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Re: ASIO actions against islamic security concerns
Reply #15 - Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:04am
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 2nd, 2014 at 11:56pm:
OK, so lets think critically.  Lets look at the evidence that wearing hats leads to Jihad, which is what you are currently claiming.


Thank you for so convincingly confirming my my estimation of your participation in this forum, while relieving me of feeling any need to waste any more time with you.
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Reply #16 - Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:06am
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 2nd, 2014 at 11:56pm:
I'm sure you will come up with some excuse as to why there is none or try the change the subject.

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:04am:
Thank you for confirming my my estimation of your performance in here while relieving me of feeling any need to waste any more time with you.


Called it
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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #17 - Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:08am
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:06am:
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:04am:
Thank you for confirming my my estimation of your performance in here while relieving me of feeling any need to waste any more time with you.


Called it


Thank you! I did indeed!
So why are you so afraid to admit you are a Muslim anyway? Too embarrassed?
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Reply #18 - Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:10am
 
Your evidence to support I am a Muslim is as nonexistent as your evidence that hats lead to Jihad.
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Reply #19 - Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:17am
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:10am:
Your evidence to support I am a Muslim is as nonexistent as your evidence that hats lead to Jihad.


I don't have any evidence, other than your being perhaps the greatest champion for Muhammadanism, in this forum.
I was simply trying to solicit an honest admission from you. And I didn't notice a denial.

But then since for a Muslim to lie about being a Muslim, and deny it, is of course the most universally accepted form of taqiyyah, or lying in the way of Muhammad's alter-ego "Allah" anyway.
So it would be moot to ask such a question of a Muslim.
Though lying of all kinds is so acceptable throughout the Islamic world today, it really doesn't lend itself to categorization.
falseprophetmuhammad.com/global_war_against_truth.htm#taqiyyah
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Reply #20 - Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:26am
 
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:17am:
I don't have any evidence, other than your being perhaps the greatest champion for Muhammadanism, in this forum.


Right, so your opinion is formed based on no evidence.  I see.  I have never defended extremism by the way, and you search through my entire history if you like.

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:17am:
And I didn't notice a denial.


posted yesterday that I am an agnostic.  Not exactly a denial, but enough to know I'm not a Muslim.

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:17am:
But then since for a Muslim to lie about being a Muslim, and denying it, is of course the most universally accepted form of taqiyyah


Have a look at the Koran passages that the concept of taqiyya is derived from and you will see a very different picture.  It is about hiding your faith to save your skin, and your claim that it is the most universally accepted form is simply incorrect.
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Reply #21 - Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:45am
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:26am:
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:17am:
I don't have any evidence, other than your being perhaps the greatest champion for Muhammadanism, in this forum.


Right, so your opinion is formed based on no evidence.  I see.  I have never defended extremism by the way, ..........


First of all, if you are referring to Muslims that are engaged in the Islamic conquest of the world as being extreme, that is patently false. Those are true fundamental followers of Muhammad, doing as Muhammad did, and commanded his followers to do.
brotherpete.com/jihad_conquest_terrorism.htm

Though no shortage of Muslims are content to leave the heavy lifting of Jihad to their brethren, not having the stomach for it. Muhammad had an answer for those hypocrites too:

Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #216 fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.

CNS reports: "Sunni Muslim terrorists committed “about 70 percent” of the 12,533 terrorist murders in the world last year, according to a report by the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC)."
That's for the year 2011, and that percentage doesn't even include Shiite Muslim terrorist murders. Thus it should be obvious to all non-Muslims, that the world would be largely at peace today, if the followers of Muhammad had not been commanded to "fight and slay" non-Muslims in the "cause" of "Allah".

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:17am:
........ and you search through my entire history if you like.

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:17am:
And I didn't notice a denial.


posted yesterday that I am an agnostic.  Not exactly a denial, but enough to know I'm not a Muslim.


Thank you for sparing me having to wonder about it any more. Not that it much matters since you are under the influence of Satan as well. And while you may not believe in Satan, I've every confidence he believes in you, my friend.

Stratos wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:26am:
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:17am:
But then since for a Muslim to lie about being a Muslim, and denying it, is of course the most universally accepted form of taqiyyah


Have a look at the Koran passages that the concept of taqiyya is derived from and you will see a very different picture.  It is about hiding your faith to save your skin, and your claim that it is the most universally accepted form is simply incorrect.


Again demonstrating that you are just as disconnected from reality as Muhammad's followers are.
Like when Muhammad's dissimulators pretend that Psalms 84 is a reference to God's people wandering across 1200 kilometers of harsh barren desert - over a thousand years before a caravan route was established along the Red Sea and a couple thousand years before Mecca was established - to march around the Quraish pagan's black stone idol a few times, and then wander the 1200 kilometers back home.

The liars for Islam are so overt, that no matter how many times the location pin "in Zion" is edited back into the Psalms 84 passage that they lie about, they edit the truth right back out and continue pretending it is about Mecca!
This particular lie isn't some random guys, but comes directly from the buffoonery of Islam's Greek sophist styled entertainers and lying antichrists like Ahmed Deedat and Yusuf Estes.

I offered the link to you by way of explanation, as to the free-for-all of lying in the way of "Allah", Muhammadans are actually engaged in:
falseprophetmuhammad.com/global_war_against_truth.htm#taqiyyah
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Reply #22 - Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:52am
 
Do you always try to change the subject when you are wrong?  Because unless you can prove hats are a slippery slope to jihad you still are.

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:45am:
Again demonstrating that you are just as disconnected from reality as Muhammad's followers are.
Like when they pretend that Psalms 84 is a reference to God's people wandering across 1200 kilometers of harsh barren desert - over a thousand years before a caravan route was established along the Red Sea and a couple thousand years before Mecca was established - to march around the Quraish pagan's black stone idol a few times, and then wander the 1200 kilometers back home.
The liars for Islam are so overt, that no matter how many times the location pin "in Zion" is edited back into the passage that they lie about, they edit the truth right back out. This is rooted in the buffoonery of Greek sophist styled entertainers like Ahmed Deedat and Yusuf Ali.
I offered the link to you by way of explanation as to the free-for-all of lying Muhammadans are engaged in:


How the hell is this relevant?  Taqiyya is not in any way what you are describing, look up the verses it comes from!  Or maybe you are being intentionally deceiving again, trying to change the subject away from your incorrect conclusions?
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Reply #23 - Jan 3rd, 2014 at 1:08am
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:52am:
Do you always try to change the subject when you are wrong?  Because unless you can prove hats are a slippery slope to jihad you still are.


Repeating your false premise, only further confirms that your reading and comprehension skills are considerably compromised.
Your false premise is how you demonstrated your critical thinking skills to be inadequate, through your abject failure to understand a simple post. Why don't you try reading the post again, and honestly try to understand the point that it is actually making?
ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1388621936/11#11

While you're at it, why don't you visit my prior post that you snatched that little piece of, and instead of running away from the content, actually try a paragraph by paragraph exegesis of it? Which was, of course, where the point was made and supported initially.
ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1388621936/9#9

Stratos wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:52am:
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 12:45am:
Again demonstrating that you are just as disconnected from reality as Muhammad's followers are.
Like when they pretend that Psalms 84 is a reference to God's people wandering across 1200 kilometers of harsh barren desert - over a thousand years before a caravan route was established along the Red Sea and a couple thousand years before Mecca was established - to march around the Quraish pagan's black stone idol a few times, and then wander the 1200 kilometers back home.
The liars for Islam are so overt, that no matter how many times the location pin "in Zion" is edited back into the passage that they lie about, they edit the truth right back out. This is rooted in the buffoonery of Greek sophist styled entertainers like Ahmed Deedat and Yusuf Ali.
I offered the link to you by way of explanation as to the free-for-all of lying Muhammadans are engaged in:


How the hell is this relevant?  Taqiyya is not in any way what you are describing, look up the verses it comes from!  Or maybe you are being intentionally deceiving again, trying to change the subject away from your incorrect conclusions?


I don't need to insist on the Arabic term "taqiyyah", since the terms "dissimulation" and "lying" are just as descriptive of the REALITY, and thus just as acceptable to me.
falseprophetmuhammad.com/global_war_against_truth.htm#taqiyyah
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Reply #24 - Jan 3rd, 2014 at 1:17am
 
Removed post so it wouldn't distract.
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Reply #25 - Jan 3rd, 2014 at 1:33am
 
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 1:08am:
Repeating your false premise, only further confirms that your reading and comprehension skills are considerably compromised.


You made an unsubstantiated claim, I questioned it, then you said

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 2nd, 2014 at 11:35pm:
You aren't getting it because your capacity for critical thought and absence of a love of truth, would seem as compromised as Muhammad's follower's generally is, which leads me increasingly to conclude that you are a follower of Muhammad engaged deep in Islamic taqiyyah/dissimulation or at a minimum as deluded by Muhammadanism as they are.


So back to my original point, what is your problem with head coverings, seeing as an undercover agent in a mosque decided that was damning evidence for some reason, and you felt so outraged about it that you posted it on an internet forum in bold no less like it was some kind of revelation..

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 1:08am:
I don't need to insist on the Arabic term "taqiyyah", since the terms "dissimulation" and "lying" are just as descriptive of the REALITY, and thus just as acceptable to me.


so now you are ignoring the Koran, making another of your arguments hypocritical.  Are you now arguing that people are lying and deceiving regardless of what the Koran states?  Because it definitely does not state that taqiyya is how you are describing it, not even close.

I wonder why you are so willing to use the Koran as damning evidence when it suits you, and ignore it when it suits you too.

Oh that's right, it's because your views are blatantly bigoted towards Muslims.

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Reply #26 - Jan 3rd, 2014 at 1:51am
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 1:33am:
Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 1:08am:
Repeating your false premise, only further confirms that your reading and comprehension skills are considerably compromised.


You made an unsubstantiated claim, I questioned it.........


No, you created a claim, and assigned it to me:

Stratos wrote on Jan 2nd, 2014 at 11:56pm:
OK, so lets think critically.  Lets look at the evidence that wearing hats leads to Jihad, which is what you are currently claiming.


Now this is very important for you, since it could help you gain some insight into your dysfunction and self-deception, and perhaps begin to find the road to recovery.

Please copy and paste where I was "currently claiming", or made the claim at any time, "that wearing hats leads to Jihad".
Please also include a link to the post in which I made that claim.
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Reply #27 - Jan 3rd, 2014 at 2:03am
 
You said in reference to people wearing head covering, (don't know how to link posts, so I'll do the whole thing)

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 2nd, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Stratos wrote on Jan 2nd, 2014 at 10:52pm:
Whats wrong with women wearing head coverings?


The point wasn't about whether women should wear head coverings or not, but that it took the Saudi Imam - the true follower of Muhammad - to spank the western peacenick "hypocrite" mosque attendees into submission.
Just as the same guys built mosques and Islamic centers all around the world, as planning centers for the imperialistic conquest of Islamic Jihad.
falseprophetmuhammad.com/global_war_against_truth.htm#sharia_in_america


Linking an increase is head coverings to Islamic Jihad through the people who are behind the increase.  If an increase of hat devotees is the best evidence, then that is pretty shonky indeed

Oh, you still haven't said what your problem with head coverings is by the way.

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Reply #28 - Jan 3rd, 2014 at 2:09am
 
Stratos wrote on Jan 3rd, 2014 at 2:03am:
You said in reference to people wearing head covering, (don't know how to link posts, so I'll do the whole thing)

Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 2nd, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Stratos wrote on Jan 2nd, 2014 at 10:52pm:
Whats wrong with women wearing head coverings?


The point wasn't about whether women should wear head coverings or not, but that it took the Saudi Imam - the true follower of Muhammad - to spank the western peacenick "hypocrite" mosque attendees into submission.
Just as the same guys built mosques and Islamic centers all around the world, as planning centers for the imperialistic conquest of Islamic Jihad.
falseprophetmuhammad.com/global_war_against_truth.htm#sharia_in_america


Linking an increase is head coverings to Islamic Jihad through the people who are behind the increase.  If an increase of hat devotees is the best evidence, then that is pretty shonky indeed

Oh, you still haven't said what your problem with head coverings is by the way.


Try it again. Now this is very important for you, since it could help you gain some insight into your dysfunction and self-deception, and perhaps begin to find the road to recovery.

Please copy and paste where I was "
currently claiming
", or made the
claim
at any time,
"that wearing hats leads to Jihad"
.
Please also include a link to the post in which I made that claim.

You see, what you posted in reply only further confirmed your incapacity for critical thought, rather than providing a substantive response to my request. Where did I make the claim that you falsely attributed to me?
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Reply #29 - Jan 3rd, 2014 at 5:26am
 
Hilarious. 

In consecutive sentences you say that the head covering wearing is linked to Saudi Imana, and then say that "Just as the same guys built mosques and Islamic centers all around the world, as planning centers for the imperialistic conquest of Islamic Jihad."  and somehow you can't see the link between the two?

Also when I questioned the link between the two in my original post, you disagreed with me,

Quote:
You aren't getting it because your capacity for critical thought and absence of a love of truth, would seem as compromised as Muhammad's follower's generally is, which leads me increasingly to conclude that you are a follower of Muhammad engaged deep in Islamic taqiyyah/dissimulation or at a minimum as deluded by Muhammadanism as they are.


Also, how about you address the other questions at hand you are ignoring:

What is wrong with headscarves?
Why is your definition about taqiyya incorrect as it appears in the Koran?


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