed victims that reach room temperature before the Police arrive. 

Growing up in a culture where self defense is illegal must prepare you to hope for the best but submit to crime when it finds you.

There was a good parody site with instructions for your survival but now it is only in archives.

https://web.archive.org/web/20010410025737/http://www.handguncontrolinc.org/sniv...

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 11:09pm:


Really, I have already had that discussion here and that is not the story I was told. If you fight back you are considered to have accepted the challenge and you can be prosecuted for any harm you cause your attacker.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 18^th, 2015 at 11:53pm:


So correct me..........if I'm wrong. 

Government has the right to tell me how I can defend my life, & with what I can defend my life, or the lives of my family, or the lives of my friends.

Government has the right to say I don't have the right to defend or protect lives with a firearm......specifically with a pistol, why, because that pistol might jump out of my hand, run up to a psycho, put the psycho in a trance, then force that psycho to pick it up, & then by it's overwhelming powers of suggestion, make that psycho become a mass murderer?   

Done laughing?

Now, that's just plain stupid,,,,,,,,,,,,,Right?

Is it any more stupid than government having the right to tell anyone how they can defend & protect their life with in the first place? 



Am I missing something....I certainly hope so, but if I am, where??

Panther wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 9:47am:




Well the problem has been excessive force.

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 19^th, 2015 at 8:58pm:


That's Work Safe for you!!

Panther wrote on Aug 20^th, 2015 at 1:35pm:


I'd be happy that he just has a knife, and not a gun.

As someone who has been on the wrong side of a gun multiple times, I assure you, Im much happier if they have knife.
Of course, they wont have a knife if its easy to get a gun......