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Dec 31^st, 2013 at 8:06am

How come "the best democracies in the world" can afford to have so many government spy cameras and so many imprisoned citizens?

Every move you make - cameras are watching you in UK

Per capita there are more surveillance cameras in the UK than any other country in the world - more than a million according to one recent estimate.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/334853.stm

America is the country with the highest incarceration rate in the world (Prisoners per 100.000 citizens)
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USA has 2,193,798 which is almost one million more than China

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn2page1.stm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate

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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: Statistics hidden by mainstream media Reply #1 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 8:42am The government is buttering us up for more intrusive "security" camera's. Every day there is a story about a "king hit" victim.
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Re: Statistics hidden by mainstream media
Reply #2 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:10am

would you be game to break the LAW in CHina???????.. Roll Eyes

if you pray in China you are breaking some LAW... so would you??? pray!

America.. you do actually have to commit a crime to go to jail..
shooting and killing someone is not necessarily a crime over there. Roll Eyes

.. as guns are like owning a pair of shoes everyones right.

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10300 Gender:	Re: Statistics hidden by mainstream media Reply #3 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:20am Athos, how about we look at crime in China and the death penalty there. Quite large don't you think? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_China Notice there's no free press in China to report the large death count.
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Reply #4 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:55am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:20am:

Athos, how about we look at crime in China and the death penalty there. Quite large don't you think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_China

Notice there's no free press in China to report the large death count.

Only facts, only facts and numbers count mate.
Chine has five times larger population than US and one million less imprisoned citizens.

Those who who has brain unwashed by CNN, Fox, Big Mac and other crap can conclude for themselves.

Question:
Where is uncorrupted free press in US?

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Reply #5 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:17am

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:55am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:20am:

Athos, how about we look at crime in China and the death penalty there. Quite large don't you think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_China

Notice there's no free press in China to report the large death count.

Only facts, only facts and numbers count mate.
Chine has five times larger population than US and one million less imprisoned citizens.

Those who who has brain unwashed by CNN, Fox, Big Mac and other crap can conclude for themselves.

Question:
Where is uncorrupted free press in US?

China has 4 TIMES Americas population! China is America plus a billion i remind my 8yo nephew!!!!! Cheesy

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Reply #6 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:20am

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:55am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:20am:

Athos, how about we look at crime in China and the death penalty there. Quite large don't you think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_China

Notice there's no free press in China to report the large death count.

Only facts, only facts and numbers count mate.
Chine has five times larger population than US and one million less imprisoned citizens.

Those who who has brain unwashed by CNN, Fox, Big Mac and other crap can conclude for themselves.

Question:
Where is uncorrupted free press in US?

We will never truly know the amount executed or jailed in China because it has no free press. We know how many are executed in the U.S. and how many are jailed because it has exactly the opposite - a free press!

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Reply #7 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:47am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:20am:

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:55am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:20am:

Athos, how about we look at crime in China and the death penalty there. Quite large don't you think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_China

Notice there's no free press in China to report the large death count.

Only facts, only facts and numbers count mate.
Chine has five times larger population than US and one million less imprisoned citizens.

Those who who has brain unwashed by CNN, Fox, Big Mac and other crap can conclude for themselves.

Question:
Where is uncorrupted free press in US?

We will never truly know the amount executed or jailed in China because it has no free press. We know how many are executed in the U.S. and how many are jailed because it has exactly the opposite - a free press!

The same we will never truly know the amount executed or jailed in US.
Oh Yes we can speculate as much as we want. The official statistic is quite clear, whether you like it or not.

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Reply #8 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 11:08am

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:47am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:20am:

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:55am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:20am:

Athos, how about we look at crime in China and the death penalty there. Quite large don't you think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_China

Notice there's no free press in China to report the large death count.

Only facts, only facts and numbers count mate.
Chine has five times larger population than US and one million less imprisoned citizens.

Those who who has brain unwashed by CNN, Fox, Big Mac and other crap can conclude for themselves.

Question:
Where is uncorrupted free press in US?

We will never truly know the amount executed or jailed in China because it has no free press. We know how many are executed in the U.S. and how many are jailed because it has exactly the opposite - a free press!

The same we will never truly know the amount executed or jailed in US.
Oh Yes we can speculate as much as we want. The official statistic is quite clear, whether you like it or not.

If there was a discrepancy between government figures and actual figures, academics and journalists would be all over it: a hallmark of an open society. In fact, you'll often hear academics and journalists criticizing the large number of inmates in American jails. Do Chinese academics and journalists criticise their state officials over their death count and jail numbers? Please post me a link to a Chinese journalist or academic that does.

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Reply #9 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 12:26pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:47am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:20am:

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:55am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:20am:

Athos, how about we look at crime in China and the death penalty there. Quite large don't you think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_China

Notice there's no free press in China to report the large death count.

Only facts, only facts and numbers count mate.
Chine has five times larger population than US and one million less imprisoned citizens.

Those who who has brain unwashed by CNN, Fox, Big Mac and other crap can conclude for themselves.

Question:
Where is uncorrupted free press in US?

We will never truly know the amount executed or jailed in China because it has no free press. We know how many are executed in the U.S. and how many are jailed because it has exactly the opposite - a free press!

The same we will never truly know the amount executed or jailed in US.
Oh Yes we can speculate as much as we want. The official statistic is quite clear, whether you like it or not.

If there was a discrepancy between government figures and actual figures, academics and journalists would be all over it: a hallmark of an open society. In fact, you'll often hear academics and journalists criticizing the large number of inmates in American jails. Do Chinese academics and journalists criticise their state officials over their death count and jail numbers? Please post me a link to a Chinese journalist or academic that does.

Sorry statistics, numbers and mathematics could be very cruel.

REGARDLESS, PLEASE STOP CREATING SELF CONSOLATION?.

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It is heartbreaking to watch.

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Reply #10 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 12:31pm

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 12:26pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:47am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:20am:

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:55am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:20am:

Athos, how about we look at crime in China and the death penalty there. Quite large don't you think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_China

Notice there's no free press in China to report the large death count.

Only facts, only facts and numbers count mate.
Chine has five times larger population than US and one million less imprisoned citizens.

Those who who has brain unwashed by CNN, Fox, Big Mac and other crap can conclude for themselves.

Question:
Where is uncorrupted free press in US?

We will never truly know the amount executed or jailed in China because it has no free press. We know how many are executed in the U.S. and how many are jailed because it has exactly the opposite - a free press!

The same we will never truly know the amount executed or jailed in US.
Oh Yes we can speculate as much as we want. The official statistic is quite clear, whether you like it or not.

If there was a discrepancy between government figures and actual figures, academics and journalists would be all over it: a hallmark of an open society. In fact, you'll often hear academics and journalists criticizing the large number of inmates in American jails. Do Chinese academics and journalists criticise their state officials over their death count and jail numbers? Please post me a link to a Chinese journalist or academic that does.

CREATING SELF CONSOLATION?.

I'll take that as you cannot find any articles, probably because there are none.

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Reply #11 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 1:07pm

Human rights of usa lol.. chinas rise has people petrified alright when people turn a blind eye to americas violent nature to somehow indict the chinese as merciless in comparison!

War, morning mist will jokingly never admit too, is conducted in the economic sphere! To base an economy on weaponry debases all morality it may seek to attach to itself!!

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Reply #12 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 1:28pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 12:31pm:

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 12:26pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:47am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:20am:

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:55am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:20am:

Athos, how about we look at crime in China and the death penalty there. Quite large don't you think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_China

Notice there's no free press in China to report the large death count.

Only facts, only facts and numbers count mate.
Chine has five times larger population than US and one million less imprisoned citizens.

Those who who has brain unwashed by CNN, Fox, Big Mac and other crap can conclude for themselves.

Question:
Where is uncorrupted free press in US?

We will never truly know the amount executed or jailed in China because it has no free press. We know how many are executed in the U.S. and how many are jailed because it has exactly the opposite - a free press!

The same we will never truly know the amount executed or jailed in US.
Oh Yes we can speculate as much as we want. The official statistic is quite clear, whether you like it or not.

If there was a discrepancy between government figures and actual figures, academics and journalists would be all over it: a hallmark of an open society. In fact, you'll often hear academics and journalists criticizing the large number of inmates in American jails. Do Chinese academics and journalists criticise their state officials over their death count and jail numbers? Please post me a link to a Chinese journalist or academic that does.

CREATING SELF CONSOLATION?.

I'll take that as you cannot find any articles, probably because there are none.

When they are confronted with facts and numbers some people do not have a choice but to become irrational.

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Reply #13 - Dec 31^st, 2013 at 1:47pm

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 1:28pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 12:31pm:

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 12:26pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 11:08am:

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:47am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:20am:

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:55am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:20am:

Athos, how about we look at crime in China and the death penalty there. Quite large don't you think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_China

Notice there's no free press in China to report the large death count.

Only facts, only facts and numbers count mate.
Chine has five times larger population than US and one million less imprisoned citizens.

Those who who has brain unwashed by CNN, Fox, Big Mac and other crap can conclude for themselves.

Question:
Where is uncorrupted free press in US?

We will never truly know the amount executed or jailed in China because it has no free press. We know how many are executed in the U.S. and how many are jailed because it has exactly the opposite - a free press!

The same we will never truly know the amount executed or jailed in US.
Oh Yes we can speculate as much as we want. The official statistic is quite clear, whether you like it or not.

If there was a discrepancy between government figures and actual figures, academics and journalists would be all over it: a hallmark of an open society. In fact, you'll often hear academics and journalists criticizing the large number of inmates in American jails. Do Chinese academics and journalists criticise their state officials over their death count and jail numbers? Please post me a link to a Chinese journalist or academic that does.

CREATING SELF CONSOLATION?.

I'll take that as you cannot find any articles, probably because there are none.

When they are confronted with facts and numbers some people do not have a choice but to become irrational.

What am I being irrational about?

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Re: Statistics hidden by mainstream media
Reply #14 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:38am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 10:20am:

athos wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:55am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2013 at 9:20am:

Athos, how about we look at crime in China and the death penalty there. Quite large don't you think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_China

Notice there's no free press in China to report the large death count.

Only facts, only facts and numbers count mate.
Chine has five times larger population than US and one million less imprisoned citizens.

Those who who has brain unwashed by CNN, Fox, Big Mac and other crap can conclude for themselves.

Question:
Where is uncorrupted free press in US?

We will never truly know the amount executed or jailed in China because it has no free press. We know how many are executed in the U.S. and how many are jailed because it has exactly the opposite - a free press!

Athos, you will never penetrate MM's brainwashed mind. The world is full of communists and they are all hiding under his/her bed. He's decided that "COMMUNIST" China's rate of imprisonment is greater and there is no way the facts are ever going to change that in his/her brainwashed mind.

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