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Reply #1770 - Jul 5th, 2015 at 8:37pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 5th, 2015 at 12:47pm:
I do not need to prove anything, Emma.   You and your compatriots do, as you are making the claim.  I require PROOF, Emma, not claims.

Get back to us when you have the proof.  Otherwise, stop spreading porkie-pies.    Roll Eyes

NO BR. You are the one making erroneous claims as to our rights. YOU need to support your claims. YOU need to show the legislation that proves your point, not I.
YOU are the one telling the lies. I KNOW I am correct, through personal experience. YOU only have an opinion. Stop being such a slimebag and stand up and SHOW ME . I'd love to hear something from you other than supposition and opinion.

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Reply #1771 - Jul 5th, 2015 at 9:09pm
 
BR I expect you to back YOUR claims. As far as I can recall, you have never proven your posts by referencing legislation. Not once. BUT YOU expect everyone else to.
Apply that rule you have to yourself.

Big talk, but no content. Put it up. I challenge you to prove your position. Baron has been very informative. All you do is throw a hissy-fit, when asked to do the same. You resort to  personal attacks, (subtle but clear)  and nothing else. A hollow man.

I don't pretend to have stats at my fingertips. Unlike yourself, whose self-serving proclamations have never been substantiated, even tho you want everyone else to.
Pitiful performance.

See?  I can do that too.!! .
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Reply #1772 - Jul 5th, 2015 at 11:50pm
 
I do not need to prove anything, Emma.   You and your compatriots do, as you are making the claim.  I require PROOF, Emma, not claims.

Get back to us when you have the proof.  Otherwise, stop spreading porkie-pies.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #1773 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 12:28am
 
BS BR
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Reply #1774 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 9:28am
 
Regardless of what side of any argument you are on everyone that makes a statement, in order to be considered as fact, need to be prepared to support their claims with some sort of validation outside of just saying it's so.

If you have a link, to support your case, by all means publish it.

If you know you've read it or even experienced it first hand, but can't exactly say where or prove how, then say so, & the court of public opinion will either accept it or reject it based upon your track record of credibility.

If your track record is piss-poor, well you best find some corroborating evidence of your claims, otherwise your arguments wont be taken seriously.....& so they shouldn't......they will fall flat on their face.

On the other hand, some may still doubt you, but if your credibility track record is trustworthy, & you aren't one for making outlandish unsubstantiated claims, then most will probably take you seriously, with credibility intact, & believed.

Either way, if you are going to make statements of supposed facts, it's best to produce links or other substantiating evidence to buttress your claims if called upon to do so, if for no other reason than to bolster your own good credibility whether you think it's needed or not.

➤ ➤  In the end beware of those continually demanding evidence from others, for it's usually a smokescreen, a dodge,  for covering up the fact that they actually lack evidence for their positions themselves, or even worse, to coverup for their own  falsehoods (the L word).  Wink



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Reply #1775 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 10:58am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 4:02pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 3:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 3:44pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 3:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 3:24pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 3:12pm:
Women are not allowed to carry anything for self defence in Australia, the police say to obey your attacker so he doesn't hurt you.


Please quote in the Legislation where that is stated, Baron.   Roll Eyes


Please cite the legislation that makes it lawful to carry knives,pepper spray or batons bwian


If you cannot quote what you claim, Baron that makes it a what?  I won't use the word "lie" 'cause that's too easy.  How about a non-truthful statement based upon ignorance?   Roll Eyes


I have cited the legislation before bwian,go back about 50 pages and you will find it.


Really?  Where?  Provide a link, Baron...   Roll Eyes

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How many times do I have to cite it for dim wits like you,i can see why nobody bothers with your crappy forum hence your trolling here.



Ah, yes the usual resort to ad hominem debate when you're cornered.  You really are so predictable, Baron.    Roll Eyes


Go back and read the thread bwian I have cited this before,i cannot help the fact you are a retarded troll.

A hint- Weapons prohibition act 1998.

You remind me of another forum owning loser who trolled this forum because nobody went to his forum,what is it with these forum owning losers who have to troll other forums to feed their internet addictions.
ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1348565349/0
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Reply #1776 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 11:12am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 4:05pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 3:49pm:
The Firearms registry which the police administer should have the permission to shoot form for that property filed away somewhere bwian.


Which was not available immediately, NOW, to the Police on the ground, Baron.   Perhaps you'd like to see several millions of dollars providing a link to the database?  Oh, that's right it needs to be kept up to date, doesn't it?  So a few millions more then?    Roll Eyes
We have over 90 full time Police administering the firearms registry in NSW bwian,what would the wages bill be for over  90 people earning over $50k a year to administer this registry.
Surely the firearm registry could notify police there is permission to shoot from licence firearm owners at that property like the do in NSW.



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The police could have checked the firearms registry they administer to see if they have the documents giving permission to shoot from the owner.


Perhaps they should but they had reports of firearms being discharged NOW, Baron.  What should they do NOW?    Roll Eyes
The same thing they did in NSW with a friend of mine who had a city person buy the property next door as a weekender and reported him for shooting,the details came up there was licensed firearm owners and the police approved his property for shooting,they called him on the phone and asked they did not send polair and the tactical response group.
They did turn up to tell his neighbour he was doing something 100% legal therefore they could do nothing,my friend told his new neighbour he has been warned about his dog chasing his cows next time he will shoot it on sight.


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The police have to approve every property with permission to shoot, there is a 40 acre minimum in Qld.

What is the point of having all this information in the firearms registry if the police don't even look at it,is this an example f the failure of the firearms registry.

They should sue for wrongful arrest


They should accept the Polices' apology and get on with their lives and just put it down to life's experience.     Roll Eyes

They should sue to make an example of these people for wrongful arrest.

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Reply #1777 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 11:13am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 4th, 2015 at 1:50pm:
Australian law requires people to be defenceless,you are not allowed to have weapons for self defence.

Senator Leyonhjelm is a lawyer,a vet and a farmer-


Senator Leyonhjelm is a lawyer and a politician he should understand our laws.

What does the weapons prohibition act 1998 say does it back the good senator?
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Reply #1778 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 8:00pm
 
I wonder Baron would you have liked all the Muslims in Bosnia to have their own personal firearms when the Serbs tried to exterminate them?   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin

What about you Emma, you think all women should be able to kill their rapist boyfriends/husbands/sons, before they start raping?    Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

What about you Mort, you think that everybody should be able kill anybody with impunity as long as they claim, "he looked funny at me!"???   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

What a bunch of tools you all are.   I suspect you'd be the first ones the criminals would kill.    Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #1779 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 8:34pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 8:00pm:
I wonder Baron would you have liked all the Muslims in Bosnia to have their own personal firearms when the Serbs tried to exterminate them?   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin


Trolling again HB, I guess nobody posts at brians forum so you have to come here with your nonsense.

The Bosnian war criminal Naser Oric started the conflict with the Serbs then claimed they were victims when the Serbs fought back.
google.com.au/?gsw_rd=ssl#q=naser+oric+war+criminal

A Bosnian Jihad nasheed video for you HB, it has references to the war they started a few Allahu akbars and English subtitles so you can understand what you support.

Catchy tune do you like it HB?




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Reply #1780 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 11:51pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 10:58am:
Go back and read the thread bwian I have cited this before,i cannot help the fact you are a retarded troll.

A hint- Weapons prohibition act 1998.


I've read it and no where does it state that you cannot have a weapon for self-defence, Baron.   It lists in Schedule One a series of weapon types that you cannot own BUT that does not include ALL weapons, now does it, Baron?  You are fixated on guns.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #1781 - Jul 7th, 2015 at 12:38am
 
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What about you Mort, you think that everybody should be able kill anybody with impunity as long as they claim, "he looked funny at me!"???   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin


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Reply #1782 - Jul 7th, 2015 at 10:03am
 
Hello Foul Breath, I see you have decided to troll on by. It seems you have come by to misrepresent anything I have ever posted here. That is all the response you deserve and my stalker is just someone to ignore!
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Reply #1783 - Jul 7th, 2015 at 12:28pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 11:51pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 6th, 2015 at 10:58am:
Go back and read the thread bwian I have cited this before,i cannot help the fact you are a retarded troll.

A hint- Weapons prohibition act 1998.


I've read it and no where does it state that you cannot have a weapon for self-defence, Baron.   It lists in Schedule One a series of weapon types that you cannot own


You can own those weapons with a prohibited weapons permit, you cannot use them for self defence.
Did you read division 2 permit scheme 11 genuine reason did that outlaw personal protection as a genuine reason for these weapons?

I see why nobody bothers with your forum bwian you cannot comprehend what you read.
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Reply #1784 - Jul 7th, 2015 at 1:01pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 12:28pm:
You can own those weapons with a prohibited weapons permit, you cannot use them for self defence.
Did you read division 2 permit scheme 11 genuine reason did that outlaw personal protection as a genuine reason for these weapons?


Based on what you've said there, Baron, I'd say the truer position is that you cannot own those weapons for the purpose of self defence. But, if the situation came up -- I'd say you'd be quite entitled to so use them.

Let's explore another analogy -- you don't have (say) a bowling ball for the purposes of self defence. However, should the need arise, you're quite allowed to defend yourself with it and strike* your attacker. Same for your beloved firearms.

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