Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2014 at 8:53am:

It's not. It's a main sequence star that will still sustain life on earth for hundreds of millions of years unless we do something really stupid.

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If we keep burning fossil fuels as fast as the deniers with shares in Big Oil want, there is a chance that we would find out in our lifetime rather than hundreds of millions of years hence.

It's not what we know that we should fear. It's what we don't know. We don't yet know what effect warming the permafrost in the Arctic to melting point will have. We don't know how much methane will be released from that permafrost if it is warmed enough to allow that methane to escape. We don't yet know how the methane clathrates in our oceans will react to being warmed. We don't know how much methane there is trapped in the environment. We do not know for sure if and whether there's a tipping point with environmental methane that would rapidly escalate out of control if pushed too far. We don't know a lot of things about our planet.

But here is what we do know. Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide. We have no control over how quickly it is released from natural sources. And when it starts being released it will add to global warming.

The worst-case scenarios associated with environmental methane are unlikely but they are not impossible. I would rather not find out when it's too late.

i actually accept the science as it makes sense. the storage of fossil fuels occured over millions of years and is endothermic.

to burn them all in 2 centuries is hugely exothermic.

i just disagree with the response.
lets be pragmatic.  people arent going to turn off their air cons or stop driving their fat lazy kids 3 km to school.

we need to get behind local action (not tonys rediculous "direct action' which will create another groups of government tit-suckers).

and, we need to prepare by storing water, gm heat resistant crops, cyclone proof dwellings all the way to sydney, reduce population (geez, stopping the boats and the baby bonus may actually make sense)

i dont think a democratic government can do much that is effective.  china would have more hope of a centralised solution. its going to be unpopular to tell people they cant have air con and drive their cars on meaningless trips  no votes in it, so neither side will get serious about it

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2014 at 8:47am:

And about that pathetic 4 degrees locked in catastrophic its worse than we thought BS

They take away the cooler models that are closer to what reality of mother nature have shown and what they do is make the models look even worse. Pure stupidity of them to ewant to do that, but hey, they are idiots activists after all.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2014 at 10:43am:


The CFC producing companies are a lot smaller and a lot less powerful than fossil fuel companies.

No countries economy relied on CFC exports as far as I know.

But, you are right, it gives hope that science can influence decision making for the better.

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2014 at 11:02am:

Fortunately the fetish of these large, thirsty vehicles is limited by the fuel supply.

Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2014 at 10:56am:

Ah but, you moron, they are following the path of a ship that 100 years ago, did not get stuck in the same place, you moron. Thats why it is news you moron, because you, you moron, asked.

skippy. wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2014 at 8:53am:


This is the problem with Global Warming Disciples, they can't see sense if you slapped them in the face with it...

All of the shorter term predictions have all been 100% wrong so now they're trying to make predictions 100 years out 

As an avid watcher of weekly temperatures and weather , and many people are, they can't even get temperatures and weather right a few days ahead... nor predict with any accuracy of climate within the year...

They just don't know, and that includes the shame climate gods ICPP... they are nothing but political idiots who get told what to preach